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Has SAR set expectations too high for the A77?
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fjbyrne
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Possibly but they need to provide a compelling reason to choose a Sony over a Canon or Nikon. Perhaps the A77's SLT design will be enough for many. SLT + lower price would attract even more buyers IMO.
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winedarksea
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winedarksea
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Never, because SAR is more right than wrong. Though the rumors Andrea publishes are sometimes wrong, it is true. And things change as well.
It seems to me that Andrea does a better job for us than the similar sites do for Canikon & other brands.. But what he publishes are projections based on the incomplete information someone has, with his (Andrea's) own estimate as to its accuracy, based on the past accuracy of the specific source(s). Any such statement should be taken with an accompaniment of more than a little salt, but they at least give us, cumulatively, an excellent broad-brush picture of the cameras that are coming. I expect some but not many discrepancies with what he us saying.
As to those saying just take what comes when it comes, where would we be with such an attitude? Still swinging through trees, perhaps? or hunting ants with sticks? We are humans because we speculate on the future, as well as on the space beyond the horizon, and plan for it accordingly.
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winedarksea
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And what's wrong with that> Informed opinion is what energizes our lives, day after day.
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winedarksea
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Chad, I believe that SAR, in its SR4/5 rumors, is much more often right than wrong, but I take every statement, even official statements from any camera company, to say nothing of a rumor from a rumor site, with a grain of salt, with scepticism. And i have been amused of late as to just how literally some have taken SAR's rumors to be fact, as delivered by Sony Itself.
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DulaneyAnd what's wrong with that> Informed opinion is what energizes our lives, day after day.
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Have you heard any news from your friend Gustav?
He one of the beta testers?
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ck3
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Thousands? Millions!
winedarksea
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These are quotes from people who have tested the camera. Do you really believe that Andrea should tone down the language official testers used about the camera? I for one am very happy to have such human responses as a means I might use to temper my own speculation about the camera.
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winedarksea
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I have heard he has perhaps been testing the A77 & perhaps even the 500 f4, but he has so far not told me anything about it, even that he is doing the testing. I understand that he has recently been on vacation in France, perhaps taking pictures of gryphon vultures in the gorges of the Midi, perhaps with this combo. But this is purely speculation, since Sony has him under very tight wraps, it appears.DulaneyAnd what's wrong with that> Informed opinion is what energizes our lives, day after day.
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Have you heard any news from your friend Gustav?
He one of the beta testers?
I presume that he is in fact a tester, or has been. Sony would be silly not to get him to test this combo. I anxiously await his comments, which will come when he can make them.
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Marti58
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and other things anyhow have * patience* and time will tell the true.
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Nothing's wrong with that but the thread is about high expectations and then being disappointed.
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OldClicker
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SR1 or SR5?
SAR is fun. Anyone who worries about it should ignore it or buy a ouiga board.
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I think the problem is SAR has become the de facto info site for up and coming Sony product info due to lack of anyone else doing it.
Unfortunately there's too much 'emotional' posts and there doesn't seem to be all that much research into the info, other than a few anonymous sources corroborating the info.
I personally prefer a rumor site such as macrumors. Though not always accurate they present info and state where the info comes from whether it's Mr X or a Bloomberg etc. You can then make up your own mind rather rely on the site author's ratings.
So the credibility of SAR is what it is. Those that are overwhelmed and become emotionally attached to the info presented with probably do so for any info presented from any source. Don't blame the site, blame the readers that don't critically evaluate that info.
Unfortunately there's too much 'emotional' posts and there doesn't seem to be all that much research into the info, other than a few anonymous sources corroborating the info.
I personally prefer a rumor site such as macrumors. Though not always accurate they present info and state where the info comes from whether it's Mr X or a Bloomberg etc. You can then make up your own mind rather rely on the site author's ratings.
So the credibility of SAR is what it is. Those that are overwhelmed and become emotionally attached to the info presented with probably do so for any info presented from any source. Don't blame the site, blame the readers that don't critically evaluate that info.
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Exactly.
I think the rumor sites are great for the entertainment value they offer. But until Sony (or whoever) actually make an official announcement about a product, it's just vaporware.
Just don't be too disappointed if the final product differs from what SAR has been pushing.
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Well look at the results for the A77, how many things are right in the end?
They changed the price tree times, we don't know what price is right in the end Sony will tellus when they are showing us the final product. So what price Sony come with, SAR is more wrong then right on that. If the rumors on SAR are wrong they are wrong, no matter from who they come.
Yes but did you read some of the reactions here. People are very disapointed that the new rumors of the camera are different then former rumors. They take the rumors as fact.
I don't understand this last remark. You think we evolved by reading and believing rumors? Yes we don't have to take everything for granted. Yes we may think ahead and trynew things. But we have to be very carefull with any rumor....
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cgarrard
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Andrea is an enthusiastic person in general.
Sony initially set the bar very high based on comments they made about the A700 replacement. Add in the dreadful wait for a replacement and the publics expectations of advancements based on such a long replacement cycle/advancements in the industry, and the bar goes through the roof.
Andrea has good reason to be enthusiastic, he's getting real info leaked to him for free (I assume), and that helps his site grow and prosper.
Put yourself in his shoes. You are getting info often that others in this idustry aren't getting (or they are and not saying anything), you aren't under an NDA to keep it quiet, and you run a rumor site. Any news he gets that is legitimate is kind of exciting to share, don't you think?
On the other hand, all that doesn't really effect my view on the A7X camera coming. The wait killed any excitement for me, as does news that trickles out before it actually gets announced.
I'm the kind of guy that doesn't like to know what my christmas present is going to be before I open it. I like that it's wrapped and mysterious. All the leaks in the industry are worse than ever and in my opinion only hurt the industry instead of help it (in the long run, not the short run).
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Sony initially set the bar very high based on comments they made about the A700 replacement. Add in the dreadful wait for a replacement and the publics expectations of advancements based on such a long replacement cycle/advancements in the industry, and the bar goes through the roof.
Andrea has good reason to be enthusiastic, he's getting real info leaked to him for free (I assume), and that helps his site grow and prosper.
Put yourself in his shoes. You are getting info often that others in this idustry aren't getting (or they are and not saying anything), you aren't under an NDA to keep it quiet, and you run a rumor site. Any news he gets that is legitimate is kind of exciting to share, don't you think?
On the other hand, all that doesn't really effect my view on the A7X camera coming. The wait killed any excitement for me, as does news that trickles out before it actually gets announced.
I'm the kind of guy that doesn't like to know what my christmas present is going to be before I open it. I like that it's wrapped and mysterious. All the leaks in the industry are worse than ever and in my opinion only hurt the industry instead of help it (in the long run, not the short run).
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