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I am about to find out. I walked out of the local camera store today with a 60/2.8 and 70-200/4 IS. I took them out to the Butterfly pavillion.

The Macro is sick sharp. Here are a couple from that one.

60mm 7.1 1/100" ISO 800 with 430EX2 flash



60mm 6.3 1/100" ISO 800 with 430EX2 flash



The 70-200 doesn't do macro as good and isn't as sharp at MFD, but still not bad. I got a lot of sharp portraits of my daughter so I am pretty sure its not a lens issue. Anyone else notice lower MFD quality with theirs? It is much better at 135 than 200 for me at MFD.

Anyhow here is a shot with the 70-200/4 IS
138mm 5.6 1/80" ISO 800 no flash

 
...not say a word to your wife and do your best to hide all evidence. You have to do your part, though, and not ever question anything she does; ever. If all goes well, she'll catch you, be on the verge of saying something, catch herself and then just move along saying to herself, "could be worse".
 
Nice lenses! I have the 60 and would love the 70-200 f4 IS. I think you should quickly take an outstanding photo with the new lens of their favourite subject (child, pet, waterfall etc.), and get it printed on canvas and break the news while handing over the canvas to hang on the wall. And say "I needed the new lenses to get photos like these!"

I think you should use a lower aperture on your 60mm macro shots, if you are using flash you should be able to hand-held.

A 500D close up filter on the 70-200 f4 IS can take some sick macro photos, I've seen some on this forum, if you want to consider that option. They were so good they even made me think about selling my 60mm to contribute to a 70-200 f4 IS with close up combo.
 
biggles267 said:
A 500D close up filter on the 70-200 f4 IS can take some sick macro photos, I've seen some on this forum, if you want to consider that option. They were so good they even made me think about selling my 60mm to contribute to a 70-200 f4 IS with close up combo.
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I love my 70-200 F4 IS. If you pair it with both 1.4x TC + Extension tube, it is a killer macro lens.

The best thing about this setup is the Working Distance I have without scaring the bugs away. 60mm f/2.8 macro is stunning, but very difficult to shoot bugs with short working distance of 60mm.
 
Well it went over without a hitch actually. You see the wife doesn't miss a spend and she is not going to miss a new white lens especially when it is the only one I now have. So not telling her wasn't going to fly
 
biggles267 said:
I think you should use a lower aperture on your 60mm macro shots, if you are using flash you should be able to hand-held.
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You are right there. I am a total noob at macro now and I don't really have a good feel for DOF at these close distances, so I need a steep learning curve for sure to get the whole subject in focus while still bluring the max posible beyond that. Up to now, my macro setup was the 55-250 with a cheap Quantaray +3 close up lens
 
007peter said:
I love my 70-200 F4 IS. If you pair it with both 1.4x TC + Extension tube, it is a killer macro lens.
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That is good to know. I plan on getting those items down the road anyhow at some point so I'll give it a shot then.
 
Wife advises you should only show one lens for now, and let the other make an appearance after a few months or so. ;)
 
The 70-200mm f4L IS is a great lens. I used to worry so much about sharpness shooting with the 15-85mm lens. Once I got my 70-200mm f4L IS, I found the answer to sharpness. Stopped down from f4, it gets better & better. Thanks to this forum which helped me to make the decision. Looking back I dont regret not buying the 70-300mm L f4-5.6 which was heavier for me.
 
If it's a 500mm, it may be better not to mention or ever show it. ;)

If it's a less expensive one, then you can see what happens. The first shot I took with my EF 85mm f/1.2L II was one of my angry wife. She immediately noticed how the front element looked bigger and different from that of my other primes.

But as she saw the photos over time, she felt fine about it.

I also figured that the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II would look similar enough to the 70-200mm f/4L IS that I replaced (both being long white lenses), but she noticed the difference there too.

Kaz
 
Nice images now the advice

show one have the other in your bag but let her carry it from time to time that way she knows the weight ...... down the track if she does happen to see the other lens but notices the camera bags overall weight has not increased perhaps you will get away with it...
 
So a little more on the MFD issues with the f4 IS. Last night I was taking test shots of a $20 bill and comparing the results to my 55-250. I was shooting on a tripod at close to the MFD of the L and I was getting very frustrated because the L was getting its rear kicked. No matter what I did the 55-250 was sharper, IS on IS off Live view or not. Then I ran through a MFA test with the L and settled in on -5. Then the tides were turned and the L was blowing the 55-250 away.

Normally I advocated returning a lens if it needs MFA, but I am getting consistent results with all subject distances and focal lengths at -5, so I am going to stick with it.

The weird thing here is that the live view images improved after I set in -5 MFA. I thought in contrast detect, live view, that MFA had no effect. Anyone else seen this behavior with MFA and live view?
 
hah awesome lenses
too bad you'll, apparently, only be alive for one day's use of them though heh
 
jitteringjr said:
So a little more on the MFD issues with the f4 IS. Last night I was taking test shots of a $20 bill and comparing the results to my 55-250. I was shooting on a tripod at close to the MFD of the L and I was getting very frustrated because the L was getting its rear kicked. No matter what I did the 55-250 was sharper, IS on IS off Live view or not. Then I ran through a MFA test with the L and settled in on -5. Then the tides were turned and the L was blowing the 55-250 away.

Normally I advocated returning a lens if it needs MFA, but I am getting consistent results with all subject distances and focal lengths at -5, so I am going to stick with it.

The weird thing here is that the live view images improved after I set in -5 MFA. I thought in contrast detect, live view, that MFA had no effect. Anyone else seen this behavior with MFA and live view?
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it shouldn't change live view at all

my experience is that the f/4 IS is very poor 200mm MFD f/4, super hazy, but stop it to f/5.6 and suddenly it becomes worlds better and at f/6.3 it's quite good even (it actually is slightly better than my 70-300L at MFD aperture for aperture and the 70-300L was desgined for solid MFD performance, of course the 70-300L does ok right from wide open while the f/4 IS needs to be stopped down 1 stop so the 70-300L design helps cerainly but OTOH since the other lens is faster, comparing th two, the f/4 IS does a touch better MFD actually)
 
My wife can't tell one lens from another. My recent purchase of an 85L didn't make so much as a ripple - looks the same as the 50L really. Not so sure about getting a white lens. Might be a dead give-away.
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