Repaired sticky blade. issue came back?

Evidence that the problems are more frequent please? Without evidence, there is nothing to downplay.
Fuji got the evidence. And they are dead silent about it.

Microsoft had a problem with the xbox 360. It has a design failure. All xbox 360s will die of the famous overheat problem, the RROD. It took microsoft years to admit it. They just denied for a very long time that there was a problem.

Fuji should step out and at least say how big the problem is and what they are gonna do about it after the warranty period. I'd be very p*ss*d if mine broke after 1 year after just 500 clicks......
 
Evidence that the problems are more frequent please? Without evidence, there is nothing to downplay.
Fuji got the evidence. And they are dead silent about it.
Perhaps Fuji have facts which lead them to act proportionately. I.e. Fix any genuinely faulty cameras through their normal support channels. If there were more faults than normal capacity for manufacturing tolerance, Fuji would adopt less costly approach which they haven't...
Microsoft had a problem with the xbox 360. It has a design failure. All xbox 360s will die of the famous overheat problem, the RROD. It took microsoft years to admit it. They just denied for a very long time that there was a problem.
How long will a typical xbox live before this 'planned obsolescence' kicks in? Welcome to the consumer society. I don't have an xbox, and presume the problem was fixed years ago.
Fuji should step out and at least say how big the problem is and what they are gonna do about it after the warranty period. I'd be very p*ss*d if mine broke after 1 year after just 500 clicks......
Fuji have already given a proportionate response... Work it out ;) if the scale of failures increases to beyond normal tolerance, perhaps their response will change to match.

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And yet only 130 people did so.
Maybe you're shocked by only 129 ... out of 189, but it's not so shocking, I'd say.
Rather the contrary, you're the one who acts as if that is a shocking number. I expect a very low number, again, human nature.
That "ravduc" guy was saying yesterday that there are only 360 registered users, if I understood him correctly.
Which also tells us very little, because a lot of people (like me) would create an account to complain if something like this happened, and there are a lot more than 360 readers of the forum - again, me for example.
That forum has been around for awhile. The idea that lots of people registered, then lost interest, as the months rolled by, and of the 360 registered users, only 230 still read the forum, that I can believe.
Wait, didn't you just argue that X100 users are particularly interested and likely to exclaim the wonders of their toy? And now you're saying they lost interest?

Can you at least keep consistent in your arguments?
189 could mean that just about everybody that reads that forum did participate in the poll.
It could also mean they all had cotton candy for breakfast. But what it could mean is pretty irrelevant. What matters is that it's pretty much immaterial how many answer "yay my camera is fine".
And others didn't participate in the poll because they don't yet own an X100.
I honestly have no idea why you keep listing trivialities. It won't change how polls work, it won't demonstrate that X100 users are non-human in polls, it won't do anything except show that you expect the person you're talking to to not be able to consider the most basic of factors affecting a poll.

When you yourself have no clue how people behave in polls. That is rich. I'd be insulted if I was one to take offense from how I am treated on forums.
Maybe you're shocked by only 129 saying they had no problem, but not me.
Again with the inconsistency. You've been acting all shocked about the numbers before, and now suddenly you see them as normal. But, since they're normal, there is no need for the chicken little hysteria anyway, is there?

Jesper
 
And those who actually have the problem should post. That's good information for everyone. But when people who haven't had it happen are nerd raging about how it makes them not buy the camera, or even worse, when they return the camera over the nerd rage of others (who don't have the camera or the problem) and then nerd rage about it ... that is doing nothing but create needless confusion.

Even if I had the sticky blades problem, I'd do nothing but recommend the camera for its intended purpose (small, high IQ walkabout camera) and say don't buy it to someone who I know will be turned off by its quirks. The issue is getting repaired without fuss as long as the camera hasn't been abused, and I have no doubt it will be either free or affordable once warranty is expired - Fuji aren't fools, no matter how much they're painted as such. Long before the first warranty has expired at that, I wonder what time machine the nerd ragers have access to.

As to photos, I don't have many I can share; most are confidential or personal. I did shoot a few at a wedding, mostly with the X100, can be found here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41706540@N00/6063718134/in/set-72157627464765104

This was my first serious outing with the X100 so I had to learn a lot while doing it. It was fun though!

Jesper
 
Fuji got the evidence. And they are dead silent about it.
Yep. Which means all we have to go by is the amount of cases users report. And while those are definitely not few enough to simply ignore, they're not an avalanche either. Most of the people complaining about sticky blades in this forum, for example, do not even own the camera. They either haven't bought it (over this issue) or returned it (usually without getting sticky blades, although a few did and immediately gave up on the camera).
Microsoft had a problem with the xbox 360. It has a design failure. All xbox 360s will die of the famous overheat problem, the RROD. It took microsoft years to admit it. They just denied for a very long time that there was a problem.
Microsoft are pretty, shall we say, "unique" in their approach to customers. I've worked with their products for decades, and I can't wait for them to become obsolete. Perhaps they will learn a bit about humility then.

So far Fuji haven't sent out press releases denying there is a problem, like MS did on the red ring of death. Nor have the numbers of failing cameras come even close to the huge batches of practically DOA systems Microsoft shipped out. The comparison is pretty off, and to judge Fuji when the issue hasn't been widely know for more than weeks is pretty harsh.

But on the other hand, if they succumb to such underhanded tactics, then I'll be on the frontline with the pitchfork and torch. I just don't believe in guilty until proven innocent.
Fuji should step out and at least say how big the problem is and what they are gonna do about it after the warranty period. I'd be very p*ss*d if mine broke after 1 year after just 500 clicks......
If you only shoot 500 photos in a year I have to wonder why you buy a camera like the X100. ;)

Jesper
 
Wait, didn't you just argue that X100 users are particularly interested and likely to exclaim the wonders of their toy? And now you're saying they lost interest?

Can you at least keep consistent in your arguments?
Some people registered into the X100 forum and lost interest in the X100 after their wife told them there was no way in the world they would be spending more money on another digital camera.

Others lost interest after they pleaded for Fuji to make a zoom version.

There are a thousand different reasons why people might register into a forum and then later on, move on.

You're starting to just slip into argumentative word games now ... and nothing more is really being said.
 
You're starting to just slip into argumentative word games now ... and nothing more is really being said.
It's not word games to ask you what your precise argument is. So far all you do is state it's "obvious", although you refuse to state exactly what is so obvious, and argue both A and NOT A in support of the same argument.

In short, you make a lot of hot air, and when called on it you say "nothing more is really being said" - no ++++ Sherlock, when you said nothing to begin with! Except of course that X100 users are special and non-human in their reactions. But you refuse to support this as well, of course.

Jesper
 
It took me a lot of time to decide in favor of the X100 but finally to postpone my decision until Fuji will openly say something about the issue. I have lost confidence because they do not communicate about this openly.
Fujifilm HQ, I hope you're reading this.
9 months after the X100's release it is still very hard to buy the camera in the US. Why? They sell out instantly . Fujifilm is far too busy counting their money to worry about 1 lost sale.
How much are the spending to fix a problem after the fact, profits could be even better but I bet they have a backlog of inventory they could not ship so now until it is gone, and also until a real fix is identified, buyer beware.
 
How much are the spending to fix a problem after the fact, profits could be even better but I bet they have a backlog of inventory they could not ship so now until it is gone, and also until a real fix is identified, buyer beware.
Buyer beware of what? Are Fuji refusing to repair these defects? Are people left with broken cameras and no recourse?

Jesper
 
In short, you make a lot of hot air, and when called on it you say "nothing more is really being said" - no ++++ Sherlock, when you said nothing to begin with!
I'm sure that you would love to turn this into an exchange of insults.

In fact, I have repeatedly suggested that the studies you cite about polls quite possibly don't reflect the truth about a forum where users have chosen to register. In effect, chosen to participate in a discussion. In such a discussion, people are much more willing to give their opinion or experience, good or bad, with a product.

You don't listen to that every time I tell it to you, because you don't want to listen.

Instead you just keeping asking why shouldn't this X100 poll be like all the other polls in the world.

Old studies about polls, from years ago, that don't reflect the new on-line world of users passionate about a subject and interested in discussing the subject. With nothing more than the need for two mouse clicks to express their experience.

Even your "birthday paradox" idea ... it probably has no role in this discussion because the maximum number of possible dates for a birthday is 366. But here we are talking about at least 70,000 digital cameras.

And then here, you bring up the subject of "hot air". You cite all this intelligent sounding stuff ... but it's all just unrelated, and in fact, what "Joe Average" has concluded, his common sense belief, is closer to the truth than what you think, with all your talking.

Quite obviously, some shocking number of X100s are experiencing the aperture shutter blade problem.

And people should not let you lead them astray with all your nonsense.
 
Hi Swede, I hear you. Yes, there seems to be lots of blade threads but I really think it will pass as this all gets sorted out. One thing I am certain of is that Fuji didn't want this and they seem to be doing the right thing. The folks who have purchased used cameras might be in a bit of a grey area. I hope they too get their x100s fixed.

It may seem I wanted to go on and on about this with you but that wasn't/isn't the case.

The x100 is a fine camera. As the bugs get worked out I wouldn't be surprised if a future x200 will be even better.

Yes, shots from the x100 are always fun to check out on the forum. I saw some good ones out here last night.
 
In fact, I have repeatedly suggested that the studies you cite about polls quite possibly don't reflect the truth about a forum where users have chosen to register.
That's the case in every self select poll, so that's no different in this case.
In effect, chosen to participate in a discussion. In such a discussion, people are much more willing to give their opinion or experience, good or bad, with a product.
That has been studied carefully, and the result is - no, it's not like that.
You don't listen to that every time I tell it to you, because you don't want to listen.
I not only listen; I try to understand where you come from. I even asked you outright what makes X100 owners different from, for example, Jaguar owners, Canon 5D owners and Nintendo Wii owners, and you ignored me. Or didn't listen.
Instead you just keeping asking why shouldn't this X100 poll be like all the other polls in the world.
Yep, I do, and you never provide an answer.
Old studies about polls, from years ago, that don't reflect the new on-line world of users passionate about a subject and interested in discussing the subject. With nothing more than the need for two mouse clicks to express their experience.
The "new" on-line world is fifteen years old now. It's been studied very carefully, and you may note that the summary I linked was about - online polls, with nothing more than the need for two mouse clicks to express their experience.

Now, unless you have a better study to pull out, I hope you can cease your senseless flailing.
Even your "birthday paradox" idea ... it probably has no role in this discussion because the maximum number of possible dates for a birthday is 366. But here we are talking about at least 70,000 digital cameras.
You don't have a clue why I brought that up, do you. Have you read up on what the birthday paradox shows us? Hint; it actually has nothing to do with birthdays.
And then here, you bring up the subject of "hot air". You cite all this intelligent sounding stuff ... but it's all just unrelated, and in fact, what "Joe Average" has concluded, his common sense belief, is closer to the truth than what you think, with all your talking.
Show me the evidence that "Joe Average" and his common sense belief is more correct than scientific studies, please.
Quite obviously, some shocking number of X100s are experiencing the aperture shutter blade problem.
Evidence please.
And people should not let you lead them astray with all your nonsense.
And Chicken Little might be right - the sky might be falling, evidence be damned!!

You outright state that evidence is immaterial, "Joe Average" common sense that the problem is much wider than evidence shows should prevail, and you accuse me of being insulting and spouting nonsense? How can you look yourself in the mirror with a worldview like that?

Jesper
 
Hi Swede, I hear you. Yes, there seems to be lots of blade threads but I really think it will pass as this all gets sorted out. One thing I am certain of is that Fuji didn't want this and they seem to be doing the right thing.
Fuji knows how bad it would look if they just leave people without options, not to mention they quite likely want to use this kind of mechanism on more cameras. They'll get it licked, I have no worries about that.

And if they don't, they'll get burned really bad, for good reason. Media, reviewers and public wallets will assure that - plus no-one will trust their cameras again if it comes to that. And since Fuji knows this, I'm not at all worried.

And it pains me a bit to see so many people judging Fuji before they've had a chance to work through the issue. As if they're villains for not instantly knowing what the problem is and announcing a fix - if they had known from the start, it would never have happened.
The folks who have purchased used cameras might be in a bit of a grey area. I hope they too get their x100s fixed.
I hope so as well. Where I live the law takes care of that, but it would be very good of Fuji to come out with a statement once they've sorted the manufacturing glitch which causes this.

Jesper
 
And Chicken Little might be right - the sky might be falling, evidence be damned!!
Look at the way you write.

There's nobody in this forum more worked up about this subject than you.

Others can calmly look at the situation, and see the obvious, but you're so worried about the topic that you're going nuts.

You're Chicken Little, not the rest of us.
 
And Chicken Little might be right - the sky might be falling, evidence be damned!!
Look at the way you write.
Using illustrative colloquialisms? Yes, it's a habit of mine. Since people tend to understand those better than just raw explanations I don't really find it to be a problem. Would you prefer I write another way? Could you explain how, and why?
There's nobody in this forum more worked up about this subject than you.
More passionate I could buy, but worked up? I'm sorry hon, but your'e looking but not seeing. Yes, people getting the basics of polls, psychology and statistics wrong is something which I am passionate about sorting out, but from there to getting worked out is quite a long trip. You will notice when I am worked out, and it will be nothing like what you see here. Mostly because I tend not to post if I get worked up about something. ;)
Others can calmly look at the situation, and see the obvious, but you're so worried about the topic that you're going nuts.
There you go again, talking about "the obvious". What is "the obvious" then, which can be deducted from "calmly looking at the situation" as opposed to going with ones gut feeling?
You're Chicken Little, not the rest of us.
LOL

Jesper
 
my apologies, I meant to use the name of the person you were quoting, not you. And yes it was quite sarcastic.
 
I sent mine one week ago and just got it back, they have changed the lens. I can even remember my old lens having a tiny scratch, so now that's gone!
It's been updated with the 1.11 firmware and it seems to have been cleaned too.

It works better than before, obviously due to the firmware -focusing in low light is so much better-
So, very happy I must say, but lets hope this issue does not come back again.
 

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