Daughter's D70s died what to replace it with

XJLanzaro · Jul 6, 2011

hypercore360 said:
Ok, this is a response to everyone that asked why I said that the response from others was nonse... for what it's worth... these irritated me ;0)

ruleofthirds3 wrote:
Daughter's D70s died what to replace it with
A hair dryer ~ they're less trouble"

A hair dryer! Instead of a real answer, a hair dryer is suggested (even with a wink, if you know what I mean)... because a girl can't handle a camera???

Next one:
GuardianFlash wrote:
"If she only uses auto, then just get a Sony HX100V."

What? Nothing against Sony, but said person already has Nikon lenses.

Next one:
GeraldW wrote:
"Unless she's into serious photography..."

How the hell do you know she is not? And the rest of the message meanders into what the person would like to do himself.

So, well, I did the same... I recommended something high end, instead of low end or something that cannot be used at all. Why bother recommending an old(er) / used D40, or anything like that. How about thinking that perhaps the person in question could elevate her/his photography by the latest offering from N-I-K-O-N, so that she can make full use of her existing lenses. Have you people thought of that? Did you think at all before retorting to what I wrote. "Me thinks not".

The man clearly states his budget, "$200-$300." Why not actually try and help instead of recommending a camera that he obviously can't afford. I would have loved to buy a D7000, but like him I just couldn't afford him, so instead I bought a D5000, which is "older" technology, and I am more then satisfied with it.

Patco · Jul 6, 2011

XJLanzaro said:
Since she has a couple of older non AF-S auto-focus lenses,

From the OP: "she has a 18-135 and a cheep Nikon 70-300"
I believe the 18-135 is an AF-S lens.

XJLanzaro said:
you should get her a body that has a built in af motor. You can get a used D80 body for about $350 or a used D200 for about $450. These cameras would both be good upgrades from a D70, getting her a P&S would be going in the wrong direction, she would only be upset with the inferior image quality.

Agree 100%. I still have, and am happy with, my D80.

XJLanzaro said:
Whatever you get her, I hope she's happy with it.

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XJLanzaro · Jul 6, 2011

Patco said:
XJLanzaro said:

Since she has a couple of older non AF-S auto-focus lenses,

Click to expand...

From the OP: "she has a 18-135 and a cheep Nikon 70-300"
I believe the 18-135 is an AF-S lens.

You're right, but to my knowledge there are three 70-300mm af lenses: the AF-S ED IF, the normal AF, and the AF ED all being f/4.0-5.6. When he says the "cheap Nikon 70-300," I believe he means either of the non AF-S models, which is why I think he should get the older D80 instead of the newer D3000 for around the same price.

dave1812 · Jul 6, 2011

the "good one" is No. 2768371. I made darn sure that the lens I found at BB on sale was the "good one", so I had the clerk go on line to verify that part number was the one I wanted. It was, and I got it for $460.

XJLanzaro said:
Patco said:

XJLanzaro said:

Since she has a couple of older non AF-S auto-focus lenses,

Click to expand...

From the OP: "she has a 18-135 and a cheep Nikon 70-300"
I believe the 18-135 is an AF-S lens.

Click to expand...

You're right, but to my knowledge there are three 70-300mm af lenses: the AF-S ED IF, the normal AF, and the AF ED all being f/4.0-5.6. When he says the "cheap Nikon 70-300," I believe he means either of the non AF-S models, which is why I think he should get the older D80 instead of the newer D3000 for around the same price.

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Patco · Jul 6, 2011

XJLanzaro said:
Patco said:

XJLanzaro said:

Since she has a couple of older non AF-S auto-focus lenses,

Click to expand...

From the OP: "she has a 18-135 and a cheep Nikon 70-300"
I believe the 18-135 is an AF-S lens.

Click to expand...

You're right, but to my knowledge there are three 70-300mm af lenses: the AF-S ED IF, the normal AF, and the AF ED all being f/4.0-5.6. When he says the "cheap Nikon 70-300," I believe he means either of the non AF-S models, which is why I think he should get the older D80 instead of the newer D3000 for around the same price.

When I had the cheapest 70-300 for a while, I found the AF so slow I used manual focus even though my D80 has a focus motor ;-)
The D80's large & bright pentaprism viewfinder helps a lot with manual focus.

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Vandyu · Jul 6, 2011

"The D80's large & bright pentaprism viewfinder helps a lot with manual focus."

Agree, which is one reason I've never been interested in the pentamirror-equipped introductory models. After looking through the D7000, I'm now interested in that one if the question of oil spatter gets resolved. I haven't noticed anything like that in the D80.

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Patco · Jul 6, 2011

Vandyu said:
"The D80's large & bright pentaprism viewfinder helps a lot with manual focus."

Agree, which is one reason I've never been interested in the pentamirror-equipped introductory models. After looking through the D7000, I'm now interested in that one if the question of oil spatter gets resolved. I haven't noticed anything like that in the D80.

Besides not having an oil problem, apparently (and this is only based on some threads I've read here in this forum) the D80 does better at skin tones than the D7000 ;-)

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Ben C Davis · Jul 6, 2011

find someone who would marry her and let him decide.

8-|

Mr Physics · Jul 6, 2011

....good camera, no learning curve.

eddyshoots · Jul 7, 2011

Patco said:
Besides not having an oil problem, apparently (and this is only based on some threads I've read here in this forum) the D80 does better at skin tones than the D7000 ;-)

I like your winky face here....appropriate.

If you go back to 2007 everybody hated the D80 because of exposure problems. Blown highlights were going to be the downfall of Nikon. Now it's a classic. I wonder if the D7000 will magically fix itself over time too....

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Mediocre · Jul 7, 2011

ruleofthirds3 said:
She isn't interested in learning how to take a picture so am I crazy for considering a point and shoot?

Not at all. A P&S won't have the IQ of the DSLR, but new models are pretty good, easy to take along and very versatile. I enjoy my D7K immensely, but I know that for many, such a thing is just too much trouble.

Most respondents are not paying attention to this particular point. There are lots of good DSLR options out there, but none of them address this particular issue very well.

For further comments, see my next post.

Mediocre · Jul 7, 2011

ruleofthirds3 said:
Yes the budget is $200-$300 I could spend a bit more but don't really see why. She does some wildlife pix but that is about the only thing a cell phone wouldn't do. She really doesn't know if a point and shoot would work think she likes the idea of a almost "real" camera.

You may wish to consider a so-called "bridge" camera. It looks a bit like a DSLR, but uses a small sensor. It has an eye-level electronic view finder as well as the LCD. It has a long zoom lens that can work very well for wildlife in good light. It will have full manual control, if she ever wants to learn how to use it. Lens changes are never required, so there is never a problem with dust inside the camera. It's smaller and lighter than even the smallest DSLR so it's more likely to go with her.

It's an almost "real" camera.

I like my DSLR, but I know a DSLR isn't for everybody. Your daughter may be much happier with something else, from some of your comments.

Long-zoom bridge cameras typically sell for $300-$450 new in the United States.

k2guy · Jul 7, 2011

get her a Nikon P300 if you want to stay with the same brand.

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