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D800 postponed until Apil 4, 2012!

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... in the first place? These are two completely different cameras, designed to meet different needs. One is a studio and landscape body, the other an all-purpose pro-grade small body. Both excel at what they are designed for.

If video is a need, one has it and one does not. These kinds of frustrated comparisons are in reality non sequiturs.

There are as many Canon shooters lamenting why Canon won't deliver a D700-like body, the mythical "3D".

Imagine someone walking in to a show room to by a new car. This person needs an off-road 4 wheel drive vehicle that can carry 6 passengers with gear, but somehow ends up driving off in a compact sedan that is known for excellent gas mileage. How foolish would you think that person to be if they then proceeded to complain that unless the manufacturer's next version of that model has off-road 4 wheel drive capability and room for 6 passengers they are going to buy a competitive manufacturers SUV. And then stipulates that the manufacturer must produce this revised model ahead of their normal planned update schedule.
 
ne beginner said:
... in the first place? These are two completely different cameras, designed to meet different needs. One is a studio and landscape body, the other an all-purpose pro-grade small body. Both excel at what they are designed for.
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Sorry but that is not the case. The 5D2 is not a "studio and landscape" camera. It is an affordable all around 35mm digital SLR used by hobbyists, enthusiasts and professionals.
 
Leos said:
RedFox88 said:
Leos said:
The D700 is getting closer to 3,5 years already, dont forget it came "off schedule" , several months before the 5D mk II.
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How about some facts.

D700 announced July 1, 5D2 announced Sept 17. 2.5 months and I don't call that "several". It's not even a "few". ;)
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I had my Nikon D700 in hand july 25. 2008. When did the first 5D II's roll out I dont know, but close to christmas I beleive
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I believe it was sooner. Guess we are of different beliefs. :D
 
Your a little Mad ain't cha'....Well I dare you. NO I DOUBLE DARE YOU! lol.
caribou said:
Check this guide to Nikon D800 the release date is in April 2012:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Obtenez-maximum-du-Nikon-D800/dp/2100541021/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317305163&sr=8-1

Obtenez le maximum du Nikon D800 [Hardcover]
Jean-Baptiste Guges

Publisher: Dunod (4 April 2012)

The book has been postponed all this year.

I am quick losing patience with Nikon. For the past 3years photographers have been shooting amazing films with the 5Dii and for the same price as a D700!
What do Nikon do is bring out some joke camera called the V1/J1!

I am very tempted to off load my Nikon gear on ebay and buy the 5DII.
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Hi Max,
Max Archer said:
It's my personal belief that nobody outside of Nikon, aside from a few Joe McNally-type photographers, who would never leak info for fear of losing their relationship with Nikon, actually knows anything about the upcoming D300s, D700, and D3s replacements. Everything else is just speculation.
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No, at least hundreds of people know about new upcoming models outside of Nikon. It's the same as in any other large industry. From parts deliverers to hired marketing and sales companies, from electronic safety testing companies and printing companies to that of manual publishers and media. How closer to the day of announcement/delivery how more know about it. The camera might be already in production for quite some time before the official announcement.
Max Archer said:
As for the book that started this thread, I think it's likely that it's delayed because there's no sign of the camera.
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There are absolutely signs of the new camera but not by the publisher. He absolutely does not have one for testing/reviewing purposes. Simple by the fact he would not name it already (Nikon does not allow it to be named, as I know very well, this kind of info is stated in their NDA)
Max Archer said:
Even if it's announced later this month, it could easily be April before the authors actually get the cameras, the book is written, and it goes to print and is ready for release. The publisher probably doesn't know anything about the release date, except that the book can't possibly be out when they said it would be.
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Indeed (see above about NDA), the title might even disappear easily also when there is an other model numbering :-)

Michel

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I share the sentiment of the original poster.

I own a D200. It served me well for low ISO work:
http://flic.kr/p/5qriQm
http://flic.kr/p/77nC9G
http://flic.kr/p/6QQGK6

After my daughter was born I opened a separate flickr account for her and she is all I'm shooting. Most of it is indoors. Baby + flash is a bad combo and even in a brightly lit room D200 is almost useless without it. This is when I started looking for an upgrade and D700 seemed like a perfect candidate. I was about to buy it when a year ago a friend of mine asked me to shoot his wedding and I rented D3S with 85mm f1.4 for a couple days... Holy ISO!

With D800 release rumored to be right around the corner I decided to wait hoping that it would have D3S' sensor and have video capability. Short clips of your kid with no additional equipment to haul around - priceless. Well, I am still waiting.

Now it looks like Nikon decided to make a megapixel monster instead of a high iso prince. I'm gonna pass yet again. Sad.
 
Not so quickly,

There might be more at the horizon.
Michel
ssh33 said:
I share the sentiment of the original poster.

I own a D200. It served me well for low ISO work:
http://flic.kr/p/5qriQm
http://flic.kr/p/77nC9G
http://flic.kr/p/6QQGK6

After my daughter was born I opened a separate flickr account for her and she is all I'm shooting. Most of it is indoors. Baby + flash is a bad combo and even in a brightly lit room D200 is almost useless without it. This is when I started looking for an upgrade and D700 seemed like a perfect candidate. I was about to buy it when a year ago a friend of mine asked me to shoot his wedding and I rented D3S with 85mm f1.4 for a couple days... Holy ISO!

With D800 release rumored to be right around the corner I decided to wait hoping that it would have D3S' sensor and have video capability. Short clips of your kid with no additional equipment to haul around - priceless. Well, I am still waiting.

Now it looks like Nikon decided to make a megapixel monster instead of a high iso prince. I'm gonna pass yet again. Sad.
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http://www.fotopropaganda.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9240992@N05/ (my pixel mess on flikr)
http://www.pbase.com/photopropaganda
 
The OP needs to read this:

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/cult+brands

Nikon will produce what it wants to produce when it thinks the time and circumstances are right. If a D800 does come about but is inferior to the D700 or D3 trio, it's not going to do Nikon's reputation any good.

As far as video is concerned, I can understand the desire for inter-changeable lenses, user-controlled aperture etc, etc -- the flexibility of dSLR in a videocam is mouth watering, but it's still only going to get you 1920x1080/30 at best.

Anyone really really serious about video should be looking at some serious video equipment, maybe http://www.red.com/products .
 
Ditto. Hang on.
M Lammerse said:
There might be more at the horizon.
Michel
ssh33 said:
I share the sentiment of the original poster.

I own a D200. It served me well for low ISO work:
http://flic.kr/p/5qriQm
http://flic.kr/p/77nC9G
http://flic.kr/p/6QQGK6

After my daughter was born I opened a separate flickr account for her and she is all I'm shooting. Most of it is indoors. Baby + flash is a bad combo and even in a brightly lit room D200 is almost useless without it. This is when I started looking for an upgrade and D700 seemed like a perfect candidate. I was about to buy it when a year ago a friend of mine asked me to shoot his wedding and I rented D3S with 85mm f1.4 for a couple days... Holy ISO!

With D800 release rumored to be right around the corner I decided to wait hoping that it would have D3S' sensor and have video capability. Short clips of your kid with no additional equipment to haul around - priceless. Well, I am still waiting.

Now it looks like Nikon decided to make a megapixel monster instead of a high iso prince. I'm gonna pass yet again. Sad.
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http://www.fotopropaganda.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9240992@N05/ (my pixel mess on flikr)
http://www.pbase.com/photopropaganda
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SiPat said:
The OP needs to read this:

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/cult+brands

Nikon will produce what it wants to produce when it thinks the time and circumstances are right. If a D800 does come about but is inferior to the D700 or D3 trio, it's not going to do Nikon's reputation any good.

As far as video is concerned, I can understand the desire for inter-changeable lenses, user-controlled aperture etc, etc -- the flexibility of dSLR in a videocam is mouth watering, but it's still only going to get you 1920x1080/30 at best.
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Really. How about 60!
SiPat said:
Anyone really really serious about video should be looking at some serious video equipment, maybe http://www.red.com/products .
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SiPat said:
Nikon will produce what it wants to produce when it thinks the time and circumstances are right. If a D800 does come about but is inferior to the D700 or D3 trio, it's not going to do Nikon's reputation any good.
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Why would Nikon produce a new model that is inferior to the predecessor?
 
Buy a D7000. I replaced mt D200 with a D7000 and had a significant upgrade for a pretty low price. You can always sell the D7000 next year and buy a D800 and get most of your money back. The "rental price" of the D7000 for 6-12 months would be cheap and you can use the same lenses.
 
If I wanted video, I would look into a dedicated Canon video camera.
For Still shooting, I love my D700.
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bob clearlight said:
If I wanted video, I would look into a dedicated Canon video camera.
For Still shooting, I love my D700.
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... of course if you wanted to create a video of a photo shoot, or a professional 'how-to' vid clip, or highlighting a product that you're trying to sell to be posted on the web, or included on a client's dvd then a dedicated video camera is over kill, an added expense, and often less convenient.

Clients seem to like clips of them being shot as well. Juggle a dedicated vid cam + dslr?I find using the tool that I already have in my hand, including the ability to use a myriad of lenses, a much better option than "juggling" extra equipment that I don't need... especially since I'm not shooting a feature film. :)

Your are right though- Canon makes great vid cams.

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teodorian2 said:
SiPat said:
Nikon will produce what it wants to produce when it thinks the time and circumstances are right. If a D800 does come about but is inferior to the D700 or D3 trio, it's not going to do Nikon's reputation any good.
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Why would Nikon produce a new model that is inferior to the predecessor?
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The point I am trying to make is that any replacement has to be superior to the predecessor. Hurrying up to satiate the thirst of a small number of whingers isn't going to help Nikon's reputation if the product turns out to be not as good as the previous version.
 
D3 & D700
don't care about film

Why do I sometimes read this nonsense?
A waste of my time

sigh...
 
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