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Well, I know that in this forum I will find only canon fans, but I have the opportunity of getting one of them for free. The first one (Sony) in a month, for the Canon I have to wait until Christmas.
I'm reading many many reviews, but I'm confused.
What do you think about this choice? Which one should I get?

Thanks in advance.
 
They're both good cameras. Overall, the Canon has a wider range of lenses to choose from. Other than that - see if you can try them out in a shop and go for the one that feels better in your hands.
 
If this could help:
  • the a55 comes with a lens kit of 18-55IS and the 60d comes with a lens of 18-135IS
  • Given that my actual camera (nikon l110) at night isn't that good, well it isn't good at all, I would like a camera able to shoot at night
 
Well, the 18-55 Canon kit lens is not so good. Don't know about the Sony lens.

Both cameras are capable of shooting at night. What do you mean by that statement? If shooting without flash assistance, the sensor noise increases as the ISO setting (light sensitivity) increases.
Trinit said:
If this could help:
  • the a55 comes with a lens kit of 18-55IS and the 60d comes with a lens of 18-135IS
  • Given that my actual camera (nikon l110) at night isn't that good, well it isn't good at all, I would like a camera able to shoot at night
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Trinit said:
If this could help:
  • the a55 comes with a lens kit of 18-55IS and the 60d comes with a lens of 18-135IS
  • Given that my actual camera (nikon l110) at night isn't that good, well it isn't good at all, I would like a camera able to shoot at night
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Both are about equal at night (Sony A55 a bit better at ISO 100 very long exposure time shots (tripod or street furniture stabilization stuff), high ISO they perform equal.

Problem with the Sony A55, its mirror will make ghost lights with bright lights in night shots.

The Sony is lighter and more compact, the Canon feels much sturdier and has a nicer feel.

Both are fine for simple amateur photographers, for more serious photographers the Canon is better suited.

Since you have no idea yet how your photography will develop, and so future uses are not clear, we can't really help you much in your choice... Try each to at least get a feel for the body and its user interface.
 
I wrote 18-135 not, 18-55!
Still not good or there's an improvement?

For my photography I shoot portraits, macros, and "street photography", I mean: monuments, perspective I like in some streets, nature, etc.

At the moment, I can't shot at night with my Nikon, but I'd like to, for example in a concert or just nature at night.

Obviously, sometimes there's a party and I'm the one who takes the camera. So, I will need to shoot inside, but without using flash (I don't like so much to use it, it ruins the natural light, I use it just to freeze moments.)

I hope I explained what I mean, if you need I will link you to my DeviantART profile page, to understand better the kind of photography that I do (even if with a reflex I want to learn new techniques that I can't learn with my camera)

Sorry about my english.
 
From the specs it look good, but down the road you have a larger selection of lenses
from Canon, Canon's 18-55 is not built well but gives sometimes amazing photo's
I had the same choices, but mine was between Nikon and Canon,

they all have there pro's and cons, but also consider excellent pruduct support with Canon. dial 1-800 -ok- Canon and you will have all the tech support you need, and I am sure Nikon is the same , I went with canon because these people have been doing this a long time and I have not been disappointed---I just picked Canon ,,I had Nikon during the film days and the built quality was also great,
but like thew last poster mentioned they have a larger selection of lenses--
Down the road they may be a issue
 
Both camera's are good for most purposes. There's a myth about lens variety. You don't have to choose Canon lenses if you like. There are plenty of excellent third party lenses (Tamron, Sigma, Tokina, etc....) that are available in both Canon and Sony. The Sony has far more features packed as opposed to Canon 60D. I personally like the full time AF (video) with the Sony. There is one issue with the Sony. It uses a built in stabilizer (SSS) and some have complained about overheating during video and camera shuts down for a period of time. Not sure if this problem occurs with photography, but that can be resolved by buying lenses with stabilizers built in. Also the Sony uses a translucent mirror, does not lift, light passes through the mirror and onto the sensor, in theory choking off some of the photons entering the sensor losing some stop value. Not sure of how much the value. All and all I think it's a toss up. If you do buy either one make sure you don't get to deep into lenses and still not sure what you want, and are now stuck with a lens system where it's hard to change over due to cost.
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brightcolours said:
Problem with the Sony A55, its mirror will make ghost lights with bright lights in night shots.
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For most people this may not be a problem but for people who like taking night shots, it is. Here is a collection of ghosting artifacts, some from samples on this site, some from a file of a Sony shooter. BTW, why Canon or Sony, what is wrong with Nikon?

 
All things being equal, your initial purchase is buying into a family of products. The Canon family is much larger and more common, not necessarily better in each incidence. I had many Sony camera before buying my Canons and have high respect for Sony as well as Canon.

Yesterday I was watching a video on sensor cleaning and the instructor asked the audience how many had Canon, how many had Nikon, how many had something else. He then went on and explained how to use the product on Canon and Nikon. This type of thing happens when you go to workshops, too, as the instructors generally are not familiar with how do do specific things on a Sony.

So there is some convenience in staying with Canon and Nikon, all other things being equal and your budget allowing either. Sony is making rapid advances in technology, but the lag is still there when it comes to users and although they can't do anything about it, it does affect group situations where instructors are teaching to the masses.

Hope this helps,

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Is there a way to avoid ghosts images? So which one is better at night?

P.s. I'll explain why I can't take a Nikon.

My dad has a tabacconist shop, and when he takes TOT kilos of cigarettes, they give him TOT points.

We actually have 131.000 points and in the catalog there is a Sony a55 18-55IS (85.000 points) and a Canon 60d 18-135IS (140.000 points). That's why I can take the sony now, and if I want the canon I have to wait for more points.
I want to understand why the canon costs so much more than the sony?
Is the sony comparable to a reflex? (or is it a reflex?)
 
Trinit said:
Is there a way to avoid ghosts images?
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No. Unless you do no shoot scenes like these which can create ghosts.
Trinit said:
So which one is better at night?
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It depends what you shoot at night but for a typical nightscape, I would not touch such a camera. The 60D would be much better, and a new Nikon - even better.

Many users would not care though.
Trinit said:
The quality of those images at night seems so bad. Is there a way to take images like this at night?
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Trinit said:
http://browse.deviantart.com/...eet%20night&order=9&offset=24#/dvryl3
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Trinit said:
With no lights disaster? Or for example is it possible to take pictures at concerts, parties, etc?
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I have seen decent night images taken with the A35 and the A55. In most of them, ghosting will show. Not everybody will notice it however. I will. Keep in mind that some of those samples are 100% crops from a Sony shooter who posted his image as a proof that there was no ghosting. I saw it quickly. It did not bother him, but it bothered me.
 
But, you know, with streetlamps and streetlights it's unavoidable to produce those noisy images with ghosts. So for this point, canon is better, but not 'that' better. Right?
 
Trinit said:
But, you know, with streetlamps and streetlights it's unavoidable to produce those noisy images with ghosts. So for this point, canon is better, but not 'that' better. Right?
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As far as ghosting is concerned, it is infinitely better (division by 0). :) This is a 100% crop from the 50D, severely processed. You can see he noise even though it was shot at 100%. No ghosts however. Those are incredibly strong lights on the Eiffel Tower, you can see them from almost any point in Paris.


Trinit said:
Wait, what if I lower the ISO and I use a fast exposure time? Is it the same?
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The same (ghosting).
 
So the only way to shoot at night is buying a professional camera :S

Sorry, I'm not english, so a ghosting effect is like the light that doesn't stand in the lamp, or in the bulb. Right?
 
Trinit said:
So the only way to shoot at night is buying a professional camera :S
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No, a budget Canon or Nikon, or another Sony, or just another any other dSLR would do a great job.
Trinit said:
Sorry, I'm not english, so a ghosting effect is like the light that doesn't stand in the lamp, or in the bulb. Right?
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Look for smaller mirror images of strong light sources just below them.

The star effect is just diffraction, more visible at higher f/stops (like f/11 - f/22)).
 
The diffraction would be a way to remove the ghosting? And, about the noise, will it be there in any way?
 
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