Spent a day with NEX-7 - Wowww!!!

Kiril Karaatanasov · Oct 9, 2011

Slynky said:
Wish there was some way to look at full size...perhaps there is and I just can't figure it out...

Click on the magnification glass and then there is slider on the bottom right to enalarge to full size.

Note that I loaded few thumbnails extracted from RAW - those are downsized quite a bit. All the files without info a thumbs

Davidgilmour · Oct 9, 2011

TiagoReil said:
Does it click? Have you tested moving it while recording video?

Lol, my thoughts exactly! If I had the chance of holdng a NEX-7 in my hands I would have shaken it like Polaroid picture, just to hear the click

relate22 · Oct 9, 2011

Kiril Karaatanasov said:
I did not notice the problem on my NEX-5 and did not really test for it.

Thanks I guess I will have to wait for the reviews. The NEX-5 crops video severely in the vertical band. I bought the fisheye lens for my hanggliding as it said it had close to 170 degree field of view which it does for stills but for some reason seriously crops video in the vertical.

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greenlens · Oct 9, 2011

Thanks, Kiril, for the shared info! It seems to me, Minolta team did a good job again. "7" is a magic number..

Kiril Karaatanasov · Oct 9, 2011

Uwe Steinmueller said:
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No longer the black magic of managing shutter speed under 1/100 of a second as to produce smooth motion.

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How that. Does it have ND filters?

You can see the speed, iso, compensation and aperture on the screen.

This helps one understand what is to be done to get the right speed and aperture.

...and you can control all of these as you shoot.

NEX-5 did not show speed and iso. Aperture on Af lenses is locked. So pretty much nothing you can do while shooting - except turn the rings on a vari-ND filter hoping for the best.

Kiril Karaatanasov · Oct 9, 2011

TiagoReil said:
Does it click? Have you tested moving it while recording video?

Because it has expensive A900 like metal attachments for the straps that make noise when you shake the camera.

The whole clicking issue is completely idiotic and non-issue IMHO. The thing is the build-in microphone has auto-gain and magnifies otherwise inaudible sounds.

So seriously the nex-7 with its strap attachments and build in microphones will click the hell out of you.

Using external microphone will solve this or may be somehow bandaging the strap attachments.

I think this same clicking will show up on all cameras with nice strap attachments - all of the Olympus micro 4/3 cameras for example.

aman74 · Oct 9, 2011

Kiril Karaatanasov said:
TiagoReil said:

Does it click? Have you tested moving it while recording video?

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Because it has expensive A900 like metal attachments for the straps that make noise when you shake the camera.

The whole clicking issue is completely idiotic and non-issue IMHO. The thing is the build-in microphone has auto-gain and magnifies otherwise inaudible sounds.

So seriously the nex-7 with its strap attachments and build in microphones will click the hell out of you.

Using external microphone will solve this or may be somehow bandaging the strap attachments.

I think this same clicking will show up on all cameras with nice strap attachments - all of the Olympus micro 4/3 cameras for example.

The issue is not from the strap attachments though.

Boris Moscow · Oct 9, 2011

Thanks in advance.

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Boris Moscow · Oct 9, 2011

Looking forward seeing more pictures.

It really helps me understand which of them, NEX-7 or 5N is better for me.

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Slynky · Oct 9, 2011

Having peeped a bit a the fullsize samples, I can say I had hoped for better detail/sharpness. The image of the store front seems a bit soft...
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HeavyDuty · Oct 9, 2011

Kiril Karaatanasov said:
The EVF is not as good as people say. It is quite good but not anywhere as good as OVF. On the positive side you can frame with it quite successfully and is please to do so. There is zero (!!!) lag in almost any light, there is no unpleasant effects of any kind. Color look nice tons of functions including the menu and image review work in the EVF as well as the screen. The thing with it is that there is a bit of flicker, the expose sometimes is not right and you do not see quite well. Overall though comfort of shooting with the EVF is about as good as I can imagine - fantastic. I was using it predominantly today despite loving the articulating screen.

Can you comment on the NEX7 EVF versus the Oly VF2? Better, worse or same?

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Kiril Karaatanasov · Oct 9, 2011

I have not tested the kit lens on the NEX-7

the overal expereince though wiht the Zeiss is of instant focus and shutter - it was a bit shocking how fast the shutter went after pressing the button. Just felt unnnatural.

the shutter noise is much less than NEX-5

Kiril Karaatanasov · Oct 9, 2011

relate22 said:
Kiril Karaatanasov said:

I did not notice the problem on my NEX-5 and did not really test for it.

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Thanks I guess I will have to wait for the reviews. The NEX-5 crops video severely in the vertical band. I bought the fisheye lens for my hanggliding as it said it had close to 170 degree field of view which it does for stills but for some reason seriously crops video in the vertical.

Video is 16:9 where as photos are 3:2 so there will be vertical crop always.

It may be that nex-5 also crops norizontally a bit and this combined produced outrageous vertical crop.

By the way is not the video display exactly what you get then on the movie?

Kiril Karaatanasov · Oct 9, 2011

HeavyDuty said:
Can you comment on the NEX7 EVF versus the Oly VF2? Better, worse or same?

I have only used one Oluympus EVF the one comming wiht E-P2.

E-P2 I found useless. The EVF was so bad I could not use it for framing or bare wiht it for more than few seconds - huge lag, inacurate color, smearing all over, poor resolution.

The NEX-7 is still artificial but there is no smearing, no lag, colors are pretty good. Detail is sketchy - you cannot hope to focus with it. But you can frame images easily and combined wiht peaking it may work well for focusing.

There is also option to switch of "exposure preview" so the EVF and screen will not mimic the exposure - very useful in several shooting situations - studio is the most evident one.

By the way for some reason I could not get peaking to work in the EVF. May be I do not know how to handle the camera.

Peaking on the screen of NEX-7 with Zeiss 24/1.8 was also felt somewhat worse than on the NEX-5 with Sigma 28/1.8 - I could not really figure when it is in focus, there were much less points lighting up.....It may be because of the bright daylight...I do not know. Perhpas I need to play a bit more withthe camera to figure it out.

Kiril Karaatanasov · Oct 9, 2011

Slynky said:
Having peeped a bit a the fullsize samples, I can say I had hoped for better detail/sharpness. The image of the store front seems a bit soft...

True. The flower one I found pretty good in sharpness.

These are all shot wiht the macro 30/3.5 - the full size ones.

turnstyle · Oct 9, 2011

Kiril Karaatanasov said:
It may be that nex-5 also crops norizontally a bit and this combined produced outrageous vertical crop.

By the way is not the video display exactly what you get then on the movie?

Yes, when you start a video on NEX5 it not only crops to 16:9, but it also crops horizontally too -- so you can't easily frame with the screen and then start shooting.

turnstyle · Oct 9, 2011

Kiril Karaatanasov said:
The NEX-7 is still artificial but there is no smearing, no lag, colors are pretty good. Detail is sketchy - you cannot hope to focus with it. But you can frame images easily and combined wiht peaking it may work well for focusing.

You can't focus with the NEX7 EVF? Can you perhaps elaborate on that?

Slynky · Oct 9, 2011

Yes, the single flower is pretty sharp.

Kiril Karaatanasov said:
Slynky said:

Having peeped a bit a the fullsize samples, I can say I had hoped for better detail/sharpness. The image of the store front seems a bit soft...

Click to expand...

True. The flower one I found pretty good in sharpness.

These are all shot wiht the macro 30/3.5 - the full size ones.

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NowHearThis · Oct 9, 2011

turnstyle said:
Kiril Karaatanasov said:

The NEX-7 is still artificial but there is no smearing, no lag, colors are pretty good. Detail is sketchy - you cannot hope to focus with it. But you can frame images easily and combined wiht peaking it may work well for focusing.

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You can't focus with the NEX7 EVF? Can you perhaps elaborate on that?

I got to use the NEX-7 on Wednesday of last week, manual focusing wasn't a problem for me. The Peaking function is a cool feature, I didn't try it out but did get to see it demoed by the Sony reps. I like the EVF on the NEX-7, even though I'll probably have to get used to using my right eye more to look through it (I'm left eye dominant) - OK, I don't 'have to' but doing so means my nose wont bump up against the LCD. This is really one of those cameras you just have to use to appreciate fully. I underestimated it and now it looks more and more like I'm going to get it [ NEX-7 ] instead of the A77.

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aman74 · Oct 9, 2011

Kiril Karaatanasov said:
The NEX-7 is still artificial but there is no smearing, no lag, colors are pretty good. Detail is sketchy - you cannot hope to focus with it. But you can frame images easily and combined wiht peaking it may work well for focusing.

That's weird with all the people saying these new EVF's are great for MF. Can you not zoom in the image?

Do you still think the clicking if from the straps?

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