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Wedding 'togs. Will you be getting a 1dx?
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JimP101
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If my 1Ds gave up yes I would get one - but not worried about 18MP which is plenty for weddings.
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Douglas69
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The object of wedding photography does not centre around equipment. I'm a Nikon user myself but my all time favourite is a Fuji 'S' series. The needed objectives for wedding photography are all contained in this camera. Being able to capture detail in a white dress and black suit in bright sunlight make Fuji SLRs the wedding camera all contenders need to be measured against. Photoshop is no equal in camera correct images.
Despite owning a Full frame (Nikon) and a APC frame (Nikon) I still use the Fuji for 85% of a wedding shoot. Were I a Canon user, I would look at one of these $14000 wonders and try to calculate how much work I'd need to harvest in order to pay for it before considering any of the other objectives needed.
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Despite owning a Full frame (Nikon) and a APC frame (Nikon) I still use the Fuji for 85% of a wedding shoot. Were I a Canon user, I would look at one of these $14000 wonders and try to calculate how much work I'd need to harvest in order to pay for it before considering any of the other objectives needed.
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PenguinPhotoCo
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I use 5D2 and shoot in sRAW so 11mp is plenty - have done 5' prints (as in foot) at that mp and it's fine. Do 12x12 albums and 24x30 prints often - again, I don't need more MP.
The higher ISO -sure, that's something I'd use.
Better focus? I don't feel I have a problem now, but until I use something better who can be really be sure?
More FPS...don't need for weddings and I don't shoot action, so no.
Weather proofing? Again, not needed. If shooting like this didn't create an issue with my 5D then I"m OK.
I certainly don't want more weight to carry around for 8 hours.
If I had that camera would I use all those nifty features? Few of them, so it's not worth the cost as the benefit to me would be small.
I want the best gear possible I feel if the gear keeps me from getting my vision then I need to go look for gear that will let me get what I see. At this time I don't feel constrained by my 5D2.
The last thing is cost - $6800? I can get 3 5D2s for that price a couple of used 1D bodies if I really need a 1D. I just don't see what spending the extra $4k on that body will do for me - give me a new vision, a new product (Ok, ISO 50k might), make my life easier (dual card slots? More durability? Ethernet?)?
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The higher ISO -sure, that's something I'd use.
Better focus? I don't feel I have a problem now, but until I use something better who can be really be sure?
More FPS...don't need for weddings and I don't shoot action, so no.
Weather proofing? Again, not needed. If shooting like this didn't create an issue with my 5D then I"m OK.
I certainly don't want more weight to carry around for 8 hours.
If I had that camera would I use all those nifty features? Few of them, so it's not worth the cost as the benefit to me would be small.
I want the best gear possible I feel if the gear keeps me from getting my vision then I need to go look for gear that will let me get what I see. At this time I don't feel constrained by my 5D2.
The last thing is cost - $6800? I can get 3 5D2s for that price a couple of used 1D bodies if I really need a 1D. I just don't see what spending the extra $4k on that body will do for me - give me a new vision, a new product (Ok, ISO 50k might), make my life easier (dual card slots? More durability? Ethernet?)?
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I work with a D3100 and am quite thrilled with it, so no. The 1Dx looks nice, but I'm primarily interested in size, price, and ISO. Pretty much nothing else matters to me--not FPS, not video, not...whatever. Actually, that's not true. Viewfinder size and built in focus motors also matter, but I can make do without those. So while the 1Dx would give me 4 more stops of ISO and include a 2x larger VF as well as an inbuilt focus motor, it would also cost about 16 times as much and dwarf it nearly 3x in size, automatically ruling it out. So at the moment, for my purposes, there aren't really any cameras on the market that would qualify as upgrades aside from the K-r or K-x from Pentax.
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Michael Thomas Mitchell
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On paper, at least, it looks like an AMAZING machine. That said, I don't really need one, so no. There's still so much life left in my 1DII and 1DsII bodies that I'm not even THINKING about getting anything else for a long time. Don't need to. These do everything I demand of them and are capable of more than I'll ever ask.
hotdog321
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You sound like my kind of guy. Very good points. I shoot with a couple of 5DII cameras these days; talk about getting the most bang for the buck! I bought two for the price of one of my previous 1DII bodies.
If I start shooting sports and spot news again, I might be very tempted by that 10-12 fps, hopefully razor-sharp focus, and rugged body. Otherwise, I'm VERY happy with my 5DIIs.
If I start shooting sports and spot news again, I might be very tempted by that 10-12 fps, hopefully razor-sharp focus, and rugged body. Otherwise, I'm VERY happy with my 5DIIs.
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I use the Nikon D700 as my fullframe body....along with a Canon 7D and and Nikon F5. As the rumor mill goes, maybe the D800 with be 36mp....giving me an ideal camera for landscape and large portraits, and the D700 for wedding and portraiture as well.
In all honesty, I use these bodies mainly at low iso anyway. I use a 50 and 85 for most of my wedding work.....with the lenses between f1.4 and f4. So noise isn't a huge concern for me. The 7D already gives me 8fps, 18mp, and low noise at iso 100 for landscapes.....the 1Dx won't really be a change anyone will see on print between it and the 7D.
Looks like a decent camera though.
Faintandfuzzy
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I can agree with pretty much all of that. The big issue for me, is camera weight. That's why I went with the D700 over a 1Ds3. I used a 1Ds and 1Ds2 for years....gave me a headache and backache. The D700 is nice and lightweight....and for weddings, the 12mp is more than enough. Albums don't need huge amounts of resolution. And I've produced wonderful 16x24 and 20x30 portraits with the D700. Even my 7D can handle 20x30 portraits beautifully!I use 5D2 and shoot in sRAW so 11mp is plenty - have done 5' prints (as in foot) at that mp and it's fine. Do 12x12 albums and 24x30 prints often - again, I don't need more MP.
The higher ISO -sure, that's something I'd use.
Better focus? I don't feel I have a problem now, but until I use something better who can be really be sure?
More FPS...don't need for weddings and I don't shoot action, so no.
Weather proofing? Again, not needed. If shooting like this didn't create an issue with my 5D then I"m OK.
I certainly don't want more weight to carry around for 8 hours.
If I had that camera would I use all those nifty features? Few of them, so it's not worth the cost as the benefit to me would be small.
I want the best gear possible I feel if the gear keeps me from getting my vision then I need to go look for gear that will let me get what I see. At this time I don't feel constrained by my 5D2.
The last thing is cost - $6800? I can get 3 5D2s for that price a couple of used 1D bodies if I really need a 1D. I just don't see what spending the extra $4k on that body will do for me - give me a new vision, a new product (Ok, ISO 50k might), make my life easier (dual card slots? More durability? Ethernet?)?
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I already have 6 1D Mark IVs and they all meet my needs perfectly. I bought a few more from photographers leaving the industry so I have all the cameras I need.
I never jump on the bandwagon when the new technology or cameras come onto the market. I wait to let them iton out the issues then after 2-4 production runs, I go and think about buying it.
It has to make good business sense.
I never jump on the bandwagon when the new technology or cameras come onto the market. I wait to let them iton out the issues then after 2-4 production runs, I go and think about buying it.
It has to make good business sense.
Travis Loyd
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As the conversation on this subject has moved to a philosophical discussion of need vs want with the obvious...yes it's a hell of a camera...conceeded. Can I ask a related subject? Should I upgrade?
In the past 18 months, my primary job has changed and I no longer have the availability to shoot 25+ events a year for my photo company who shoots 75-80 weddings per year. I am satisfied with the images captured with my current camera 7D. Admittedly, is an improvement. Full sensor and higher usable iso at the top of that list. What percentage of my net is reasonable to spend on a camera body? At 30%, and a 3 year useful life, I would need to net 8000 in part time income for 3 years to cover $2400 purchase.
Thoughts?
For background, I've had good success for my primary job and it affords me a bit of discrestion with the photography income.
In the past 18 months, my primary job has changed and I no longer have the availability to shoot 25+ events a year for my photo company who shoots 75-80 weddings per year. I am satisfied with the images captured with my current camera 7D. Admittedly, is an improvement. Full sensor and higher usable iso at the top of that list. What percentage of my net is reasonable to spend on a camera body? At 30%, and a 3 year useful life, I would need to net 8000 in part time income for 3 years to cover $2400 purchase.
Thoughts?
For background, I've had good success for my primary job and it affords me a bit of discrestion with the photography income.
Mike_13
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on paper it looks great
but all we've really seen is that it's lights out in fps
more hands-on reviews and samples are needed before anyone can make a case this is a camera they need
but all we've really seen is that it's lights out in fps
more hands-on reviews and samples are needed before anyone can make a case this is a camera they need
Robert Hoy
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Sounds like you might have spares if you were just grabbing them from those closing their business. Maybe sell 2 to fund a 1D-X purchase?
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slowhands214238
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I think 30% is way high, unless you seriously are considering NEW directions & opportunities which cannot be met with your current gear...which might yeald higher $$ time
Faintandfuzzy
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Good advice. Having 6 bodies is overkill. I've never met a wedding photographer with that many. Useless redundancy. I'd sell 3 or 4 of those bodies and buy a 5D2 and a 1Dx. The 1D4 isn't on my wedding list for gear.
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It's too early to be sure, but it looks like a fine piece of gear.
Whether or not to buy is very easy: I like to use two identical bodies, so multiply that price by two and it doesn't take long to reach a decision!
Whether or not to buy is very easy: I like to use two identical bodies, so multiply that price by two and it doesn't take long to reach a decision!
Carl Decker
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With my current gear ( which is not Canon ) I am technically not much restricted, that means, my photography would not become measurable better if I would have Iso 100000.
If I would buy a camera for much money, I would perhaps buy a Leica M system, or Medium format, something with which I stand out of the crowd of wedding photographers, even if its not as high iso able as the new canon.
I dont have the money anyway.
If I would buy a camera for much money, I would perhaps buy a Leica M system, or Medium format, something with which I stand out of the crowd of wedding photographers, even if its not as high iso able as the new canon.
I dont have the money anyway.
ScottyNV
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I only do the occasional wedding... which my 5D2 handles quite nicely, and my aging 350D/XT serves as backup/second body.
The question really comes down to HOW you shoot - if you are the kind of shooter who takes 2-4000 frames at a typical 8-hr gig and deliver a couple of hundred, one might be very interested in the 1Dx.. Myself, I would normally shoot about 400 frames in that time and deliver 380 or so. See the philisophical difference?
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The question really comes down to HOW you shoot - if you are the kind of shooter who takes 2-4000 frames at a typical 8-hr gig and deliver a couple of hundred, one might be very interested in the 1Dx.. Myself, I would normally shoot about 400 frames in that time and deliver 380 or so. See the philisophical difference?
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John Motts
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So the 1DX is aimed at those who don't know what they're doing?
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