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http://www.toshiba.ca/web/specifications.grp?lg=en&section=1&group=1&product=874&part=510

Processor
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz
CPU: Mobile Intel® Celeron® processor
Coprocessor: 400 MHz PSB

Cache: L1 Cache 12KB/8KB (instruction/data), L2 Cache 256KB

Memory
Standard: 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Maximum: 512MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Expansion Modules: 64MB, 128MB, 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM

BIOS ROM: 4Mbit capacity

Storage
Floppy Disk Drive: Built-in 1.44MB, 3.5" integrated

Optical Drive: Built-in CD-RW+DVD
Maximum speed: DVD-ROM (8x), CD-ROM (24x), write CD-RW (8X), ATAPI interface.

Hard Disk Drive: 20 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, Enhanced IDE, Access time 12ms read/12ms write

Display System
Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD Display
Size (Diagonal): 14.1" TFT
LCD Panel Resolution: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
External Support and Maximum Colour Support: 640 x 480 x 16.7 million colours
800 x 600 x 16.7 million colours
1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
1,280 x 1,024 x 65,536 colours
1,600 x 1,200 x 65,536 colours
Simultaneous Display Support: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours

Video

Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon. bit BLT Engine. 3D and 2D graphics accelerator. Simultaneous Display Capable. Open GL Support. Direct 3D support.

Video Memory: External 16MB DDR VRAM 143 MHz Bus clock speed
 
The 20gb drive is light by todays standards, you will need some sort of additional external storage. External drives are pretty cheap, 120gb is about $200. Verify that the USB ports are ver 2.0, not ver 1.1. Video mem is also thin at 16mb. P4's have 512kb L2 Cache, Celerons have 128kb L2 Cache(See Dell's website).
Justme said:
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/specifications.grp?lg=en §ion=1&group=1&product=874&part=510

Processor
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz
CPU: Mobile Intel® Celeron® processor
Coprocessor: 400 MHz PSB

Cache: L1 Cache 12KB/8KB (instruction/data), L2 Cache 256KB

Memory
Standard: 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Maximum: 512MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Expansion Modules: 64MB, 128MB, 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM

BIOS ROM: 4Mbit capacity

Storage
Floppy Disk Drive: Built-in 1.44MB, 3.5" integrated

Optical Drive: Built-in CD-RW+DVD
Maximum speed: DVD-ROM (8x), CD-ROM (24x), write CD-RW (8X), ATAPI
interface.
Hard Disk Drive: 20 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, Enhanced IDE,
Access time 12ms read/12ms write

Display System
Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD Display
Size (Diagonal): 14.1" TFT
LCD Panel Resolution: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
External Support and Maximum Colour Support: 640 x 480 x 16.7
million colours
800 x 600 x 16.7 million colours
1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
1,280 x 1,024 x 65,536 colours
1,600 x 1,200 x 65,536 colours
Simultaneous Display Support: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours

Video
Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon. bit BLT Engine. 3D and 2D
graphics accelerator. Simultaneous Display Capable. Open GL
Support. Direct 3D support.

Video Memory: External 16MB DDR VRAM 143 MHz Bus clock speed
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For basic operations it should be acceptable.

You will notice a few seconds of delay here and there as you do things like save a .PNG file, or add special effects.

The larger your picture sizes the longer the wait. I could use this machine with 3 and 4 megapixel images, but you will probably get tired of waiting for 5 or 6 megapixel images after a while.

For hard drive size, keep in mind that 1000 photos usually take between from 1-5 gigabytes.

Lastly upgrading to 512MB RAM would be helpful.

--
Lee Whitney
Photo Finale Programmer
http://www.photofinale.com
Justme said:
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/specifications.grp?lg=en §ion=1&group=1&product=874&part=510

Processor
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz
CPU: Mobile Intel® Celeron® processor
Coprocessor: 400 MHz PSB

Cache: L1 Cache 12KB/8KB (instruction/data), L2 Cache 256KB

Memory
Standard: 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Maximum: 512MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Expansion Modules: 64MB, 128MB, 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM

BIOS ROM: 4Mbit capacity

Storage
Floppy Disk Drive: Built-in 1.44MB, 3.5" integrated

Optical Drive: Built-in CD-RW+DVD
Maximum speed: DVD-ROM (8x), CD-ROM (24x), write CD-RW (8X), ATAPI
interface.
Hard Disk Drive: 20 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, Enhanced IDE,
Access time 12ms read/12ms write

Display System
Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD Display
Size (Diagonal): 14.1" TFT
LCD Panel Resolution: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
External Support and Maximum Colour Support: 640 x 480 x 16.7
million colours
800 x 600 x 16.7 million colours
1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
1,280 x 1,024 x 65,536 colours
1,600 x 1,200 x 65,536 colours
Simultaneous Display Support: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours

Video
Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon. bit BLT Engine. 3D and 2D
graphics accelerator. Simultaneous Display Capable. Open GL
Support. Direct 3D support.

Video Memory: External 16MB DDR VRAM 143 MHz Bus clock speed
Click to expand...
 
Thanks for the advice. Would 3-4 megapixel images load instantly or after a few seconds of delay? I know you mention some delay using special effects and saving .png files. Just how long would I be waiting when manipulating a 5-6 megapixel file? Would I notice some jerky type movement as I scroll across the picture?

Is the screen resolution OK?
Lee Whitney said:
You will notice a few seconds of delay here and there as you do
things like save a .PNG file, or add special effects.

The larger your picture sizes the longer the wait. I could use
this machine with 3 and 4 megapixel images, but you will probably
get tired of waiting for 5 or 6 megapixel images after a while.

For hard drive size, keep in mind that 1000 photos usually take
between from 1-5 gigabytes.

Lastly upgrading to 512MB RAM would be helpful.

--
Lee Whitney
Photo Finale Programmer
http://www.photofinale.com
Justme said:
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/specifications.grp?lg=en §ion=1&group=1&product=874&part=510

Processor
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz
CPU: Mobile Intel® Celeron® processor
Coprocessor: 400 MHz PSB

Cache: L1 Cache 12KB/8KB (instruction/data), L2 Cache 256KB

Memory
Standard: 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Maximum: 512MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Expansion Modules: 64MB, 128MB, 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM

BIOS ROM: 4Mbit capacity

Storage
Floppy Disk Drive: Built-in 1.44MB, 3.5" integrated

Optical Drive: Built-in CD-RW+DVD
Maximum speed: DVD-ROM (8x), CD-ROM (24x), write CD-RW (8X), ATAPI
interface.
Hard Disk Drive: 20 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, Enhanced IDE,
Access time 12ms read/12ms write

Display System
Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD Display
Size (Diagonal): 14.1" TFT
LCD Panel Resolution: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
External Support and Maximum Colour Support: 640 x 480 x 16.7
million colours
800 x 600 x 16.7 million colours
1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
1,280 x 1,024 x 65,536 colours
1,600 x 1,200 x 65,536 colours
Simultaneous Display Support: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours

Video
Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon. bit BLT Engine. 3D and 2D
graphics accelerator. Simultaneous Display Capable. Open GL
Support. Direct 3D support.

Video Memory: External 16MB DDR VRAM 143 MHz Bus clock speed
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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/driving_range
 
Your computer is better than mine, and I have been retouching pictures for months now and am quite satisfied. People go into an "upgrading frenzy" when doing something new on their pc. Just use what you got, and then if you need something more you'll know that.

The video card's memory is unimportant, since that memory is used for 3d applications and textures. I doubt photoshop supports opengl's and 3d acceleration. The high rated video cards some years ago had 4 megabite, and they were still perfect for pictures.

Your hard disk is not too big. However, you'll want to archive your pictures in a safer storage, so buying new hard disks won't solve the problem (they break easily, really!) I'd stick with the 20gb HD, because if you use 4 megapixel filling it will take some time, and then buy a DVDburner for safe storing of your pics. Remember to always make 2 copyes of each cd/dvd you burn, because those break too. A new DVD burner now is as cheap as 150-200$. In a few months with 200$ you'll get a very good one, one of those (i'm not sure about this, but these are specs I read on the net) that can store up to 9GB on a single DVD.
Justme said:
Is the screen resolution OK?
Lee Whitney said:
You will notice a few seconds of delay here and there as you do
things like save a .PNG file, or add special effects.

The larger your picture sizes the longer the wait. I could use
this machine with 3 and 4 megapixel images, but you will probably
get tired of waiting for 5 or 6 megapixel images after a while.

For hard drive size, keep in mind that 1000 photos usually take
between from 1-5 gigabytes.

Lastly upgrading to 512MB RAM would be helpful.

--
Lee Whitney
Photo Finale Programmer
http://www.photofinale.com
Justme said:
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/specifications.grp?lg=en §ion=1&group=1&product=874&part=510

Processor
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz
CPU: Mobile Intel® Celeron® processor
Coprocessor: 400 MHz PSB

Cache: L1 Cache 12KB/8KB (instruction/data), L2 Cache 256KB

Memory
Standard: 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Maximum: 512MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Expansion Modules: 64MB, 128MB, 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM

BIOS ROM: 4Mbit capacity

Storage
Floppy Disk Drive: Built-in 1.44MB, 3.5" integrated

Optical Drive: Built-in CD-RW+DVD
Maximum speed: DVD-ROM (8x), CD-ROM (24x), write CD-RW (8X), ATAPI
interface.
Hard Disk Drive: 20 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, Enhanced IDE,
Access time 12ms read/12ms write

Display System
Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD Display
Size (Diagonal): 14.1" TFT
LCD Panel Resolution: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
External Support and Maximum Colour Support: 640 x 480 x 16.7
million colours
800 x 600 x 16.7 million colours
1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
1,280 x 1,024 x 65,536 colours
1,600 x 1,200 x 65,536 colours
Simultaneous Display Support: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours

Video
Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon. bit BLT Engine. 3D and 2D
graphics accelerator. Simultaneous Display Capable. Open GL
Support. Direct 3D support.

Video Memory: External 16MB DDR VRAM 143 MHz Bus clock speed
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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/driving_range
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Justme said:
Thanks for the advice. Would 3-4 megapixel images load instantly
or after a few seconds of delay?
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To view the full image would take it would take 1 to 3 seconds. If you want to know more precisely you could test it at a store like Best Buy with a similar machine and your CD.
Justme said:
Just how long would I be waiting when manipulating a 5-6 megapixel file?
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Roughly 50% longer.
Justme said:
Would I notice some jerky type movement as I scroll across the picture?
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No. It just so happens that panning (scrolling) across an image is one of the easiest things for a computer to do. It would be smooth and instantaneous.
Justme said:
Is the screen resolution OK?
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I think the resolution is good considering the laptop will have only a 14" screen. 1024x768 reads nicely on that size screen.

As an example I have a Dell laptop with 1600x1200 resolution, but I set it much lower than this just because it's easier to read.

Regards,

Lee Whitney
Photo Finale Programmer
http://www.photofinale.com
Justme said:
Lee Whitney said:
You will notice a few seconds of delay here and there as you do
things like save a .PNG file, or add special effects.

The larger your picture sizes the longer the wait. I could use
this machine with 3 and 4 megapixel images, but you will probably
get tired of waiting for 5 or 6 megapixel images after a while.

For hard drive size, keep in mind that 1000 photos usually take
between from 1-5 gigabytes.

Lastly upgrading to 512MB RAM would be helpful.

--
Lee Whitney
Photo Finale Programmer
http://www.photofinale.com
Justme said:
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/specifications.grp?lg=en §ion=1&group=1&product=874&part=510

Processor
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz
CPU: Mobile Intel® Celeron® processor
Coprocessor: 400 MHz PSB

Cache: L1 Cache 12KB/8KB (instruction/data), L2 Cache 256KB

Memory
Standard: 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Maximum: 512MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Expansion Modules: 64MB, 128MB, 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM

BIOS ROM: 4Mbit capacity

Storage
Floppy Disk Drive: Built-in 1.44MB, 3.5" integrated

Optical Drive: Built-in CD-RW+DVD
Maximum speed: DVD-ROM (8x), CD-ROM (24x), write CD-RW (8X), ATAPI
interface.
Hard Disk Drive: 20 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, Enhanced IDE,
Access time 12ms read/12ms write

Display System
Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD Display
Size (Diagonal): 14.1" TFT
LCD Panel Resolution: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
External Support and Maximum Colour Support: 640 x 480 x 16.7
million colours
800 x 600 x 16.7 million colours
1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
1,280 x 1,024 x 65,536 colours
1,600 x 1,200 x 65,536 colours
Simultaneous Display Support: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours

Video
Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon. bit BLT Engine. 3D and 2D
graphics accelerator. Simultaneous Display Capable. Open GL
Support. Direct 3D support.

Video Memory: External 16MB DDR VRAM 143 MHz Bus clock speed
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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/driving_range
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Thanks again for the info. I was concerned about the image scrolling because I use do image editing on a Pentium I 166mhz and it was jerky on some big images.

Is that an error in the specs for this Toshiba Celeron notebook: L2 cache = 256mb? It's also on their website (link).
Lee Whitney said:
Lee Whitney121447 said:
Thanks for the advice. Would 3-4 megapixel images load instantly
or after a few seconds of delay?
Click to expand...
To view the full image would take it would take 1 to 3 seconds. If
you want to know more precisely you could test it at a store like
Best Buy with a similar machine and your CD.
Lee Whitney121447 said:
Just how long would I be waiting when manipulating a 5-6 megapixel file?
Click to expand...
Roughly 50% longer.
Lee Whitney121447 said:
Would I notice some jerky type movement as I scroll across the picture?
Click to expand...
No. It just so happens that panning (scrolling) across an image is
one of the easiest things for a computer to do. It would be smooth
and instantaneous.
Lee Whitney121447 said:
Is the screen resolution OK?
Click to expand...
I think the resolution is good considering the laptop will have
only a 14" screen. 1024x768 reads nicely on that size screen.

As an example I have a Dell laptop with 1600x1200 resolution, but I
set it much lower than this just because it's easier to read.

Regards,

Lee Whitney
Photo Finale Programmer
http://www.photofinale.com
Justme said:
Lee Whitney said:
You will notice a few seconds of delay here and there as you do
things like save a .PNG file, or add special effects.

The larger your picture sizes the longer the wait. I could use
this machine with 3 and 4 megapixel images, but you will probably
get tired of waiting for 5 or 6 megapixel images after a while.

For hard drive size, keep in mind that 1000 photos usually take
between from 1-5 gigabytes.

Lastly upgrading to 512MB RAM would be helpful.

--
Lee Whitney
Photo Finale Programmer
http://www.photofinale.com
Justme said:
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/specifications.grp?lg=en §ion=1&group=1&product=874&part=510

Processor
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz
CPU: Mobile Intel® Celeron® processor
Coprocessor: 400 MHz PSB

Cache: L1 Cache 12KB/8KB (instruction/data), L2 Cache 256KB

Memory
Standard: 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Maximum: 512MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Expansion Modules: 64MB, 128MB, 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM

BIOS ROM: 4Mbit capacity

Storage
Floppy Disk Drive: Built-in 1.44MB, 3.5" integrated

Optical Drive: Built-in CD-RW+DVD
Maximum speed: DVD-ROM (8x), CD-ROM (24x), write CD-RW (8X), ATAPI
interface.
Hard Disk Drive: 20 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, Enhanced IDE,
Access time 12ms read/12ms write

Display System
Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD Display
Size (Diagonal): 14.1" TFT
LCD Panel Resolution: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
External Support and Maximum Colour Support: 640 x 480 x 16.7
million colours
800 x 600 x 16.7 million colours
1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
1,280 x 1,024 x 65,536 colours
1,600 x 1,200 x 65,536 colours
Simultaneous Display Support: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours

Video
Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon. bit BLT Engine. 3D and 2D
graphics accelerator. Simultaneous Display Capable. Open GL
Support. Direct 3D support.

Video Memory: External 16MB DDR VRAM 143 MHz Bus clock speed
Click to expand...
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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/driving_range
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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/driving_range
 
Thanks for the info. I see this Toshiba has CD-RW but no CD-R. I wonder why (less expensive would be a guess). The notebook will be a secondary computer for me. My workhorse is the P4 desktop from Dell.
Simone M. Navarra said:
The video card's memory is unimportant, since that memory is used
for 3d applications and textures. I doubt photoshop supports
opengl's and 3d acceleration. The high rated video cards some years
ago had 4 megabite, and they were still perfect for pictures.

Your hard disk is not too big. However, you'll want to archive your
pictures in a safer storage, so buying new hard disks won't solve
the problem (they break easily, really!) I'd stick with the 20gb
HD, because if you use 4 megapixel filling it will take some time,
and then buy a DVDburner for safe storing of your pics. Remember to
always make 2 copyes of each cd/dvd you burn, because those break
too. A new DVD burner now is as cheap as 150-200$. In a few months
with 200$ you'll get a very good one, one of those (i'm not sure
about this, but these are specs I read on the net) that can store
up to 9GB on a single DVD.
Justme said:
Is the screen resolution OK?
Lee Whitney said:
You will notice a few seconds of delay here and there as you do
things like save a .PNG file, or add special effects.

The larger your picture sizes the longer the wait. I could use
this machine with 3 and 4 megapixel images, but you will probably
get tired of waiting for 5 or 6 megapixel images after a while.

For hard drive size, keep in mind that 1000 photos usually take
between from 1-5 gigabytes.

Lastly upgrading to 512MB RAM would be helpful.

--
Lee Whitney
Photo Finale Programmer
http://www.photofinale.com
Justme said:
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/specifications.grp?lg=en §ion=1&group=1&product=874&part=510

Processor
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz
CPU: Mobile Intel® Celeron® processor
Coprocessor: 400 MHz PSB

Cache: L1 Cache 12KB/8KB (instruction/data), L2 Cache 256KB

Memory
Standard: 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Maximum: 512MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Expansion Modules: 64MB, 128MB, 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM

BIOS ROM: 4Mbit capacity

Storage
Floppy Disk Drive: Built-in 1.44MB, 3.5" integrated

Optical Drive: Built-in CD-RW+DVD
Maximum speed: DVD-ROM (8x), CD-ROM (24x), write CD-RW (8X), ATAPI
interface.
Hard Disk Drive: 20 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, Enhanced IDE,
Access time 12ms read/12ms write

Display System
Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD Display
Size (Diagonal): 14.1" TFT
LCD Panel Resolution: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
External Support and Maximum Colour Support: 640 x 480 x 16.7
million colours
800 x 600 x 16.7 million colours
1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
1,280 x 1,024 x 65,536 colours
1,600 x 1,200 x 65,536 colours
Simultaneous Display Support: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours

Video
Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon. bit BLT Engine. 3D and 2D
graphics accelerator. Simultaneous Display Capable. Open GL
Support. Direct 3D support.

Video Memory: External 16MB DDR VRAM 143 MHz Bus clock speed
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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/driving_range
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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/driving_range
 
Thanks. So, with this new 0.13 Mobile Celeron it narrows the gap between it and the P4 right? One of the complaints about earlier Celerons was that it was intentionally made less capable compared to the P4 due to less onboard cache (L2), etc. Would you say, based on the specs for the 1.8 Celeron that it is as capable as the P4 1.8 for image editing?
Hyperfish said:
Justme said:
Thanks again for the info. I was concerned about the image
scrolling because I use do image editing on a Pentium I 166mhz and
it was jerky on some big images.

Is that an error in the specs for this Toshiba Celeron notebook:
L2 cache = 256mb? It's also on their website (link).
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IF it's a boxed Mobile Celeron .13m:

http://program.intel.com/shared/products/processors/mobile/celeron/mceleron_brief.pdf
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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/driving_range
 
Justme said:
Thanks. So, with this new 0.13 Mobile Celeron it narrows the gap
between it and the P4 right? One of the complaints about earlier
Celerons was that it was intentionally made less capable compared
to the P4 due to less onboard cache (L2), etc. Would you say,
based on the specs for the 1.8 Celeron that it is as capable as the
P4 1.8 for image editing?
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256KB L2 vs. 512KB L2, 400FSB vs. 533FSB, dig into the Developer specs I believe the data prefetch is different, etc.

It IS better than older 128KB L2 .18m versions, but it's still "half" of a P4 Northwood, Mobile or Desktop.

If the price spread is
 
Thanks for clearing that up. This particular Toshiba notebook is selling at FutureShop (Canada) for $1,499 Cdn. A darn good price. A similar featured P4 is around $2,000+ Cdn.
Hyperfish said:
Justme said:
Thanks. So, with this new 0.13 Mobile Celeron it narrows the gap
between it and the P4 right? One of the complaints about earlier
Celerons was that it was intentionally made less capable compared
to the P4 due to less onboard cache (L2), etc. Would you say,
based on the specs for the 1.8 Celeron that it is as capable as the
P4 1.8 for image editing?
Click to expand...
256KB L2 vs. 512KB L2, 400FSB vs. 533FSB, dig into the Developer
specs I believe the data prefetch is different, etc.

It IS better than older 128KB L2 .18m versions, but it's still
"half" of a P4 Northwood, Mobile or Desktop.

If the price spread is
at any given speed you'll certainly see it returned on resale
value...
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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/driving_range
 
What you think about this one? You can get it under $1500

Leo

Model
PCV-W10

• Display
15.3" LCD Wide Aspect Ratio
WXGA (1280x768)

• Processor
Intel® Celeron® 1.60GHz†

• Cache Memory
128KB Integrated On-Die Level 2

• Front Side Bus Speed
400 MHz

• Standard RAM
512MB PC-2100 DDR (expandable to 1GB)

• Hard Drive
60GB†† Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive

• CD-RW / DVD-ROM Combo Drive
CD-RW (16X max. write 10X max. rewrite / 24X max. read)
DVD-ROM (8X max. DVD-ROM Read)

• Video & Graphics
SIS650 Integrated Graphics with Real256™
2D/3D Graphics Accelerator
32MB Shared Graphics Memory (64MB Max.)

• Ethernet
10Base-T/100Base-TX Fast Ethernet

• Modem
V.90 compatible data/fax modem

• Expansion Slots
Two PCMCIA Type-II Card Slots
Memory Stick® Media Slot

• Port Connectors
USB 2.0 (One Used for Mouse)
One Line In
Two 4pin i.LINK™
One Headphone / One Microphone

• Supplied Accessories
Speakers (Stereo) built in
VAIO Smart™ Keyboard
USB Optical Wheel Mouse

• Power Requirements
100-120V -3A (50/60Hz)

• Power Management
ACPI 1.0 Compliant

• Dimensions (Unit)
Keyboard Open 19.17" (W) x 10.28" (H) x 13.15" (D)
Keyboard Closed 19.17" (W) x 10.95" (H) x 7.52(D)

• Weight (CPU)
20.95 lbs.

• SONY Original Software
PictureGear Studio™ - Digital Photo
DVgate™ - Digital Video
SonicStage™ - Music
MovieShaker™ - Digital Video
Network Smart Capture - Video Webcast
VAIO Media™ - Network File Sharing

• Operating System
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
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• Other Software Applications
Adobe® Premiere® LE
Corel WordPerfect® Office 2002
Wordperfect ® - Word Processing
Quattro Pro® - Spreadsheet
Corel® Presentations™ - Slide Show Creation
CorelCENTRAL™ - Personal Info Manager
Intuit Quicken® 20022
Adobe® Photoshop® Elements
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader®
Apple QuickTime®
Microsoft® Outlook® Express
RealNetworks® RealOne ™ Player
Hyperfish said:
Justme said:
Thanks for clearing that up. This particular Toshiba notebook is
selling at FutureShop (Canada) for $1,499 Cdn. A darn good price.
A similar featured P4 is around $2,000+ Cdn.
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NP-

That's a pretty hefty price spread, might be better to toss an
extra 256MB SODIMM of DDR in:
http://www.crucial.com/store/PartSpecs.asp?imodule=CT3264X265&cat=RAM



Good luck!
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Leo G. said:
What you think about this one? You can get it under $1500

Leo

Model
PCV-W10

• Display
15.3" LCD Wide Aspect Ratio
WXGA (1280x768)

• Processor
Intel® Celeron® 1.60GHz†

• Cache Memory
128KB Integrated On-Die Level 2

• Front Side Bus Speed
400 MHz

• Standard RAM
512MB PC-2100 DDR (expandable to 1GB)

• Hard Drive
60GB†† Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive

• CD-RW / DVD-ROM Combo Drive
CD-RW (16X max. write 10X max. rewrite / 24X max. read)
DVD-ROM (8X max. DVD-ROM Read)

• Video & Graphics
SIS650 Integrated Graphics with Real256™
2D/3D Graphics Accelerator
32MB Shared Graphics Memory (64MB Max.)

• Ethernet
10Base-T/100Base-TX Fast Ethernet

• Modem
V.90 compatible data/fax modem

• Expansion Slots
Two PCMCIA Type-II Card Slots
Memory Stick® Media Slot

• Port Connectors
USB 2.0 (One Used for Mouse)
One Line In
Two 4pin i.LINK™
One Headphone / One Microphone

• Supplied Accessories
Speakers (Stereo) built in
VAIO Smart™ Keyboard
USB Optical Wheel Mouse

• Power Requirements
100-120V -3A (50/60Hz)

• Power Management
ACPI 1.0 Compliant

• Dimensions (Unit)
Keyboard Open 19.17" (W) x 10.28" (H) x 13.15" (D)
Keyboard Closed 19.17" (W) x 10.95" (H) x 7.52(D)

• Weight (CPU)
20.95 lbs.

• SONY Original Software
PictureGear Studio™ - Digital Photo
DVgate™ - Digital Video
SonicStage™ - Music
MovieShaker™ - Digital Video
Network Smart Capture - Video Webcast
VAIO Media™ - Network File Sharing

• Operating System
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Sony PCs use Genuine Microsoft®
Windows® Operating Systems
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/howtotell

• Other Software Applications
Adobe® Premiere® LE
Corel WordPerfect® Office 2002
Wordperfect ® - Word Processing
Quattro Pro® - Spreadsheet
Corel® Presentations™ - Slide Show Creation
CorelCENTRAL™ - Personal Info Manager
Intuit Quicken® 20022
Adobe® Photoshop® Elements
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader®
Apple QuickTime®
Microsoft® Outlook® Express
RealNetworks® RealOne ™ Player
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A whole lotta fluff to hide the weak proc, Leo....

Try here:
http://www.stores.ebay.com/ibm

This one would kill it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2078502987
 
The hardware is more than adequate. The Windows OS is also an important consideration. I prefer Windows 2k Pro latest SPack.

You may see out of memory errors on XP.

Stan Mlynek
Partner-Developer, Aunt Abigail Software, http://www.AuntAbigail.com
Justme said:
http://www.toshiba.ca/web/specifications.grp?lg=en §ion=1&group=1&product=874&part=510

Processor
Clock Speed: 1.8 GHz
CPU: Mobile Intel® Celeron® processor
Coprocessor: 400 MHz PSB

Cache: L1 Cache 12KB/8KB (instruction/data), L2 Cache 256KB

Memory
Standard: 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Maximum: 512MB PC1600 DDR RAM
Expansion Modules: 64MB, 128MB, 256MB PC1600 DDR RAM

BIOS ROM: 4Mbit capacity

Storage
Floppy Disk Drive: Built-in 1.44MB, 3.5" integrated

Optical Drive: Built-in CD-RW+DVD
Maximum speed: DVD-ROM (8x), CD-ROM (24x), write CD-RW (8X), ATAPI
interface.
Hard Disk Drive: 20 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, Enhanced IDE,
Access time 12ms read/12ms write

Display System
Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD Display
Size (Diagonal): 14.1" TFT
LCD Panel Resolution: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
External Support and Maximum Colour Support: 640 x 480 x 16.7
million colours
800 x 600 x 16.7 million colours
1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours
1,280 x 1,024 x 65,536 colours
1,600 x 1,200 x 65,536 colours
Simultaneous Display Support: 1,024 x 768 x 16.7 million colours

Video
Graphics Controller: ATI Mobility Radeon. bit BLT Engine. 3D and 2D
graphics accelerator. Simultaneous Display Capable. Open GL
Support. Direct 3D support.

Video Memory: External 16MB DDR VRAM 143 MHz Bus clock speed
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FYI:

I just picked up Toshiba S103 laptop from Microcenter in Cincinnati OH for $900 plus $200 rebate from Toshiba. It has Pentium Cel 1.8, 256MB, 14.1 TFT, 20GB. XP home. DVD drive (no CD-RW).

Best buy has the same but requires 2 rebates, not just one.

The CD-RW is not an important issues because one can buy an external drive now (Firewire and/or USB 2.0) for about $180. I just read about the new Yamaha 40X external with both Firewire and USB 20, it can also burn the title and label right onto the disk (no more label needed).

The Toshiba comes w 3 USB 1.1 but upgrading to USB 2.0 is relatively simple with an added PMCIA card for Firewire or USB 2.0.
 
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