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Prior to a 2-week sight-seeing trip to the east coast, I was torn between buying an iPad or Android tablet vs. buying a more powerful netbook. These were the things I wanted to be able to do:

1. Perform daily back ups from my cameras’ SD cards to a hard-drive. I estimated 8-12gb worth of video clips and raw format images.
2. Connect to the Internet to check my mail and look up information.

3. Store useful information on the device such as flight and hotel reservations, contact information, etc.
4. Watch movies to entertain my family.
5. View images and video clips made during our trip.

6. Use Lightroom to tag the images during the trip, rather than waiting until I got when, when I might forget some of the details.
7. Keep a journal of our trip.
8. Play games for our kids.

9. Have a device small enough that I could carry in a small bag that I could quickly turn on and use to access available wifi service.

10. Use navigation software that would work when I had no Internet access (I wasn’t prepared to pay for out-of-country roaming charges or buy a local data plan).

Not all of these things were requirements. If a tablet could do most of those things, I would get one because, to be honest, I was smitten by the sheer sexiness of tablet devices, particularly the iPad’s excellent user interface (I already had an iPhone which I was really impressed with). But the more I looked into it, the more I came to realize that I would be better off with the practical but boring feature set of a small laptop.

1. Backing up SD cards was a requirement. An iPad might’ve worked but I would have to get one with a sizable amount of built-in storage, which would cost a lot. It’d have to have enough space for my images, video clips, and still have enough room for movies, games and other apps. The iPad would also require an external adapter to hookup an SD card reader.

My other tablet consideration was an Android device. Some of them feature built-in SD card slots, but I’d still have to pay for the more expensive models with lots of built-in storage, or else use an external HD.

In contrast, virtually all netbooks and ultra portable laptops featured 80gb or larger hard drives and built-in SD card slots.
Advantage: laptop

2. Connecting to the Internet over wifi would be easy with a tablet or a laptop. But I’ve been in some hotels where they only provided Internet access via an ethernet cable. Most laptops have ethernet ports so they would be fine. But with a tablet, I’d either have to find an ethernet-> USB adapter (that had the appropriate driver for the tablet) or get one of those mini wifi routers.
Advantage: laptop

3. iOS, Android, and Windows all have apps that are suitable for storing information off-line. Advantage: draw

4. Tablets and laptops play movies equally well. The tablets tend to have contrastier screens which look much better. But they’re shiny, unlike the matte screen on the laptop I ended up buying. The laptop also has a built-in HDMI port which many tablets don’t have, although some have an optional HDMI port adapter that can be plugged in. But for traveling, the HDMI port seemed to be more an advantage on paper than in practical use, because even though some of the hotels we stayed at had HD TVs, they didn’t have HDMI input ports. The laptop is also easier for viewing movies because it’s easy to position the screen for easy viewing even when sitting in your lap.
Advantage: draw

5. For viewing images and watching video clips made during the trip, I’m going to have to give the advantage to the tablets, due to their nicer screens, which makes it easier to evaluate an image’s quality. But that only applies to jpeg images. I primarily shoot in raw and I don’t know if iOS or Android have any apps that can convert my raw images.
Advantage: tablet
 
6. Obviously this is a laptop advantage. While my laptop’s dual-core, energy-efficient processor is slow, it is still able to run Lightroom and can convert the raw files into dng format and generate jpg 1:1 previews for viewing. I was able to tag all the images while the memories were still fresh in my mind.
Advantage: laptop

7. Laptops and tablets are both fine for keeping a journal. The tablets have an edge because they’re instant on/off. The laptop’s advantage is that it has a strongly superior input device: a near full-sized keyboard.
Advantage: draw

8. Because I had my iPhone with me, and one of the kids had a PSP, the laptop wasn’t used for games at all. But I’ll give the advantage to the tablet, because of its instant on/off nature, and the touchscreen interface.
Advantage: tablet

9. For size and convenience, the tablet wins. The laptop I chose, a Lenovo Thinkpad X120e, is about twice the thickness and a bit longer than an iPad. In Hibernate mode, it takes about 10-15 seconds to start up. If I needed quick access to the Internet or to take quick notes, I’d just use my iPhone. I only brought out the laptop if I really though I’d need it. An iPad would be much more convenient for this type of intermittent use.
Advantage: tablet

10. I use a Garmin GPS for navigating when traveling. Having the Garmin Mapsource application on my laptop, which could also exchange data with the GPS over a USB cable, is very, very convenient. I can easily create routes on the laptop, or look up locations, and then transfer them onto the GPS. This makes it easy to plan the next day’s activities using the bigger display screen of the laptop, plus I can look up locations using Garmin’s database so even if there’s no Internet access, I can find places. As far as I know, there are no decent navigation apps for the iPad or Android platforms that will exchange data with a Garmin. Also, the few off-line capable navigation apps I’ve tried on the iPhone don’t match the data quality and user interface experience of a Garmin.
Advantage: laptop

So after all those considerations, I ended up buying a small laptop. It’s a Lenovo Thinkpad X120e, using AMD’s Fusion E350 processor. The battery provides an average operating time of 6 hours which is more than enough for any plane flight I’d go on. It cost less than a 32gb iPad or Android tablet. Its 320gb hard drive gave me plenty of room for all the movies, games, and backup space I needed, with lots left over. The keyboard is a joy to type on, being virtually full-sized, and its 11-inch screen is big enough for surfing the web and watching movies. Carrying it wasn’t a problem. It fit in the padded water bladder slot and the external sleeve of my Lowe Pro Photo Sport 200. This was great since most camera backpacks that have dedicated slots for laptops and general use cargo areas are quite bulky, imo. The Photo Sport is very lightweight and a great travel backpack.

I still lust after a tablet device but for me, it’s simply not practical. Yes, the screen is gorgeous and the user interface is great, but I need (and that is the key word) something with greater versatility and off-line capability.

I hope this has been some help for any of you making a similar decision, and hopefully I haven't offended any tablet owners. This is all based on my own requirements. Your mileage may vary.

larsbc
 
1. Perform daily back ups from my cameras’ SD cards to a hard-drive.
This is the biggest problem with just about any tablet PC. BUT, the new Toshiba Thrive changes things. It has a full-size SD slot, that can take up to 128 GB cards, and a USB host port than can take a thumb drive or some external hard drives. It also has a Toshiba-written file manager that makes accessing/copying the SD cards to a thumb drive or external drive easy.

As for space to keep your movies and music, you could buy a 16 GB tablet for $475 then add a 32 GB SD card (about $50) specifically for your movies and music.
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Running Lightroom was the deciding factor for me. I went with an 11.6" notebook from HP with 4GB RAM for $500. Also runs Photoshop CS5.
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In January, I flew to the UK to shoot my nephew's wedding. With all the camera gear I had to take in my carryon, I didn't want to take a laptop. So, I took our netbook, which has a 250 GB drive. The netbook is not fast enough to run Lightroom or CS5, and I didn't even install PE. Instead, I just installed FastStone, as it is free and works fine on a low-performance PC. This allowed me to backup my CF cards (with a card reader) to the netbook hard drive, review the shots, and even make quick JPGs that I could dump to a thumb drive and leave for the couple (making sure they knew that the JPGs were low resolution and not corrected in anyway, and the real version of the photos would be much better).

It just so happened that I also got access to a family PC that was much faster. I installed the trial version of LR3 on their PC and had the time to do a first pass selection and processing on the images, with the images and the catalog being transfered to the netbook hard drive and an external HD when I was done. On return to the US, I copied over the files from the HD and imported the LR cataolg, and was able to continue processing on my home work station.

The whole process worked well. If I had a tablet PC with a RAW file viewer, a CF card reader, and the ability to write to a hard drive, I could have done everything that I did with the netbook. All of that is available today (except for the RAW file viewer), using a Toshiba Thrive, an Acer Iconia, or an Asus Transformer (the latter would need the keyboard docking station to get the ports).
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First major problem with the Pad's is they they use solid state memory instead of hard drives. So you are very limited when it comes to storage.

But a netbook (11.6') with a good high res screen (1366x768) and a large HD (250GB plus) and you will be good to go. You can even get dual core processors in them now.

Plus you will have a wealth of good software you can run on the netbook.

In the end, the netbook will be soooooo much more versatile than any Pad .

If and when anyone gets a truely fully functional touch screen Tablet PC on the market that actually works properly, then I will look at it.

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  • Rayna Butler
 
In January, I flew to the UK to shoot my nephew's wedding. With all the camera gear I had to take in my carryon, I didn't want to take a laptop. So, I took our netbook, which has a 250 GB drive. The netbook is not fast enough to run Lightroom or CS5, and I didn't even install PE. Instead, I just installed FastStone, as it is free and works fine on a low-performance PC. This allowed me to backup my CF cards (with a card reader) to the netbook hard drive, review the shots, and even make quick JPGs that I could dump to a thumb drive and leave for the couple (making sure they knew that the JPGs were low resolution and not corrected in anyway, and the real version of the photos would be much better).

It just so happened that I also got access to a family PC that was much faster. I installed the trial version of LR3 on their PC and had the time to do a first pass selection and processing on the images, with the images and the catalog being transfered to the netbook hard drive and an external HD when I was done. On return to the US, I copied over the files from the HD and imported the LR cataolg, and was able to continue processing on my home work station.

The whole process worked well. If I had a tablet PC with a RAW file viewer, a CF card reader, and the ability to write to a hard drive, I could have done everything that I did with the netbook. All of that is available today (except for the RAW file viewer), using a Toshiba Thrive, an Acer Iconia, or an Asus Transformer (the latter would need the keyboard docking station to get the ports).
Jeff, I've got an Acer Iconia. There is no functionality to write to an external drive or memory stick. You can access files on those and copy them to the tablet but you can't write to them. An Asus rep told me that Asus has built that function into their tablet but I haven't seen it for myself but I have no reason to doubt it. I believe it's more of a function of the OS and a future update might add the write functionality.
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I have a laptop and a netbook. Several months ago I bought my wife a B&N Color Nook, ($249.00). After seeing the screen resolution, I bought a 32gig, class 10 Micro SD card, ($49.00) and hacked the Nook to use Cyanogenmod 7. I have Internet access through my cell phone, Blue Tooth to transfer files, the EyeFi app, Gallery Software, PowerAmp and a bunch of other apps ... and I no longer use my Laptop nor Netbook ... VERY light and portable with 10 - 14 hours of battery life. Not bad for less than $325.00.
Warm Regards
KarlT
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+1 for the Color Nook. Biggest bargain on the market. My wife has one, but won't let me root it :) Thinking seriously of getting one for myself and doing the root thing. Amazing speed, display and power for $250.
 
An Asus rep told me that Asus has built that function into their tablet but I haven't seen it for myself but I have no reason to doubt it
Doubt it. The Asus Transformer tablet does NOT have USB host ports, so you can't connect a thumb drive or any other USB media device. If you buy the optional keyboard and connect it (making something more like a netpad), that gives you TWO USB host ports, which may be what he means, but then it is no longer a tablet.

I didn't try copying anything from/to the thumb drive with the Toshiba, but it has a specially created File Manager that is supposed to make this possible.
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Excellent! Thanks for the links. I've been using computers since before Microsoft (seriously), but the rooting thing is new to me.
 
Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:
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Jeff, I've got an Acer Iconia. There is no functionality to write to an external drive or memory stick. You can access files on those and copy them to the tablet but you can't write to them. An Asus rep told me that Asus has built that function into their tablet but I haven't seen it for myself but I have no reason to doubt it. I believe it's more of a function of the OS and a future update might add the write functionality.
When I was looking into the Transformer, I read somewhere that there was a free app that provided file system access. I also assumed all Android tablets supported usb drives (read/write). Guess I was wrong. Thx for the info.

larsbc
 
I have a laptop and a netbook. Several months ago I bought my wife a B&N Color Nook, ($249.00). After seeing the screen resolution, I bought a 32gig, class 10 Micro SD card, ($49.00) and hacked the Nook to use Cyanogenmod 7. I have Internet access through my cell phone, Blue Tooth to transfer files, the EyeFi app, Gallery Software, PowerAmp and a bunch of other apps ... and I no longer use my Laptop nor Netbook ... VERY light and portable with 10 - 14 hours of battery life. Not bad for less than $325.00.
Very interesting!

larsbc
 
Most Androit tablets can't support USB drives (or any other external data source) because they don't have USB host ports - it would be like trying to plug a a USB drive into your MP3 player. You can buy adapters for some that plug into a special docking/communication port (which is essentially the case with the Asus), but you still need software. This is also true with flash card readers - I plugged a micro SD card into an Acer Iconia and then found that the tablet didn't have any software that would let me open anything on the card. There are several free File Manager Apps, but I don't know how well they work on these tablets - the Toshiba comes with one specifically to handle files on SD cards, thumb drives, and some external hard drives.
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Jeff Peterman

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Excellent! Thanks for the links. I've been using computers since before Microsoft (seriously), but the rooting thing is new to me.
The way things are going, we are going to have to start rooting windows, in order to regain control of our computers.

I looked on the B&N site to find out more about this Nook Color.

From the site:

Incredibly clear, sharp text and images from an unsurpassed high resolution display at 1024 x 600

Sorry, but I categorically reject netbooks that use this resolution as being totally unuseable, especially for surfing the net.

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  • Rayna Butler
 
(chuckling) ... I suppose when GodSpeaks, I should listen! :) ... but then I practice law for a living! The Nook isn't a "netbook". It isn't a laptop nor substitute desktop. It is a small, highly portable, hacked eBook reader, perhaps a photoframe on steroids. For serious work, I use an HP XW9400, (8 processors, 32gig on the motherboard and 5T of hard drive space, using a 300gig Raptor as my boot drive) ... duel nVidea FX3500 video cards.) 3 HP laptops, Asus netbook and Nook. All tools.

On a day to day basis I carry the Nook and a NEX 3 with a Nikon 35mm, F1.4, AI-s. I don't spend my time surfing the net on the Nook: just check eMails, sync my docket, use EyeFi to transfer images and share some of my images with friends. Also have my CD library on it ... but will delete that since I don't listen to music on it, (have an iPod for that). I did have an iPad2 but sold it. WONDERFUL device, but with a 10" screen, too big and expensive for my purposes. Point being? If all you need to carry your groceries home from the store, is a little red wagon ... why buy a pickup truck? :) For $250 the Nook works for my purposes.





Warm Regards
KarlT
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'The best part of taking the moral highground ...... is the view'.
 
Another interesting tweak with the Color Nook. Since it is WiFi only, I found I can link my Verizon phone's WiFi to the Nook to surf the web. Anyway, small, relatively light, and cheap if you want to avoid the netbook route. Fun device!
 
I picked one up at Costco today, after testing the display one with a USB card reader - it could see/display the photos on a card in the reader. Costco have the 32 GB model for $429, with case, 2 year warranty, and a no-questions 90 day return option. I should be able to connect a card reader and for now view/copy images on SD or CF cards. If I buy and install a 32 GB micro SD card in the Acer, that will give me a decent amount of room for backup.

Now I just need to find a RAW file viewer than can run under Android 3.x.
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Jeff Peterman

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An Apple iPad (Note, I said "Apple iPad"), is what I travel with now days, instead of lugging a notebook or similar computer along; and, of course, my little AirStash that gives me more than enough storage for all of my storage needs (as, can be seen at the link and accompanying video, below):

http://www.airstash.com/
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