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Which are you most looking forward to... "G" or "S" Series?

For as long as the G-series has existed, it has changed very little while the competition and technology has advanced. Seems Canon put the G-series into a cycle of very little change over the course of each new model, and in some ways regressed over time (now going on 11 years...hard to believe):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_PowerShot_G

Since the introduction, what has changed the most? The MPs and LCD screen size.

The "S" series which has the same sensor size and in a much smaller package, actually has a faster lens than the "G" series. Isn't that backwards?

So is the "G" series just slowly drifting into the sunset or any chance Canon will bring it back to life? With the P7000 now, the days of minor tweaks are not enough for the "G" series.

Has the "S" series taken over the roll of the "G" series? Which are you most looking forward to...the new "G" or "S" Series?
 
S. G is too large. If I don't use my S90 it's a DSLR instead.

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Phil
 
Me too, my dslr not canon, but my PnS is canon S90, looking forward for some great improvement from S9x, as from S90 to S95, don't need an upgrade for me, but I do expect a lot more rather than just pixel and some zoom.. better,sensor, video,ISO.
PC Wheeler said:
S. G is too large. If I don't use my S90 it's a DSLR instead.

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Phil
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I know it would never have enough mass appeal to get made, but I would love an S90 with a 35 or 40mm f1.4 prime lens instead of a zoom. Something that would still retract into the body with a self-cap like a normal PnS. That would be killer, IMO.
 
Don't see someone like Canon ever making a camera like that, although I agree it would be a killer.

Guess the "G" series is having less and less of a purpose. Seems Canon either needs to phase it out or cut the bulk on the next version and give it a faster lens. Otherwise, it is hard to justify the price in its current state. With the "S" series having a faster lens at a much lower price, it only makes the "G" series look worse.

It really does not make sense the "G" series has not had as fast of a lens compares to the "S" series since 2004 in the G6. To make matters worse, it lost the fast lens, Raw image format capture, and a tilt-and-swivel LCD. Then took several generations of the G9 and G11 just to get all the features back; meanwhile the competition was moving forward.
tkbslc said:
I know it would never have enough mass appeal to get made, but I would love an S90 with a 35 or 40mm f1.4 prime lens instead of a zoom. Something that would still retract into the body with a self-cap like a normal PnS. That would be killer, IMO.
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IMO, as a G10 owner, the G-series have two things going for them: the plethora of external controls and the OVF. It would be nice if they were smaller, but I can live with the size to gain those features. It may not fit into the pocket of my jeans, but it's a heck of a lot smaller and lighter than my DSLR. My wish list for the next G-series would be a wider, faster lens without sacrificing the 140mm equivalent at the long end.
 
snapshot09 said:
The "S" series which has the same sensor size and in a much smaller package, actually has a faster lens than the "G" series. Isn't that backwards?
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The "fastness" of the S series is vastly overblown in my view unless you have your camera stuck in Av mode at 2.8 and never zoom from 6.1mm efl 28mm. The S series is only faster at the very front portion of its focal range and that advantage ends pretty quickly as you zoom up vis-a-vis the G series. the G series is faster at the tele end despite the fact that the tele end is substantially longer than the S series, so I think the G is as fast or "faster" over a broader range.
snapshot09 said:
So is the "G" series just slowly drifting into the sunset or any chance Canon will bring it back to life? With the P7000 now, the days of minor tweaks are not enough for the "G" series.
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you seem to be understimating the the G series. sales are good if the current pricing is any indication -- the price is strong -- stronger than the G11 was at this point in its lifespan. meanwhile the p7000 seems to have been discounted. and isn't the p7000 essentially a G12 clone with a longer reach and buggy firmware? how can Nikon's copying of the G12 and botching the firmware part of the job mortally threaten the G series? the G series may or may not have a future (I think it and the S series both have a future) but the P7000 is not g series killer, just as the underarmed P300 (smaller sensor, no RAW) is not a s series killer.

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RaymondR
 
Hope too that Canon addresses the slow burst mode on the existing "S" series; S95 (at just 1 frame per second).
 
RaymondR said:
you seem to be understimating the the G series. sales are good if the current pricing is any indication --
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On the AmazonUSA Bestsellers in Digital Cameras, the G-12 is currently #19.

On the AmazonUSA Bestsellers in Digital Point & Shoot Cameras, the G-12 is currently #14.

...at a price of $489.95.

That's stronger sales than I anticipated.
 
At this point, unless Canon makes some dramatic changes which is highly non-Canon-like, the S95 successor is looking far more promising.

Look at the history of the "G" series when personally, Canon ruined the "G" series starting with the G7 and really hasn't changed much since then beside removing features to only add them back in the next version, up the MPs to later lower them, but no real advances.
BIJ001 said:
snapshot09 said:
So is the "G" series just slowly drifting into the sunset
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The A6xx series consisted of fine little cameras but Canon did it in.

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Iván József Balázs
(Hungary)
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snapshot09 said:
Look at the history of the "G" series when personally, Canon ruined the "G" series starting with the G7 and really hasn't changed much since then beside removing features to only add them back in the next version, up the MPs to later lower them, but no real advances.
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If it ain't broke why fix it? Why would Canon make radical changes to a top selling model?

Same thing with cars; the Toyota Camry is the best selling car in the US the last 13 out of 14 years....no "real advances" needed to this mature model.

The G series fits a niche for serious amateurs, it is highly successful model and I think that you're writing it's obit prematurely. Look around, there are G model Canons all over.

Nikon advertises the hell out of the P7000, (clearly a Canon knockoff) and the G12 still outsells it.

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Don
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Still wondering if Canon will increase the sensor size on the "G" series to further distance it from the S100, while leaving the S100 with the current sensor size.
 
snapshot09 said:
It really does not make sense the "G" series has not had as fast of a lens compares to the "S" series since 2004 in the G6. To make matters worse, it lost the fast lens, Raw image format capture, and a tilt-and-swivel LCD. Then took several generations of the G9 and G11 just to get all the features back; meanwhile the competition was moving forward.
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Yes, a bad turn when the G7 came out :-(

I believe the Powershot Pro1 might have been intended as the G8 (no G8 in the official line-up), but was side-tracked into a 'pro' bridge camera. Unfortunately the next bridges didn't have the 'pro' aspect or fast lenses.

Personally I'm waiting for a G camera with a decent faster lens, even if it's a bit bulkier. As you say, since the G7 it's taken them until the G11 and G12 to put most of the good bits back on! All that is left now is a good fast lens.

Canon will probably bring out a compact interchangeable lens camera line, it could be fabulous if they get it right !
 
snapshot09 said:
Look at the history of the "G" series when personally, Canon ruined the "G" series starting with the G7 and really hasn't changed much since then beside removing features to only add them back in the next version, up the MPs to later lower them, but no real advances.
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After my beloved A610's shutter had got defective, I chose after some agonizing a slightly used second-hand G11. G12 was released but I saw no reason to pay more. I am very happy with the G11 ever since.

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Iván József Balázs
(Hungary)
 
I own the S95 because I was after the small factor for a take anywhere camera.

But I think the G12 with a decent lens would tempt me for a camera to take with when I don't need Tiny. It needs a fast lense like my G2 has, the current lens is meh.

A lot of people are migrating towards SLRs as a G replacement but I tell you what, my 40D with Sigma 2.8 EX lens is one order of magnitude heavier and larger than a G12 is. I only use my SLR for sports or sitting portraits because I simply don't care to haul it around.

Give me a G with solid video capability, swivel screen and 24mm-105mm constant f2.0 (ok I'd settle for f2.0-f.2.8 ;-) in the same form factor it has now and I'd be all over it.

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Eric
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I thought the lens on the G95 was fast too, but really that is only at 28mm compared to the G12.

At 35mm is is at f2.5, 50mm f3.2, 85mm f4.5 and at 100mm f4.9.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=38227906
Eric Haglund said:
I own the S95 because I was after the small factor for a take anywhere camera.

But I think the G12 with a decent lens would tempt me for a camera to take with when I don't need Tiny. It needs a fast lense like my G2 has, the current lens is meh.

A lot of people are migrating towards SLRs as a G replacement but I tell you what, my 40D with Sigma 2.8 EX lens is one order of magnitude heavier and larger than a G12 is. I only use my SLR for sports or sitting portraits because I simply don't care to haul it around.

Give me a G with solid video capability, swivel screen and 24mm-105mm constant f2.0 (ok I'd settle for f2.0-f.2.8 ;-) in the same form factor it has now and I'd be all over it.

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Eric
http://www.pbase.com/haglunde
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snapshot09 said:
Which are you most looking forward to... "G" or "S" Series?
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G series for sure!
  • longer battery life;
  • viewfinder;
  • more button for direct control;
  • flash hotshoe;
  • articulated LCD;
  • longer zoom range;
  • faster lens on most of the zoom range.
Regards
Renato

 
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