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been looking around ..haven't seen anything new. If this camera has the somewhat faster focusing of the X10 it could possibly be an nice improvement over the HS20. Hopefully they will keep the PF under control as they did with the HS20.. Not too crazy about the fringing I see in some of the X10 shots though. Let's not have a pf S100fs repeat!!

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Barry Fitzgerald said:
Must be out of the loop what is the X-S1!
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It's what some of Fuji's people call the HS30EXR but it appears to be somewhat larger (I could be wrong about this), has what appears to be a better lens (a more modest 26x 24-624mm focal length range) and it will be weather sealed. It will use the same sensor as the X10 so it's the size of the S100fs's sensor, meaning it will be slightly larger than the S200EXR's sensor, and with luck, its 24mm wide end will be a true 24mm, not the 22mm of the HS20EXR. A spec's list says that it has a 1440k pixel EVF but that should almost certainly be 1440dots, or 480k pixels, a nice improvement over the HS20's 200k dot EVF. You can see that the lens appears larger than the one on the HS10/HS20 and it has a filter size of 62mm vs 58mm for the HS10/HS20.





http://www.cameragearguide.com/5116/yesterday-fujifilm-showed-off-a-new-xs-1-superzoom-today-we-have-a-better-look/






http://www.dpreview.com/news/1110/11100510fujifilm.asp
 














well lets hope its as good as we will all want it to be. Cheers Paul Uk

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Billx08 said:
Barry Fitzgerald said:
Must be out of the loop what is the X-S1!
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It's what some of Fuji's people call the HS30EXR but it appears to be somewhat larger (I could be wrong about this), has what appears to be a better lens (a more modest 26x 24-624mm focal length range) and it will be weather sealed. It will use the same sensor as the X10 so it's the size of the S100fs's sensor, meaning it will be slightly larger than the S200EXR's sensor, and with luck, its 24mm wide end will be a true 24mm, not the 22mm of the HS20EXR. A spec's list says that it has a 1440k pixel EVF but that should almost certainly be 1440dots, or 480k pixels, a nice improvement over the HS20's 200k dot EVF. You can see that the lens appears larger than the one on the HS10/HS20 and it has a filter size of 62mm vs 58mm for the HS10/HS20.
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Thanks

I guess it looks ok (bit of a Nikon rip off DSLR body wise) but I'm a little bored of the big zoom models lately. It will likely be better than the HS20 but I'd much prefer a bigger sensor and a more sensible range say 24-200mm odd

Not sure what the plans for an interchangeable lens model are guess we'll find out soon enough. Market is getting crowded though have to say
 
 
This would fall under the same category as the Canon SX40HS, Panasonic FZ150 and Sony HX100V. The Canon and Sony have the advantage of 200mm more of reach. The Canon leads in low light capability but the Panasonic is very close. The Panasonic leads in controls and speed and enables RAW, which is why I chose it, for when I don't want to haul around a bigger camera and zoom lens.

When I first bought the FZ150, my only other option (in my camera stable) was a 7D with 100-400is...five times the weight. The FZ150 doesn't do a bad job if you have enough light and enough patience (it's buffer clearing speeds are way slower than the 7D.)

Since then I bought a GH2 and coupled it with a 100-300 OIS lens. It falls between the two in weight, but is closer to the FZ150, than the Canon rig. It also has more resolution and much more speed...5-10 times faster than the FZ150 clearing the buffer.

The X-S1 interests me, as a replacement for the FZ150...especially if it runs at X10 speeds which are considerably better than FZ150 speeds. Would also love the added iso sensitivity. However, now that I have the GH2, there might not be much size and weight benefit. With the bigger sensor the X-S1 will be the largest and heaviest in this lineup...and possibly the most expensive.

An interchangeable lens version is very intriguing though...especially if Fuji fitted it with lenses that rivaled the speed of the X10's lens...short fast zooms...wide open 50mm primes and 90mm macros.
 
I also went from the s100fs to a G1 with 100-300mm lens. I doubt I will ever go back to a bridge camera but would instead consider an upgraded body some day.
 
Member said:
Barry Fitzgerald wrote:

It will likely be better than the HS20 but I'd much prefer a bigger sensor and a more sensible range say 24-200mm odd
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I guess they have to appeal to the 'look at this pigeon / dove / hawk / crow I photoe'd from 1/4 mile' crowd. I liked having a 'superzoom' back in the day when 12x was 'super' but I think it would make for a much more versatile camera nowadays if as you say they would use a larger sensor and a smaller zoom range. While a 2/3" sensor is large compared to some, how large would work with a shorter zoom such as you suggest?

In my superzoom days (which ended about a year ago) I lost a whole lot more shots to high ISO noise and/or low shutter speeds due to low light situations, than I ever lost because I didn't have a zillion X zoom at my disposal. Personally I think of these massively long zooms as more of a party trick than anything really necessary for most users, but the big number on the sticker (along with how many megapixels) sells cameras I guess.

It does look like an interesting camera even so, and in its target market could be a standout.
 
They do have a narrower market than a camera with a faster lens, but if you look at the F-stop numbers F2.8-5.6, they are pretty competitive with the lower end of the P&S market (the Canon 100HS is F2.8-5.9 for example.) The 14x 230HS is even slower at F3.1 to F5.9. In my experience, however, the longer zoom also comes at the expense of slower focus...similar to how macros focus a little slower.

If you like to take pictures of birds and other critters, or of baseball players from the stands, there is no better value. These cameras are great for that.
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I guess they have to appeal to the 'look at this pigeon / dove / hawk / crow I photoe'd from 1/4 mile' crowd. I liked having a 'superzoom' back in the day when 12x was 'super' but I think it would make for a much more versatile camera nowadays if as you say they would use a larger sensor and a smaller zoom range. While a 2/3" sensor is large compared to some, how large would work with a shorter zoom such as you suggest?

In my superzoom days (which ended about a year ago) I lost a whole lot more shots to high ISO noise and/or low shutter speeds due to low light situations, than I ever lost because I didn't have a zillion X zoom at my disposal. Personally I think of these massively long zooms as more of a party trick than anything really necessary for most users, but the big number on the sticker (along with how many megapixels) sells cameras I guess.
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Midwest said:
Midwest said:
Barry Fitzgerald wrote:

It will likely be better than the HS20 but I'd much prefer a bigger sensor and a more sensible range say 24-200mm odd
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I guess they have to appeal to the 'look at this pigeon / dove / hawk / crow I photoe'd from 1/4 mile' crowd
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Midwest said:
Personally I think of these massively long zooms as more of a party trick than anything really necessary for most users, but the big number on the sticker (along with how many megapixels) sells cameras I guess.
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624mm is perfect. It allows you to capture things that 200mm cant.

Birds, animals and insects would normally be frightened away or out of reach using 200mm. The moon also provides enough detail to become impressive.
 
and with luck, its 24mm wide end will be a true 24mm, not the 22mm of the HS20EXR.

Just curious, Bill: what would be the advantage of a "true" 24mm over the 22mm of the HS20?

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