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Hello,

Havent read manual yet, I know I can send to fuji for complimentary cleanning or clean it myself,

Question 1, Does S2 USA come with everthing you need, minus sensor swabs to clean CCD ?

Question 2, How diificult is to clean your self versus sending it in?

Thanks in advance for replies

Thanks ronell
 
follow the directions to the letter

use the AC adapter to power the camera (remove the lithiums or they will lose charge) ...do not attempt CCD cleaning on batteries as bad things can happen
I generally try blowing off the dust with a bulb blower first

purchase the Sensor Swabs & solution ...they are pricey, but your CCD is worth it

the first time is a little anxiety provoking, but the procedure is simple and takes no more than 10 minutes
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Fuji forum member since 5/2001
http://www.pbase.com/artichoke
 
I don't recommend taking any liquids to it as it appears they do not protect the CCD

whatsoever in these cameras. Actually kind of shocking as i come from using a lot of Astronomy grade CCD Cameras which are all sealed in a gas chamber.

Anyway, I had to clean mine today since somehow some dirt of some sort got on the chip.

The manual says do not under any circumstances touch the CCD chip or you risk permanent damage.

I followed the cleaning procedure in the manual, but instead of blowing air in, I sucked air out with a vacuum. Highly effective I might say, totally cleaned it up and I swear not only is the dust gone, but my images look a lot better and sharper now. Not sure if the dirt might have been messing with the auto focus some how.

Hope that helps!
Mark.
ronelljones said:
Hello,
Havent read manual yet, I know I can send to fuji for complimentary
cleanning or clean it myself,

Question 1, Does S2 USA come with everthing you need, minus sensor
swabs to clean CCD ?

Question 2, How diificult is to clean your self versus sending it in?

Thanks in advance for replies

Thanks ronell
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Thanks!
Mark
 
A vacuum, you say? Any special type, brand, etc.? Did you use any special attachments?

I've actually thought of doing the very same thing, but instead, I had it sent in to Fuji for cleaning, took 1 month to get it back, Fuji said it was marked as a return, Competitive Cameras told me it was marked as Clean CCD. So now, I want to clean it myself, I have not purchased the swabs or the liquid. I don't like the idea of touching the ccd.

carlos
 
Vacumm method seems interesting,,, more info please
Thanks
Carlos De La Rosa said:
A vacuum, you say? Any special type, brand, etc.? Did you use any
special attachments?

I've actually thought of doing the very same thing, but instead, I
had it sent in to Fuji for cleaning, took 1 month to get it back,
Fuji said it was marked as a return, Competitive Cameras told me it
was marked as Clean CCD. So now, I want to clean it myself, I have
not purchased the swabs or the liquid. I don't like the idea of
touching the ccd.

carlos
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I think one of the little computer vacuum gizmos would do the job?

Rgds

Nick
 
Hi

Just thought......about the amount of air displacement. When you use a blower blush, you just move the amount of air in the blower bulb and this air is from the room you were in when you last released the bulb (clean?)

When you use 'any' vacuum you are sucking out dust but by definition a vacuum has to be filled... what with? Air from the room you are in! how clrean is this 'air' and how much air has been sucked into the len/ccd chamber? Depending on the ferocity of the vacumm and how long it is on... this could be ten's of cubic litres of 'dirty' air?

not convinced.... yet.

more info?
Mark Abraham said:
Anyway, I had to clean mine today since somehow some dirt of some
sort got on the chip.

The manual says do not under any circumstances touch the CCD chip
or you risk permanent damage.

I followed the cleaning procedure in the manual, but instead of
blowing air in, I sucked air out with a vacuum. Highly effective I
might say, totally cleaned it up and I swear not only is the dust
gone, but my images look a lot better and sharper now. Not sure if
the dirt might have been messing with the auto focus some how.

Hope that helps!
Mark.
ronelljones said:
Hello,
Havent read manual yet, I know I can send to fuji for complimentary
cleanning or clean it myself,

Question 1, Does S2 USA come with everthing you need, minus sensor
swabs to clean CCD ?

Question 2, How diificult is to clean your self versus sending it in?

Thanks in advance for replies

Thanks ronell
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--
Thanks!
Mark
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--
regards to all

Sooty

F5, F80, Oly C3oooZ
 
Hi,

Sounds a good idea, but I hope the CCD is sured well, don't want the CCD going down the Vac!!!
Alan Brown said:
Just thought......about the amount of air displacement. When you
use a blower blush, you just move the amount of air in the blower
bulb and this air is from the room you were in when you last
released the bulb (clean?)

When you use 'any' vacuum you are sucking out dust but by
definition a vacuum has to be filled... what with? Air from the
room you are in! how clrean is this 'air' and how much air has been
sucked into the len/ccd chamber? Depending on the ferocity of the
vacumm and how long it is on... this could be ten's of cubic litres
of 'dirty' air?

not convinced.... yet.

more info?
Mark Abraham said:
Anyway, I had to clean mine today since somehow some dirt of some
sort got on the chip.

The manual says do not under any circumstances touch the CCD chip
or you risk permanent damage.

I followed the cleaning procedure in the manual, but instead of
blowing air in, I sucked air out with a vacuum. Highly effective I
might say, totally cleaned it up and I swear not only is the dust
gone, but my images look a lot better and sharper now. Not sure if
the dirt might have been messing with the auto focus some how.

Hope that helps!
Mark.
ronelljones said:
Hello,
Havent read manual yet, I know I can send to fuji for complimentary
cleanning or clean it myself,

Question 1, Does S2 USA come with everthing you need, minus sensor
swabs to clean CCD ?

Question 2, How diificult is to clean your self versus sending it in?

Thanks in advance for replies

Thanks ronell
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--
Thanks!
Mark
Click to expand...
--
regards to all

Sooty

F5, F80, Oly C3oooZ
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--
Alex
LWS photographic (UK)
 
Hi,

Do I get it you get the AC adapter with the S2 in the states ? And the EX converter, and Thom Hogan's book.. Boohooooo. So much more to pay here, and so much less to get... Whine whine...

I had mine cleaned by Fuji, simply because the dust was already there at the first shot, and when I mailed Fuji to ask what to do, they advised me to bring it in, since self-cleaning voids warranty, PLUS I have to buy an AC first only to be able to clean the CCD, and the swabs of course (expensive too).

But they use the same methods we are told to do, so I suppose... Go right ahead, if you feel comfortable with it. No bulbs with hairs please, you might blow one at or accidently strike the surface... Ouch! And no cans with compressed air. I nearly ruined a lens's coating once using the aircan I had at work (for cleaning pc equipment). Cheers!
Artichoke said:
follow the directions to the letter
use the AC adapter to power the camera (remove the lithiums or they
will lose charge) ...do not attempt CCD cleaning on batteries as
bad things can happen
I generally try blowing off the dust with a bulb blower first
purchase the Sensor Swabs & solution ...they are pricey, but your
CCD is worth it

the first time is a little anxiety provoking, but the procedure is
simple and takes no more than 10 minutes
--
pbase & dpreview supporter
Fuji forum member since 5/2001
http://www.pbase.com/artichoke
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ronelljones said:
Hello,
Havent read manual yet, I know I can send to fuji for complimentary
cleanning or clean it myself,

Question 1, Does S2 USA come with everthing you need, minus sensor
swabs to clean CCD ?

Question 2, How diificult is to clean your self versus sending it in?

Thanks in advance for replies

Thanks ronell
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--I've cleaned mine about 1/2 dozen times in four months using a blower brush. Seems to work ok.

JoeR
 
ronelljones said:
Hello,
Havent read manual yet, I know I can send to fuji for complimentary
cleanning or clean it myself,

Question 1, Does S2 USA come with everthing you need, minus sensor
swabs to clean CCD ?

Question 2, How diificult is to clean your self versus sending it in?

Thanks in advance for replies

Thanks ronell
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Try this :

http://www.dswebengine.com/brandnamesupply/default.asp?searchit=data%20vac
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Now that I have seen photography - I can shoot myself (Picasso)
 
Had my first ccd cleaning here at Fujifilm Austria 3 days ago, technician came, removed the lens, made the steps for mirror up/shutter open- and had a glance at the ccd (found a lot of dust)
  • only with the batteries in the camera - no ac adaptor!!!
he said, that this is save and when the batteries run out of power, no problem, take the ac adaptor, to bring the mirror down

after 15 min he came back with my S2 and told me that the sensor is clean now, made also a test pic (which was really clean); cleaned it with alcohol

Unfortunately at home at my test shot i had two dust spots again.

Today i recieved the speck grabber, from : http://www.kinetronics.com ; i will give it a try tomorrow.
Artichoke said:
follow the directions to the letter
use the AC adapter to power the camera (remove the lithiums or they
will lose charge) ...do not attempt CCD cleaning on batteries as
bad things can happen
I generally try blowing off the dust with a bulb blower first
purchase the Sensor Swabs & solution ...they are pricey, but your
CCD is worth it

the first time is a little anxiety provoking, but the procedure is
simple and takes no more than 10 minutes
--
pbase & dpreview supporter
Fuji forum member since 5/2001
http://www.pbase.com/artichoke
Click to expand...
 
Suredeath said:
Hi,

Do I get it you get the AC adapter with the S2 in the states ? And
the EX converter, and Thom Hogan's book.. Boohooooo. So much more
to pay here, and so much less to get... Whine whine...
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Hi Suredeath,

I think they do not get the AC adaptor with the S2 in the US. About cleaning, I have done it once (pretty scarry it was). From my experience, the first try I was too soft and did not get all the dust out. The second try got better, but not enough, and the third one, everything went away. Anyway, as Artichoke, I would recommend to try a blower first.

Best,
--
Dioni

You do not take a picture, you make it (Ansel Adams)
 
Hmmm. I read the instructions carefully. Then tried something different. I used Dust Off very gingerly so as to create gentle air flow of clean air. Be sure not to shake the bottle and hold perfectly vertical. This could be dangerous so practice on something other than your CCD!!!!!!! Yeah, and the CCD is perfectly clean, even at huge magnification of sky in Photoshop.
Martino T said:
ronelljones said:
Hello,
Havent read manual yet, I know I can send to fuji for complimentary
cleanning or clean it myself,

Question 1, Does S2 USA come with everthing you need, minus sensor
swabs to clean CCD ?

Question 2, How diificult is to clean your self versus sending it in?

Thanks in advance for replies

Thanks ronell
Click to expand...
Try this :

http://www.dswebengine.com/brandnamesupply/default.asp?searchit=data%20vac
--
Now that I have seen photography - I can shoot myself (Picasso)
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a few months back there were posts regarding using a vacuum to clean the CCD...this is not recommended

a syringe blower works well (hold the camera so the CCD is facing down) and for stubborn bits use the sensor swabs with the approved fluid
why risk a problem?
--
pbase & dpreview supporter
Fuji forum member since 5/2001
http://www.pbase.com/artichoke
 
Yhea, it would be a life changing event to see a $1000 CCD get sucked into the tube!!! ;-)

I thought of that and took care to make sure the force was not too great and that the opening was not big enought to suck it in.

The comment about air quality is fair, but I made sure that the exaust was covered. Whether you suck air in or push air onto it the air in the room would be the same unless your going to filter it.

I like the idea of pulling air away from it rather than blowing air onto it, which could force more dirt onto it.

I also used the vacume to clean up the dust on my lens too. The resulting picture I took afterwards was the cleanest I have seen from the camera.

Its all opinion and what your comfortable with.

l8r!
Mark
ajs2 said:
Alan Brown said:
Just thought......about the amount of air displacement. When you
use a blower blush, you just move the amount of air in the blower
bulb and this air is from the room you were in when you last
released the bulb (clean?)

When you use 'any' vacuum you are sucking out dust but by
definition a vacuum has to be filled... what with? Air from the
room you are in! how clrean is this 'air' and how much air has been
sucked into the len/ccd chamber? Depending on the ferocity of the
vacumm and how long it is on... this could be ten's of cubic litres
of 'dirty' air?

not convinced.... yet.

more info?
Mark Abraham said:
Anyway, I had to clean mine today since somehow some dirt of some
sort got on the chip.

The manual says do not under any circumstances touch the CCD chip
or you risk permanent damage.

I followed the cleaning procedure in the manual, but instead of
blowing air in, I sucked air out with a vacuum. Highly effective I
might say, totally cleaned it up and I swear not only is the dust
gone, but my images look a lot better and sharper now. Not sure if
the dirt might have been messing with the auto focus some how.

Hope that helps!
Mark.
ronelljones said:
Hello,
Havent read manual yet, I know I can send to fuji for complimentary
cleanning or clean it myself,

Question 1, Does S2 USA come with everthing you need, minus sensor
swabs to clean CCD ?

Question 2, How diificult is to clean your self versus sending it in?

Thanks in advance for replies

Thanks ronell
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--
Thanks!
Mark
Click to expand...
--
regards to all

Sooty

F5, F80, Oly C3oooZ
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--
Alex
LWS photographic (UK)
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Thanks!
Mark
 
I read that message, compelling argument! But I still don't like the idea of pushing air on to the chip. Definitely wouldn't use liquid.

Good discussion!

L8r!
Mark
Mark Abraham said:
I thought of that and took care to make sure the force was not too
great and that the opening was not big enought to suck it in.

The comment about air quality is fair, but I made sure that the
exaust was covered. Whether you suck air in or push air onto it
the air in the room would be the same unless your going to filter
it.

I like the idea of pulling air away from it rather than blowing air
onto it, which could force more dirt onto it.

I also used the vacume to clean up the dust on my lens too. The
resulting picture I took afterwards was the cleanest I have seen
from the camera.

Its all opinion and what your comfortable with.

l8r!
Mark
ajs2 said:
Alan Brown said:
Just thought......about the amount of air displacement. When you
use a blower blush, you just move the amount of air in the blower
bulb and this air is from the room you were in when you last
released the bulb (clean?)

When you use 'any' vacuum you are sucking out dust but by
definition a vacuum has to be filled... what with? Air from the
room you are in! how clrean is this 'air' and how much air has been
sucked into the len/ccd chamber? Depending on the ferocity of the
vacumm and how long it is on... this could be ten's of cubic litres
of 'dirty' air?

not convinced.... yet.

more info?
Mark Abraham said:
Anyway, I had to clean mine today since somehow some dirt of some
sort got on the chip.

The manual says do not under any circumstances touch the CCD chip
or you risk permanent damage.

I followed the cleaning procedure in the manual, but instead of
blowing air in, I sucked air out with a vacuum. Highly effective I
might say, totally cleaned it up and I swear not only is the dust
gone, but my images look a lot better and sharper now. Not sure if
the dirt might have been messing with the auto focus some how.

Hope that helps!
Mark.
ronelljones said:
Hello,
Havent read manual yet, I know I can send to fuji for complimentary
cleanning or clean it myself,

Question 1, Does S2 USA come with everthing you need, minus sensor
swabs to clean CCD ?

Question 2, How diificult is to clean your self versus sending it in?

Thanks in advance for replies

Thanks ronell
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--
Thanks!
Mark
Click to expand...
--
regards to all

Sooty

F5, F80, Oly C3oooZ
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--
Alex
LWS photographic (UK)
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Thanks!
Mark
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Thanks!
Mark
 
Mike Goebel said:
I just took my lens off and rinsed out the inside with cold running
water.
Seems to be ok.

Mike,
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Knockout idea, LOL I must try that one, will a little detergent work, I understand DAZ gives very good whites.

Regards

Nick
 
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