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I understand Micro Four Thirds cameras to have good capabilities for recording video. How about time lapse video? Is there any camera that allows to to set low frame rates (like 1 frame per second, or 1 frame per minute) for video capture? And if such an option exist, does it record without quickly draining the battery?

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There are several wired controllers by different manufacturers available for the GH series and I believe G/GFs that, on paper, provide a pretty a wide range of intervalometer functions. I don't have one myself yet, but I will be picking one up soon. I use the intervalometer on my Nikon D700 quite a bit and while it is quite good, it is limited to aximum of 999 shots. The controllers for the Panasonics claim an unlimited # of shots are possible.

Battery life - that will be the achillies heel...

Search eBay for "GH intervalometer" to see some options. I think B&h has some too...
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The intervalometer is for taking photogaphs at a certain time interval, right? I think it makes more sense to see time lapse as a video option. After all, the purpose is to make a movie. It doesn't need to be composed of high definition photographs.

I have a time lapse option on my current video camera. It is a nice feature, but it does not work on battery only. I have to plug the camera in to a wall socket. It would be nice to be able to make a time lapse movie without extra gear, using just the battery.
 
I just use the cable release on my E-P1, if frame rate gets to high, discard what you do not need. Runs "forever", never had battery issues when recording in the range of hours. The time machine also works pretty well but is overkill for simple time lapses.
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i think most timelapse is done by importing a series of JPGs into your video editor. this gives you loads of control. i bought a timer/intervolometer off ebay for my GH1 and do loads of timelapse with it. having a camera put the stills in a clip for you might be nice, but i wouldnt go out of my way for it.
 
i picked up a JJC timer off ebay for my GH1 a couple years ago. you can do unlimited pics. all you have to do is plug the camera in directly to the battery charger. you can take thousands of pics over several days...
 
There are several wired controllers by different manufacturers available for the GH series and I believe G/GFs that, on paper, provide a pretty a wide range of intervalometer functions. I don't have one myself yet, but I will be picking one up soon. I use the intervalometer on my Nikon D700 quite a bit and while it is quite good, it is limited to aximum of 999 shots. The controllers for the Panasonics claim an unlimited # of shots are possible.
You can get similar controllers for the Olympus E-P1, E-P2, and E-PL2. The E-PL1 does not support a wired shutter release.

While i'm not aware of a video option, there is various software out there to merge a series of still images into a video. In terms of size, most of the cameras have options to take a smaller JPG image, than a full size image, and that would be useful in this case.
Battery life - that will be the achillies heel...
On some of the Panasonic cameras, I believe come with a fake battery that you can attach the battery charger wires to and plug the camera into the wall. I'm not aware of a similar system for Olympus.
 
I understand Micro Four Thirds cameras to have good capabilities for recording video. How about time lapse video? Is there any camera that allows to to set low frame rates (like 1 frame per second, or 1 frame per minute) for video capture? And if such an option exist, does it record without quickly draining the battery?
The E-PL1 at least can employ the "anti-shock" feature, which is a delay to the shutter release, so, if the shutter button can be held down mechanically then FPS based on shutter delays of 1/8 sec, 1/4 sec, 1/2 sec, 1 sec, 2 sec, 4 sec, 8 sec, 15 sec or 30 sec can be used. As for how long the battery lasts under those conditions, I can't say, only ever fiddled with some short sequences.

Regards........ Guy
 
What time elapse video options does the GH2 offer? I imagine it would be the only m4/3 model with any at all.

Most time elapse on consumer videocams (such as the TM700 to 900) is good only for daylight, or perhaps sunrises and sunsets, because the manual shutter control is inoperative in the time-elapse mode.

Time elapse is no good for night sky video unless it performs in conjunction with manual slow shutter speed.

Other folks can correct me, but my vague inkling is that only the Nikon 5100 or higher models offer a full set of time elapse options. But perhaps the shutter and aperture controls would apply only in a time-elapse still photo mode, and to combine 100s or 1,000s of time-elapse stills to create a short video can take lots of work.

However, even with a Nikkon, you'd need an AC adaptor or hefty battery pack, or be limited to relatively short time-elaps sequences.

Some video editing programs also have an "allergy" to time-elapse clips, causing flashes to appear. If anyone has avoided this, please disclose what device produced the clips and what tool you used to edit.
 
What time elapse video options does the GH2 offer? I imagine it would be the only m4/3 model with any at all.

Most time elapse on consumer videocams (such as the TM700 to 900) is good only for daylight, or perhaps sunrises and sunsets, because the manual shutter control is inoperative in the time-elapse mode.

Time elapse is no good for night sky video unless it performs in conjunction with manual slow shutter speed.

Other folks can correct me, but my vague inkling is that only the Nikon 5100 or higher models offer a full set of time elapse options. But perhaps the shutter and aperture controls would apply only in a time-elapse still photo mode, and to combine 100s or 1,000s of time-elapse stills to create a short video can take lots of work.
You have full manual control in timelapse mode.
However, even with a Nikkon, you'd need an AC adaptor or hefty battery pack, or be limited to relatively short time-elaps sequences.
I get about 600 sequence shots out of my D700 in TL mode per battery... but, the time will be dependent on many factors including interval.. i bet you cant leave your camera on for a whole year with 1 day intervels.
Some video editing programs also have an "allergy" to time-elapse clips, causing flashes to appear. If anyone has avoided this, please disclose what device produced the clips and what tool you used to edit.
I use Sony Vegas to timelapse.. i set the import photo time to 0.033 seconds and turn Quantize Frame off (you get the flickering if you leave this on). then you just drop your image sequence in and its basically ready to render. ... it you want to apply fancy video effects, you can export as uncompressed AVI (HUGE FILE) and owrk on that.
 
Apple Quicktime (free download) allows you to import a series of images (sequentially numbered - as you'd normally get anyway from the camera) and it automatically assembles it into a quicktime .MOV format movie to be played. Shoot your images at final resolution to speed up assembly time (you do not want to shoot at 14megapixels!!)
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I've put 800 slides into this product from Photodex called Pro Show Gold with no problem at all, and converted to a movie of any type including high res mpeg, flash and youtube direct upload. I'm sure it could handle a couple thousand frames. You can change the interval for each frame easily, add music files, titles, etc. Voila, time lapse turned into movie.

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TEB, how did you manage the exposure control over those several hours?

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I second the Pro Show Gold recommendation. Although Quicktime is free and super-automated for simplicity, Pro Show is also very intuitive and does give you much more control over timings, effcts etc.
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I was using Quicktime Pro - which had more tools for authoring than the current version of quicktime. I think now they want you to iMovie for these and I'm not an iMovie fan...I'm dense about doing video.
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You have full manual control in timelapse mode.
I assume you mean in timelapse still mode. Do the D700 or 5100 allow time elapse with manual shutter control in their video modes too? The few consumer videocams with time-elapse seem to use an auto setting and cannot shoot starry skies at night. A moon will blow out, unless you zoom so close that the earth's rotation will cause it to leave the frame after just a few shots. On a moonless night, you get no stars but only noise. To obtain stars that appear to move (as the earth rotates) one would need manual tools to set ISO low and set the shutter speed to five seconds or more.
I get about 600 sequence shots out of my D700 in TL mode per battery... but, the time will be dependent on many factors including interval.. i bet you cant leave your camera on for a whole year with 1 day intervels.
Do Nikons with time elapse turn off or go to "sleep" mode between shots when the time-elapse interval is over, say, 1 shot / 10 seconds? Otherwise, one would think that to keep the camera in full ready mode would wear down the battery within three hours. As you might guess, I'm trying to figure how to "compress an entire night into perhaps 20 seconds, as simulated in some planetariums. One might need a second camera, or get up pre-dawn and shorten the shutter time, as sunrise approaches.

Meanwhile, can the GH2 (with all its video controls) do something like what a Nikon can? Or is its time-elapse video pretty much a daytime tool?
 
You have full manual control in timelapse mode.
I assume you mean in timelapse still mode. Do the D700 or 5100 allow time elapse with manual shutter control in their video modes too? The few consumer videocams with time-elapse seem to use an auto setting and cannot shoot starry skies at night. A moon will blow out, unless you zoom so close that the earth's rotation will cause it to leave the frame after just a few shots. On a moonless night, you get no stars but only noise. To obtain stars that appear to move (as the earth rotates) one would need manual tools to set ISO low and set the shutter speed to five seconds or more.
Not sure about tl in video mode. Although, i would think that using the still image capture mode would be far surperior to using video mode... esp. for DSLRs since their sensors are not designed for video.
I get about 600 sequence shots out of my D700 in TL mode per battery... but, the time will be dependent on many factors including interval.. i bet you cant leave your camera on for a whole year with 1 day intervels.
Do Nikons with time elapse turn off or go to "sleep" mode between shots when the time-elapse interval is over, say, 1 shot / 10 seconds? Otherwise, one would think that to keep the camera in full ready mode would wear down the battery within three hours. As you might guess, I'm trying to figure how to "compress an entire night into perhaps 20 seconds, as simulated in some planetariums. One might need a second camera, or get up pre-dawn and shorten the shutter time, as sunrise approaches.
No, i think it stays on all the time. I consistently get 1500-2000 shots with my D700... which is why the battery drains so fast.

And, depending on your interval, swaping batteries isnt an issue.. the time it takes is minimal and even if you miss a shot, its no big deal.. no one will know. But, you have to tend to your camera which is the issue.
Meanwhile, can the GH2 (with all its video controls) do something like what a Nikon can? Or is its time-elapse video pretty much a daytime tool?
 

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