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Hi Cytokine,

I like it very much and it's the kind of rose I prefer !

Good composition for me ... just one thing, perhaps it could have been a little bit sharper?
But Thanks, I enjoy!

Philippe
 
Suiteki said:
sharper,in fact I mean more focused on the rosebud?
Sure, 2.8 doesn't give a lot of DOF
Best!

Philippe
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Thanks Philippe,

I agree about focussing on the rosebud, would have been better use of the narrow DOF.

Like you I love this type of rose, and this one still has twenty buds+

John
 
The D200 does have a propensity for producing soft images.

Aside from that, good image though.
 
John

Very nice image,I to still like my D200, I have at times thought of selling it but I see photos taken with one and I say to myself thats why I still like it, and just like the colors, I use a 17 50 2.8 and 70 300vr on mine with trips to zoo I use a 80 200 2.8.
Thanks for sharing, will look for more in future.

Rubicon:
 
I do prefer rpps repost.

But also then the stems/branches in upper right corner need to be burned/darkened in some so as to not distract from the pink.
cary
 
rubicon said:
John

Very nice image,I to still like my D200, I have at times thought of selling it but I see photos taken with one and I say to myself thats why I still like it, and just like the colors, I use a 17 50 2.8 and 70 300vr on mine with trips to zoo I use a 80 200 2.8.
Thanks for sharing, will look for more in future.

Rubicon:
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Thanks Rubicon,

Like you I love the colours from this camera and I very rarely use anything above base ISO, so the D200 is the one for me.

John
 
rpps said:


Nicely composed shot I thinks it needed to be a little brighter , like this.
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Thanks Rpps,

While my 17 inch laptop screen is WUXGA and the colours are Fab, Just moving my head slightly changes the contrast so difficult to be too precise. I do like quite dark backgrounds, as Carey says it puts the emphasis on the subject. I had not thought of darkening the background only with the burn tool. However I usually like to keep PP as simple as possible, the D200 colours are usually spot on, so I add a little unsharp mask, and thats it. I usually use matrix metering mode but I think this was taken with spot metering.

John
 

Cytokine said:
While my 17 inch laptop screen is WUXGA and the colours are Fab, Just moving my head slightly changes the contrast so difficult to be too precise. I do like quite dark backgrounds, as Carey says it puts the emphasis on the subject. I had not thought of darkening the background only with the burn tool. However I usually like to keep PP as simple as possible, the D200 colours are usually spot on, so I add a little unsharp mask, and thats it. I usually use matrix metering mode but I think this was taken with spot metering.

John
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Hi John I understand what your saying about your monitor screen, I have the same problem with my Dell 23" TN monitor. I have bought 2 monitors to replace it one was a new IPS Screen but the anti glare coating made my photos look pixelated. At least the old Dell now calibrated gives accurate colours now and photos look smooth with no grain. I try not to alter the original out of the camera too much maybe just use Highlight and Shadow tool and if the photo needs it Topaz Denoise. I was using unsharp tool until I saw the results on an IPS screen, the image looked terrible. Now I use Vivid setting on my D300s and knock down the saturation by -1, or Standard with +6 Sharpness and +1 Contrast. I would be interested in what picture control setting you use.
Here's my latest edit keeping in mind you want darker background.
Cheers Ross
 
Firstly the original with colour gentle burn on the background to isolate the subject:



Another shot of the same rose bush:



Same shot with significant burn:



And one more without burn:



John
 
rpps said:

rpps said:
While my 17 inch laptop screen is WUXGA and the colours are Fab, Just moving my head slightly changes the contrast so difficult to be too precise. I do like quite dark backgrounds, as Carey says it puts the emphasis on the subject. I had not thought of darkening the background only with the burn tool. However I usually like to keep PP as simple as possible, the D200 colours are usually spot on, so I add a little unsharp mask, and thats it. I usually use matrix metering mode but I think this was taken with spot metering.

John
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Here's my latest edit keeping in mind you want darker background.
Cheers Ross
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Hi Ross,

On my monitor the background is nice and dark but the pink no longer looks natural.

The settings I use on the D200 were set up from moose petersons recommended settings, but not sure which of them are applicable to Raw as I never use Jpeg.

John
 
cary smith said:
I do prefer rpps repost.

But also then the stems/branches in upper right corner need to be burned/darkened in some so as to not distract from the pink.
cary
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Thanks Cary,

I have tried using the burn tool in Photoshop, but cant decide if I like my skill with it. I think with some masking and gentle application it could be useful on occasions.

John
 
Hi John,

interesting exchange and beautiful roses. It makes you want to smell them..

As for the shot with/without burn it seems it has the focus slightly past the rose’s centre and would be looking better if it was there imo. Gently captured and treated. - I like the bright version adjustment.

Thanks for sharing,

Hynek

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HSway said:
Hi John,

interesting exchange and beautiful roses. It makes you want to smell them..

As for the shot with/without burn it seems it has the focus slightly past the rose’s centre and would be looking better if it was there imo. Gently captured and treated. - I like the bright version adjustment.

Thanks for sharing,

Hynek
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Thanks Hynek,

The only problem with the 50mm 1.4D is that to get close enough is always on the limit of closest focal point. That and its narrow DOF, makes it not very forgiving.

John
 
When I look at this, I'm not sure which to look at: the rose or the leaves. I'm sure your intended subject is the rose, but you've included all of those 2 leaves which in my opinion divides this image in half. I suggest overlaying a 4:5 frame which will cut off some of the leaves.

And don't wait for rain to take this kind of photo, supply your own water to a dry object. :)
 
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