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Why is the Sony SLR Talk forum so different?

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I would agree most of my fishing m8s went for the Canon 40D-60D range. I used to own a few canons over the years but this sony offered so much more for the money. I havent looked back. I have taken some of the best pictures with it, in my limited novice capacity which I am very pleased with.

My a55 is small but perfect for my needs..It takes fantastic pictures and compensates for the idiot on the outside....
 
I agree completely with your statement.

May I add that there is also the aspect of when someone has joined this forum. It's like any community that you move to. You buy a place in a small town because it was a quiet, sleepy town. However, as more people move in, and the way of life becomes more diverse, the newcomers may not know the way it used to be, and try and the community to something they want it to be. Sort of like what happens when people move to a farming community from the big city. They move because of the quite, but they don't like the smell of the farm animals, so when they have enough ex-city dwellers, they ban the farm animals.

When I first came upon this forum, Sony was new to the DSLR business, and many of the members here were refugees of the demise of Minolta, and all of us were pretty much in the same boat, hoping that Sony would succeed and allow us to continue using our legacy lenses.

As time has gone by, there have been new people coming aboard that don't even know that Sony's A-mount was developed by Minolta. People that frequently posted have drifted away for whatever reason. Some of the posters have become the 'bullies' of the forum, trying to chase away those that they don't agree with. And some have found a home here and can float with the punches and changes.

Like it or not, this forum is like that quiet farming community that is being over run by the city dwellers.
 
cyainparadise said:
I agree completely with your statement.

May I add that there is also the aspect of when someone has joined this forum. It's like any community that you move to. You buy a place in a small town because it was a quiet, sleepy town. However, as more people move in, and the way of life becomes more diverse, the newcomers may not know the way it used to be, and try and the community to something they want it to be. Sort of like what happens when people move to a farming community from the big city. They move because of the quite, but they don't like the smell of the farm animals, so when they have enough ex-city dwellers, they ban the farm animals.

When I first came upon this forum, Sony was new to the DSLR business, and many of the members here were refugees of the demise of Minolta, and all of us were pretty much in the same boat, hoping that Sony would succeed and allow us to continue using our legacy lenses.

As time has gone by, there have been new people coming aboard that don't even know that Sony's A-mount was developed by Minolta. People that frequently posted have drifted away for whatever reason. Some of the posters have become the 'bullies' of the forum, trying to chase away those that they don't agree with. And some have found a home here and can float with the punches and changes.

Like it or not, this forum is like that quiet farming community that is being over run by the city dwellers.
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The analogy fails in that the small town doesn't need the newcomers to survive. The A-mount does. - TF
 
Actually, most small towns in America new newcomers as well.

Perhaps there have been bully newcomers who have arrived here; I am not sure. But I do know that there were at least a good number of bullies who were here from the beginning, and never had any respect for any newcomers. Not only that, but they let everyone know they had no respect.

Most of them are gone now, and the forum has become much more gentle, much more pleasant.

As to Sony's trajectory, I believe that what we are seeing now is the playing out of Sony's intentions from the beginning: to introduce innovative, even revolutionary cameras at every level. This year, at the enthusiast level; next year, at the avowedly professional level.
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Rand 47 laid it out correctly; I'm in the habit of coming by the forum at least once a day and usually move on after that. All I read is a lot of hot air which I don't have time to bother with. My A700 works just fine and when it dies I'm in serious doubt I will get another Sony.
 
winedarksea said:
As to Sony's trajectory, I believe that what we are seeing now is the playing out of Sony's intentions from the beginning: to introduce innovative, even revolutionary cameras at every level. This year, at the enthusiast level; next year, at the avowedly professional level.
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Dulaney
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Oh how I hope you're right. I have a lot of growing up to do as a photographer, but I really like my system - sure, my a500 lacks some features that one would simply expect to be there, but when the time comes I'm really starting to miss those, I would like to be able to upgrade without losing all my glass. Maybe, the situation for more advanced photographers is more dire, and I hope Sony understands that you can't have a successful DSLR/T line-up if you don't have experienced users that show the way. IMHO.
 
winedarksea said:
Most of them are gone now, and the forum has become much more gentle, much more pleasant.
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Apparently, you missed the attacks that were recently piled upon me. The Fanboyz didn't like my topic which caused one attack, or that I stated a fact about Sony, which caused another attack.

If they don't like me, my posts, or my opinions, they are free to ignore me. Rather than doing so, they troll the forum looking to attack those they disagree with.
 
Fredthefirst said:
Rand 47 - thanks for your thoughtful and articulate contribution. It was clear, concise and well written. While it is an opinion, you have supported it in a reasonable fashion. Your experience and intelligence comes through clearly.
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You're very welcome. And thank you for the kind words.
 
3up1down said:
Rand 47 laid it out correctly; I'm in the habit of coming by the forum at least once a day and usually move on after that. All I read is a lot of hot air which I don't have time to bother with. My A700 works just fine and when it dies I'm in serious doubt I will get another Sony.
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Thanks.

I'm in a slightly less enviable position. I've invested in a ton of Zeiss and Sony G glass. It "seemed" as though the mere existence of these wonderful lenses was assurance, de facto, that Sony would continue to stun the camera world with cameras like the A900 and 850 - at least in terms of price / performance / IQ. So, I've cast my lot with Sony for the time being at least. If the next gen FF is a wonderful step into the future re the broad range of what makes for IQ, then I'll be fine. If not, I'll find a couple of A900 bodies to rat-hole away for use w/ my Z and G glass, and then re-evaluate where the world of image making and technology is going.
 
Rand 47 said:
3up1down said:
Rand 47 laid it out correctly; I'm in the habit of coming by the forum at least once a day and usually move on after that. All I read is a lot of hot air which I don't have time to bother with. My A700 works just fine and when it dies I'm in serious doubt I will get another Sony.
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Thanks.

I'm in a slightly less enviable position. I've invested in a ton of Zeiss and Sony G glass. It "seemed" as though the mere existence of these wonderful lenses was assurance, de facto, that Sony would continue to stun the camera world with cameras like the A900 and 850 - at least in terms of price / performance / IQ. So, I've cast my lot with Sony for the time being at least. If the next gen FF is a wonderful step into the future re the broad range of what makes for IQ, then I'll be fine. If not, I'll find a couple of A900 bodies to rat-hole away for use w/ my Z and G glass, and then re-evaluate where the world of image making and technology is going.
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Options can get expensive! I commend you for posting an excellent topic. It would be nice to see more of them. Rand47; I've collected a lot of Minolta lens over the years but I got them when prices were cheap.
 
I think it's pretty simple and readily apparent if you've spent even a couple hours here.

With other makers, the camera lines are pretty set and they know when approximately something new is coming out. Long history of back and forth between them.

Sony is newer to the game for one. On top of that they are changing things up so things are more uncertain. Their releases and/or lack of them have left things open to a lot speculation.

Not sure how this isn't self-evident.
 
This is just a question from someone who doesn't really know much about brand identities and marketing, but what exactly is the crucial difference between a Canon and a Nikon? When I was in the market for my first DSLR, I chose Sony for two reasons, which they have remained true to, as far as I know: in-body stabilization, and excellent HDR features (as I came from a non-AF system, legacy lenses were not an issue for me). As I later understood, there's a third Sony 'thing', which is that all bodies are equipped with a flash wireless RC. I really don't know what makes a Canon different from a Nikon, but I was able to make a choice for Sony. Again, I don't really know much about the matter.
 
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