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Talking about the DSLR bodies, not Sigma glass. I don't get the loyalty. All the bodies seem to be feature poor compared to competitors. The infamous sensors reportedly give lots of resolution, but only in bright light....color and noise in the shadows is...um..ahhh...not so great, poor ISO performance seems to be about 2 years behind not only Nikon and Canon, but Olympus, Sony, etc.

I originally just came by to see the train wreck, but I can't help but admire the tenacity of the Sigma fan...just don't understand it.
 
commiebiker said:
Talking about the DSLR bodies, not Sigma glass. I don't get the loyalty. All the bodies seem to be feature poor compared to competitors. The infamous sensors reportedly give lots of resolution, but only in bright light....color and noise in the shadows is...um..ahhh...not so great, poor ISO performance seems to be about 2 years behind not only Nikon and Canon, but Olympus, Sony, etc.
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Yep - that's about the size of it. :-) It's "an acquired taste".

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commiebiker said:
Talking about the DSLR bodies, not Sigma glass. I don't get the loyalty. All the bodies seem to be feature poor compared to competitors. The infamous sensors reportedly give lots of resolution, but only in bright light....color and noise in the shadows is...um..ahhh...not so great, poor ISO performance seems to be about 2 years behind not only Nikon and Canon, but Olympus, Sony, etc.

I originally just came by to see the train wreck, but I can't help but admire the tenacity of the Sigma fan...just don't understand it.
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Some of us care more about the IQ we get from the Foveon sensor than having a huge feature list full of things we may seldom use.

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many folks think that Nikon and Canon, Olympus, Sony look "digital"

that means the colors dont look vibrant, rich and solid

do this:

find a 4x5 large format color slide taken on a view camera

look at how solid and rich the colors are

now look at a digital image

which looks better?
 
Beliefs!

It is about beliefs.

As an example: It is a possibility to believe that there is a Nobel Prize for Economics even though there is no Nobel Prize of that nature. There is also the possibility that this belief, a hoax, is propagated via a multitude of the media. And in doing so, the illusions generated by this belief becomes persistent.

To quote A. Einstein: "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

Which by the way, also applies to the concept of history or histories.

Belief it, experience it.
 
For me when I shoot with my Sigma SD DSLR's I truly feel like I did most of the work. Unlike with my Nikon's where It feels like the camera did 95% of the work and Im just lucky to be there pressing the shutter button. Then end result image from Sigma keeps me coming back for more.
 
brittonx said:
Some of us care more about the IQ we get from the Foveon sensor than having a huge feature list full of things we may seldom use.
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You nailed it, Britton. It's the IQ from the Foveon sensor. Plain and simple.

If you have been to a major Sigma trade show and have seen the huge prints that Laurence has crafted, you would know the reason and the difference at first sight. Nothing in the Nikon, Canon, Sony, Olympus, you name it booths even comes close to the IQ in the Sigma/Foveon prints at those shows.

I remember the HUGE panorama that Laurence did of the Swiss Alps that covered most of the front of the Sigma booth at PMA a few years back. It was incredible.

In the end it is (or at least SHOULD be) about the result and NOT the tool.

IQ IQ IQ ... IQ

Best Regards,

BT
 
even if they didn't have any edge in IQ, i'd still use them since they are the only maker that doesn't burden their cameras with all sorts of gadgetry. ok perhaps leica is another, but in a different price range, and not without it's own issues.
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billt1970 said:
brittonx said:
Some of us care more about the IQ we get from the Foveon sensor than having a huge feature list full of things we may seldom use.
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You nailed it, Britton. It's the IQ from the Foveon sensor. Plain and simple.

If you have been to a major Sigma trade show and have seen the huge prints that Laurence has crafted, you would know the reason and the difference at first sight. Nothing in the Nikon, Canon, Sony, Olympus, you name it booths even comes close to the IQ in the Sigma/Foveon prints at those shows.

I remember the HUGE panorama that Laurence did of the Swiss Alps that covered most of the front of the Sigma booth at PMA a few years back. It was incredible.

In the end it is (or at least SHOULD be) about the result and NOT the tool.

IQ IQ IQ ... IQ

Best Regards,

BT
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Ok. yes IQ. but there is a real bonus.....

the people.

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http://www.pbase.com/chunsum (Gallery)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chunsum (Gallery)
http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr (Sigma Users Gallery)
 
so you do believe that one can not make a picture without having cool features?

So you can not imagine how one can make pictures without using the machinegun mode on the camera?

The big bonus here are the people, it is a sort of community, Nikon, Canon and all the others maybe except Leica are like being lost on an endless parking lot.

The truth is, we are all to dumb to use a camera where the manual is like 500 pages, where you must do endless discussions which in camera jpg settings are the best and all.
We just like photography.
And we have here the funniest trolls.
 
rick decker said:
and someone told them:

"Sigma is the camera for morons because your IQ goes up when you shoot Sigma".
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Lucky for me then. I used to buy lenses and just point them at things and wondered why I never recorded any pictures. Now I have Sigma cameras - and whoopee! I now have IQ AND pictures.
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Vitée

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Matt

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commiebiker said:
Talking about the DSLR bodies, not Sigma glass. I don't get the loyalty. All the bodies seem to be feature poor compared to competitors. The infamous sensors reportedly give lots of resolution, but only in bright light....color and noise in the shadows is...um..ahhh...not so great, poor ISO performance seems to be about 2 years behind not only Nikon and Canon, but Olympus, Sony, etc.
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We are loyal because no-one else can deliver the same image quality, and Sigma is slowly over the years fixing the deficits you mention.

Meanwhile you have a ceiling of which you are not even aware over what you can shoot, forever limiting the potential of your results. But I'm sure you enjoy it knowing not what you miss, best not to look too close or you may fall in as well.

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---> Kendall
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http://www.pbase.com/kgelner
http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr/user_home
 
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