I mean, I have friends...
Now you actually make the statement that the N* "comes pretty close to an SLR?
Face it Dave, you're just an old curmudgeon who loves to vilify any new technologies. In a past century, you would have been the crazy old man who would have bemoaned people putting telephones in their homes. You would have been saying, "Why would I want a telephone in my house? If I wanted to make a telephone call, I would walk down to the local general store and use their public telephone! If people want to reach me, they can send me a letter or a telegraph! These crazy telephone gizmos are going to fry people's brains and turn society into a world of zombies out of a science fiction comic book!" LOL.T3 demands that I not watch these people in person. Rather I should watch them on a Web Cam. From a distance, where humnan emotion and expression is simply not there. Where in fact there is no human connection. His refusal to even consider my suggestion speaks for itself.
Are Smart Phones "tools" or a life style? You seem to realise that they are tools. T3 is advocating a life style. One in which, even when you have to opportunity to live in the real world, it's best to watch a Web Cam...
Dave
To call someone a Luddite, while communicating with them on the Internet, on a forum discussing the latest technology? Where all the participants discuss the most up to date gear?Face it Dave, you're just an old curmudgeon who loves to vilify any new technologies. In a past century, you would have been the crazy old man who would have bemoaned people putting telephones in their homes. You would have been saying, "Why would I want a telephone in my house? If I wanted to make a telephone call, I would walk down to the local general store and use their public telephone! If people want to reach me, they can send me a letter or a telegraph! These crazy telephone gizmos are going to fry people's brains and turn society into a world of zombies out of a science fiction comic book!" LOL.T3 demands that I not watch these people in person. Rather I should watch them on a Web Cam. From a distance, where humnan emotion and expression is simply not there. Where in fact there is no human connection. His refusal to even consider my suggestion speaks for itself.
Are Smart Phones "tools" or a life style? You seem to realise that they are tools. T3 is advocating a life style. One in which, even when you have to opportunity to live in the real world, it's best to watch a Web Cam...
Dave
Sorry Dave, hate to burst your fear-mongering bubble, but the fabric of society isn't devolving because of smart phones. With every new technological introduction, society simply evolves with it, whether it was the telephone, or the internet, or the cell phone, or the smart phone. Of course, with each of these introductions, there were people who vilified them. And, no, I never advocated a smart phone as a "life style". That's just your own delusional, overblown knee-jerk reaction.
It doesn't seem all that long ago to me, but there was a three-year period in the mid-80's when I enjoyed phone-free living, and I did actually walk to the corner store to use their public phone if I needed to make a call. I wasn't anti-telephone, I just needed to use my meager income for things like rent, utilities, and food; there just wasn't enough left over for luxuries like telephone service. But I really came to like not hearing a telephone ring and knew that if I ever chose to have a phone in the house again, I'd need to get a model in which the bell could be turned off.
So we are supposed to trust a reviewer who writes "bare in mind" as if someone is removing clothes?
And a way to scratch proof it
To call someone a Luddite, while communicating with them on the Internet, on a forum discussing the latest technology? Where all the participants discuss the most up to date gear?
Even a lonely luddite needs a place to rant! LOL. And there is absolutely no doubt that you are senselessly vilifying technologies, in this case the smart phone. After all, you are the one saying "the world looks like it's composed of Zombies", and calling this generation the "Zombie generation" for using smart phones, and blah blah blah. In spite of your ridiculous fear mongering, the world is getting on just fine. The fabric of society isn't disintegrating. We aren't turning into "Zombies." Walk into any mall or plaza and you'll see people laughing, talking, enjoying their day just like they did a decade ago. It's only a fear-mongering skew-minded person who sees a world "composed of Zombies." And by the way, I've seen people trip or walk into objects while walking and reading a newspaper or magazine or book, too. Did print media turn everyone into Zombies? LOL. Is a person who is reading a book in a park "disengaged" from the world around them and destined to become a Zombie? LOL.
I can just see you standing there in the middle of a mall, shaking your cane, screaming, "Look at these young whipper snappers walking around enjoying life with their fancy-schmancy gizmos...they're Zombies, I tell you! It's the Zombie generation! Mindless Zombies! A telephone belongs at home, not in your pocket! Goodness gracious, look at that one looking up something on the internets with her telephone! Horrible! And look at that one: he has one of those damned tablet gizmos! What a travesty: he's typing without a physical keyboard and navigating without a mouse! What is this world coming to!?! It's the end times, I tell you!" LOLTo call someone a Luddite, while communicating with them on the Internet, on a forum discussing the latest technology? Where all the participants discuss the most up to date gear?Even a lonely luddite needs a place to rant! LOL. And there is absolutely no doubt that you are senselessly vilifying technologies, in this case the smart phone. After all, you are the one saying "the world looks like it's composed of Zombies", and calling this generation the "Zombie generation" for using smart phones, and blah blah blah. In spite of your ridiculous fear mongering, the world is getting on just fine. The fabric of society isn't disintegrating. We aren't turning into "Zombies." Walk into any mall or plaza and you'll see people laughing, talking, enjoying their day just like they did a decade ago. It's only a fear-mongering skew-minded person who sees a world "composed of Zombies." And by the way, I've seen people trip or walk into objects while walking and reading a newspaper or magazine or book, too. Did print media turn everyone into Zombies? LOL. Is a person who is reading a book in a park "disengaged" from the world around them and destined to become a Zombie? LOL.
Sorry to hear about your financial circumstances. However, not everyone lives in such dire financial straits. Plus, a smart phone's ringer can be turned off. In fact, you can even set the volume to your liking, set any ring tone you want, or set it to vibrate. But also keep in mind that most smart phone users don't use their smart phones for much talking at all these days. I rarely get phone calls on my cell phone anymore. These days, people primarily communicate via texting, and other forms of text communication. That means you can read the message when it's convenient for you, and respond to it when it's convenient for you, any time, any where. Taking a phone call means an interruption to whatever you are doing. Even checking voice mail is a hassle. Other forms of communication, such as texting, is far less intrusive and much more convenient. And for responding to a text, my phone does amazing voice-to-text so I often don't even need to type. But my phone also does excellent predictive typing. I can actually type on it as fast (if not faster) as on a full size PC keyboard. And with threaded texting on a smart phone, I can see every line of dialogue I've ever had with any person, even dating back months and months. Great for remembering what exactly was said at the time.
The thing that is most apparent to me is that you clearly deem yourself so superior to others around you. Why? Most odd.that you would rather watch a Web Cam, then actually sit down and watch people?
I think there's a line in Shakesphere that covers that....
You mean my belief that a cellphone camera's "benefit" is that it's better than no camera at all?The thing that is most apparent to me is that you clearly deem yourself so superior to others around you. Why? Most odd.that you would rather watch a Web Cam, then actually sit down and watch people?
I think there's a line in Shakesphere that covers that....
--Peter
Actually, the point of the web cam was that we could all see the same thing. In other words, we could all look at the same images and realize how cuckoo nuts you are! LOL. No "Zombies" from outer space! What's the matter, you don't trust this strange technology called the live "web" cam? LOL. Obviously, if I could drag you out of your boiler room basement and walk you out into the street to show you that smart phones had not transformed people into hordes of mindless Zombies, I would. Because clearly, your vilifying of technology has skewed your vision. LOLOLOL. Sad. And I don't think there is a soul here who buys your ridiculous, fear-mongering vision of the current world we live in. Seems everyone is getting on just fine. Everywhere I look, there are people talking, laughing, engaging, getting things done, in spite of having these Zombie-creating devices (according to you) called smart phones. But feel free to keep shaking your cane in anger like a crazy old man! LOL.that you would rather watch a Web Cam, then actually sit down and watch people?
I think there's a line in Shakesphere that covers that....
Dave
You realize you don't have a leg to stand on regarding smart phones, so now you're going to obsess about web cams? LOL. Keep digging a hole for yourself. I suppose I could take my 60D and shoot some hi-def video of a walk through the mall or downn a busy street, proving that smart phones hasn't ruined society and turned people into hordes of disconnected Zombies, then post that to youtube, but you'd probably say that wasn't a reflection of reality, either! LOL.You mean my belief that a cellphone camera's "benefit" is that it's better than no camera at all?The thing that is most apparent to me is that you clearly deem yourself so superior to others around you. Why? Most odd.that you would rather watch a Web Cam, then actually sit down and watch people?
I think there's a line in Shakesphere that covers that....
What pray tell about my posts leads you to believe, "...that you clearly deem yourself so superior to others around you."
Some sort of religious thing that I missed?
Or maybe it's my view that just because you can do something, "doesn't mean that you should."
Or is it my belief that people are increasingly cut off from their surroundings, typified by T3 and his response to me about asking him to watch people in a crowded street?
If you actually believe that watching people from some Web cam gives the same view and feel as watching people in person - We're going to have to agree to disagree. I say that because I can't understand the logic of such a claim.
Dave
This may come as a surprise to luddites and technophobes, but phones can be turned off or silenced at will. And I always go hiking with my phone...silenced of course, but always handy to have just in case something happens. Besides, the phone's GPS capability comes in handy for the past time of geocaching (if you don't know what that is, look it up). And I also have a compass app on my phone. The notion that people can't "relax", "look" and "listen" just because of the existence of a phone is silly fear mongering. A smart phone is simply another tool, like a pocket knife or a compass. Also, as photographers, we have trained ourselves to 'relax, look and listen' for photographic opportunities. And just because you happen to have a phone with you doesn't suddenly negate that ability. No need to pointlessly vilify just another tool of the modern age.
The problem with Nokia is that the company is going downwards with a loss of $488m and share halved.
