Davidgilmour
Senior Member
Can the bad autofocus problem of the X100 be fixed with a firmware update?
If they throw in face detection as well, problem is solved?
If they throw in face detection as well, problem is solved?
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Autofocus and face detection
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Paulo Abreu
Veteran Member
Hi,
Ps: Once you get X100 you will know this
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There is no bad autofocus problem with X100 - you are miss informed.
X100 owners don't want a camera that decides for them where to focus
Ps: Once you get X100 you will know this
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Switch12345
Well-known member
Truth is...
I love my camera, but would like Face detection......
I take my camera with me everywhere.....
It seems like when I am with my family...someone will always ask...."How about I take a picture of you ?"
If I let them...and even if I explain how the focus works...I get a blurry picture....
If I tell them NO I do not want a picture they get insulted....
It would be nice to be able to put on Face Detection for those moments !
People are so spoiled ..they don't know how to use a camera anymore...
Kinda sad..but true
I love my camera, but would like Face detection......
I take my camera with me everywhere.....
It seems like when I am with my family...someone will always ask...."How about I take a picture of you ?"
If I let them...and even if I explain how the focus works...I get a blurry picture....
If I tell them NO I do not want a picture they get insulted....
It would be nice to be able to put on Face Detection for those moments !
People are so spoiled ..they don't know how to use a camera anymore...
Kinda sad..but true
Brooks Lester
Senior Member
Anyone who rejects the value of Face Detection and Face Recognition technologies for people photography is in full denial of both their usefulness and effectiveness.
I own a Nikon D700, Panasonic GF-1, LX5, LX3, ZS3, and Fuji X100. Even though the D700 has much faster autofocus than any of the other bodies, the GF-1 and LX5, set for Face Recognition, are at least as reliable as the D700 for achieving sharp focus on my subjects when shooting candids. The GF-1 and LX5 even properly choose the nearest eye for critical focus, allowing the shooter to concentrate on the scene and subject rather than placing focus marks. All of this can be achieved when holding the camera away from the eye, which is a very useful technique when shooting candids, especially of children.
"X100 owners don't want a camera that decides for them where to focus
Ps: Once you get X100 you will know this"
Rubbish -- how can the poster of this quote know exactly what every X100 owner wants? Certainly some of us wish that Face Detection/Recognition was a feature of the X100.
I actually would like the X100 to recognize a face in my frame and focus on that face. If a user does not wish to use this feature, they can certainly use one of the other focus modes. After arriving at Auto Focus several decades ago, what is wrong with refining it to detect and focus on faces automatically, when desired? Photography isn't supposed to be a contest of machismo, its supposed to be about getting great images.
I own a Nikon D700, Panasonic GF-1, LX5, LX3, ZS3, and Fuji X100. Even though the D700 has much faster autofocus than any of the other bodies, the GF-1 and LX5, set for Face Recognition, are at least as reliable as the D700 for achieving sharp focus on my subjects when shooting candids. The GF-1 and LX5 even properly choose the nearest eye for critical focus, allowing the shooter to concentrate on the scene and subject rather than placing focus marks. All of this can be achieved when holding the camera away from the eye, which is a very useful technique when shooting candids, especially of children.
"X100 owners don't want a camera that decides for them where to focus
Ps: Once you get X100 you will know this"
Rubbish -- how can the poster of this quote know exactly what every X100 owner wants? Certainly some of us wish that Face Detection/Recognition was a feature of the X100.
I actually would like the X100 to recognize a face in my frame and focus on that face. If a user does not wish to use this feature, they can certainly use one of the other focus modes. After arriving at Auto Focus several decades ago, what is wrong with refining it to detect and focus on faces automatically, when desired? Photography isn't supposed to be a contest of machismo, its supposed to be about getting great images.
Davidgilmour
Senior Member
I own a X100. Why are so many of my puctures out of focus then? And why is everybody on this forum complaining here? Or are they just trolls?
Smebody even has to use a flashlight to help the x100 focus. Or turn the camera vertically! Oh, the irony!
Jeff Charles
Veteran Member
They are not trolls, but some of us are not having the same problems with the X100's AF. One possibility that hasn't been discussed much is that the X100 does not have a focus-priority mode, so it will fire even if focus has not been acquired. You have to wait for the focus frame to turn green before taking the shot. (In good light, that's not always necessary.)
I never had to do that, even in low light.
That is rarely required, because most objects have both horizontal and vertical components. It is a good trick to know for subjects that have only horizontal lines.
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Jeff
My cat, who likes to sprawl on my keyboard, gets the credit for anything I write that makes sense.
Well done!
It's a combination of a focus system which isn't up to 2011 standards and an operator who isn't up to 2000 standards.
See explanation above.
Some, not all.
Smebody is very eccentric. Most of use use candles, in keeping with the retro stylings.
Are you from New Zealand by any chance?
Eh? Are you Alanis Morriset by any chance?
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I would like face detection as an option.
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Mick Cantarella
Well-known member
Shine a maglite (small flashlight) in your subject's face to help camera focus in low light. Laugh if you will, it's very tacky, but really works.
eastvillager
Senior Member
Sad commentary on this camera if you're serious.
Kung Pao Panda
Veteran Member
Better yet, wear a headlamp. Hands free.
Like others here, I suffer from chronic GAS.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
a few hundred nautical miles SW : 17º 52S, 149º 56W
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Like others here, I suffer from chronic GAS.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
a few hundred nautical miles SW : 17º 52S, 149º 56W
Davidgilmour
Senior Member
Shouldn't Fuji include one for free until they fix the bad autofocus in the new firmware?
Why don't they ask some Olympus guys how to write autofocus firmware?
The camera does have an onboard light. Works for me. But of course a flashlight is more powerful, or indeed a video light is good too. A lot of wedding photogs use video lights instead of flash anyway these days.
I'm sure Olympus would e happy to share their AF algorithms, and their chips too.
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rattymouse
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My X100 is easily the worst autofocusing camera I have ever owned, or even used. It is not unuseablely bad, but it is far far from being as good as an average camera.
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ray-ray
Well-known member
I'm probably over-simplifying what I think is an over-exaggerated auto-focus issue. Probably ½ of my initial photos with the X100 were out-of-focus, but I started noticing what it was that caused them to focus properly. As mentioned in one of the above posts, you just have to press the shutter button ½ way and allow the camera to focus... the red box turns green and I'm getting great shots now. I was guilty of pointing & shooting thinking I had a focused shot because the camera would fire. In fact, the X100 fires focused or not and that'll mislead you into thinking everything's setup ok. Anyway, it works for me. I'm getting better shots than I'd been getting with my Nikon D80.
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rattymouse
Guest
In anything less than perfect light, my red box stays red. No focus can be achieved. Maybe after 5 or 6 tries I might get focus. Or I might not. Not at all what I expect from a $1400 camera.
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why are you so damn arrogant? is your IQ closed to 220 or just have three testicles?
Davidgilmour
Senior Member
Have you tried to use an external flashlight? Or turning your X100 vertically? Or using and external flashlight AND turning your X100 vertically? It might work because as you read here in this thread the X100 does not have a problem with autofocusing!
eastvillager
Senior Member
Beware. Bringing up the topic of the awful auto focus will bring the wrath of the creepy fanboys down on you.
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rattymouse
Guest
I have just started trying to shoot vertically when the auto focus fails. Seems better but too early to say exactly.
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