And in day to day life we are wrong more often than right. Read Bruce Schneier's Beyond Fear for a rundown on how horrifyingly wrong "common sense" usually is.
And some people prefer truth over propaganda. In all honesty I can't understand people who don't. What makes you prefer propaganda over truth? What leads you down that path? "Common sense"?
Only for those who do not understand the nature of polls. Which sadly seems to be most people.
Who exactly is being silenced?
Wow, so in order to be "right" in your day to day life you ARE using statistics! man, you are calculating fast!!!
No, I'm not. Instead I'm aware of that my gut feelings are usually wrong, and if the issue is important to me I take the time to learn about it in detail, including statistical underpinnings. Luckily there are quite few matters which are important to me, and since I know I'm probably wrong about the others I refrain from commenting or acting on them.
Available statistics are that at the largest forum for X100 users on the planet 60 self selected answers in a poll state they have a sticky blade problem. That's it. And from that the conclusion which can be drawn is - not much, except that that's rather a low number for the amount of noise generated.
I would like to know where I am "downplaying" anything.
"Statistically insignificant" is your words, not mine; I have no idea where you get them from, or why you use them. They're wrong. And hell yes, I would want it fixed.
That could be, but people returning cameras and then posting in DPR that they did so out of fear that their camera one day will require service does not strike me as a good way to make Fuji want to keep working on this type of camera.
So you advocate that disinformation should stand uncontested? Ok, well, advocate away.
No. I'm saying most snap decided "common sense" is wrong. But you state you weren't relying solely on your common sense for a snap decision, but did research. That's the proper way to handle things like this; not take a quick look and go "this is how it is", but actually consider the available evidence and see where it leads, and then make a decision.
I've taken it as my main camera for a few trips to China now. I love it. I have no decent backup, so I'd be very sad if something happened to it, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. If it happens, I'll deal with it, and until then I'll enjoy the camera.
My own experience tells me that some people love to stomp their feet on forums - it irritates me to see posts from people who haven't even used an X100 stir the pot...
Nice, I choose to enjoy a perfectly fine product I bought for myself, and choose not to waste time reading petty pot stirring from those trying to discredit an innovative company doing a great job.
You are downplaying the willingness of people in a forum devoted to the X100 to stand up and say, "my X100 is working fine".
So to expect people in the forum to behave like people elsewhere on the planet is "downplaying"? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Link me the study supporting your stance on this please?
I have no idea why you phrase things as "you want to say"; that seems pretty daft? Fact is, there are only 60 answers in the self selected poll stating they have the problem, no matter what I want. And that is all that is important; the ration to answers is irrelevant, for reasons which you by now should understand. No downplaying going on, merely an attempt to actually look at the evidence.
Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence, so there is nothing to downplay.
Evidence that the problems are more frequent please? Without evidence, there is nothing to downplay.
If you think the polling in the X100 forum was slanted because the people that did have problems with their X100 said so, but those that didn't have problems, they didn't participate in the poll in equal numbers ... then fine.
You've had your say. I have had mine. There isn't much more to say. Maybe you don't realize how foolish we both look to be going on about this, but I do.
All polling is slanted, that's a given. The bias can be minimized by using correct procedures and will be amplified by using incorrect procedures, and the most incorrect procedure of all is the self selected answers poll. That's what I'm saying, and if you have an argument with that, I'd like to know exactly what you base that on.
Another poll, this time with people sitting nodding their heads "sure I would", people who I can assure you for the most part did NOT go vote in the poll on the X100 forum. That is going to show ... what exactly? That the few people who are interested enough in the issue to read these endless threads are interested in the question?
You keep stating they will not behave like normal humans answering normal polls about normal subjects they have taken an interest in. You base this on ... what exactly? How is it that X100 owners are more participating in polls than, say, Jaguar owners are in polls about Jaguar problems, or Canon 5D owners are in polls about Canon 5D problems, or Nintendo Wii owners are in polls about Nintendo Wii problems? What is it that makes the X100 owners so special ?
And yet only 130 people did so. Funny that, people behave like people do elsewhere, even on the X100 forum.
I knew how foolish I'd look before I wrote a single word, but I refuse to let disinformation and chicken little approaches stand uncontested. SIWOTI and all that!
Maybe you're shocked by only 129 ... out of 189, but it's not so shocking, I'd say.
Jesper, Common ground at last. We agree on something. I was beginning to think you owned Fuji stock. Good grief. It is just another camera discussion (admittedly many of them) on the dpr. These issues come and go. If sharing info on how to get their cameras repaired helps any of the unlucky owners of X100s that are not working properly it is a good thing.
