Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II vs. Sigma 50-500 OS

Daniel - Quite impressive! I especially like the middle one. You have me very optimistic about the capabilities of this lens! Thank you for sharing.
 
I have done it already and even if I saw very slight increase in sharpness it was so slight that it does not justify decrease in shutter speed. The only time I even consider stopping down is to increase DOF like in this shot.









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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

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Check this out:

The license plate below is a small crop in the right hand corner and it is not even in the focus area and yet it acceptably sharp for a such a small crop.









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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

Quote by Lee Jay

 
Sundayman,

I got this carrier to use with my 7D and Sigma when walking around...really makes a difference...

http://buy.cottoncarrier.com/cotton-carrier-camera-system-p/100ccs.htm
Eugene - I HOPE you are right! As I said, my initial test was very quick and informal, so I don't have a problem admitting if I was wrong (and I hope I am). As mentioned previously, I'm new to the tele end of things, so I bought the Sigma with the hope of capturing images that I simply could not with my 70-200, and I certainly hope that turns out to be the case.

My initial observations of the 50-500 OS:

Pros
  • 10X zoom range
  • 50mm capability
  • Close MFD
  • Very nice build to the lens (better than expected, to be honest)
  • VERY reasonably priced for a lens of this caliber
Cons
  • On the slower side (need f/8 for sweet spot? This is only from what I've read; I will have to see for myself. Your samples seem to refute that)
  • Heavy! With this zoom range, I wish it was more walkaround weight... but I guess you can't have everything!
 
Will this system work with a battery grip attached to the camera? That looks like a great solution for carrying the Sigma (as well as the 70-200/2.8). Although the BG adds extra weight, it stays on my camera 100% of the time now, not only for the extra battery, but because it makes it a little easier to grab and steady the camera in my hands - especially with heavier lenses (like the 50-500 OS!).

For speed/ease of use, I currently use a Black Rapid R-strap (I hate the traditional neck straps), but it's not ideal for bigger lenses like the 70-200 (or 50-500). So thank you for the tip! How easy is it to pull the camera out from under the chest strap with the big lens attached?
 
I just spent 9.5 hours on my feet only to sit down for a few minutes to eat carrying 7D with a grip and Sigma 120-300mm OS on one side and 5D2 with 24-70mm L on the other using Optech dual strap. Last year (at the same event)it was the same setup but with 50-500mm OS. And 120-300mm OS is a lot heavier than 50-500mm OS.
BTW, I go hiking with 50-500mm and 2 bodies and backpack.

At the end of the day I did not feel a thing. I have tried Cotton Carrier but felt like I was pregnant.
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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

Quote by Lee Jay

 
What kind of shoes do u have ;)
I just spent 9.5 hours on my feet only to sit down for a few minutes to eat carrying 7D with a grip and Sigma 120-300mm OS on one side and 5D2 with 24-70mm L on the other using Optech dual strap. Last year (at the same event)it was the same setup but with 50-500mm OS. And 120-300mm OS is a lot heavier than 50-500mm OS.
BTW, I go hiking with 50-500mm and 2 bodies and backpack.

At the end of the day I did not feel a thing. I have tried Cotton Carrier but felt like I was pregnant.
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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

Quote by Lee Jay

 
Did you use the Optech while hiking? I used the R-strap a couple of times, but found the camera bounced/swayed a lot - even with smaller lenses. That's why I'm doubtful it will work well with an even bigger lens (like the Sigma). Still beats putting the camera away in a bag/pack, but I wonder if the Optech would work better (i.e. less sway and bounce). I appreciate the tip!
I just spent 9.5 hours on my feet only to sit down for a few minutes to eat carrying 7D with a grip and Sigma 120-300mm OS on one side and 5D2 with 24-70mm L on the other using Optech dual strap. Last year (at the same event)it was the same setup but with 50-500mm OS. And 120-300mm OS is a lot heavier than 50-500mm OS.
BTW, I go hiking with 50-500mm and 2 bodies and backpack.

At the end of the day I did not feel a thing. I have tried Cotton Carrier but felt like I was pregnant.
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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

Quote by Lee Jay

 
The Cotton carrier comes with hubs. One of the hubs is shaped at an angle to allow for a battery grip.

Check out this video...really makes for hands free carry....a lot less fatigue for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcHf9xFQL1M
 
I also have the cotton Carrier and love it for hiking. I use it with a 7D and Canon 400 5.6. It's well worth the money. The camera stays put and it's very quick and easy to remove. I love having both hands free and not having to worry about my rig swinging around. I personally find the Black Rapid to be a rip off.
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'The truth is rarely pure and never simple' Oscar Wilde
 
The kind that kick a$$.
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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

Quote by Lee Jay

 
It sways but maybe a little less because it is attached just like a regular strap. I hold cameras while walking just so they don't sway. I also have BR clone so cameras not only sway but rotate too.
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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

Quote by Lee Jay

 
Thanks guys for the input. Carrying larger lenses (attached) will be a new challenge. If it turns out to be anything like my quest to find the perfect camera bag/pack solution (which I don't think exists), I will probably end up buying both the Cotton Carrier and the Optech - as well as everything else under the sun. But both look like viable options. Maybe CC for hiking and Optech for the city? (And yes, I've also noticed that BR is overpriced compared to other comparable systems.) Thanks.
 
Thanks guys for the input. Carrying larger lenses (attached) will be a new challenge. If it turns out to be anything like my quest to find the perfect camera bag/pack solution (which I don't think exists), I will probably end up buying both the Cotton Carrier and the Optech - as well as everything else under the sun. But both look like viable options. Maybe CC for hiking and Optech for the city? (And yes, I've also noticed that BR is overpriced compared to other comparable systems.) Thanks.
You forgot one thing: After you do all of the above you should also change your name to Eugene Powers.

BTW, look in to backpack made by Vanguard. Air something. They are much lighter because they are filled with air. I think. I got one.

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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

Quote by Lee Jay

 
I see you've been down that road, too... I suspect there are a lot of us Eugene Powers' out there. :-) I will check out the Vanguard packs. I'm not familiar with their stuff (the ones I've been using lately are Think Tank).

Thanks again for all your input. I appreciate the real world tips and advice from you and all of the others. I have my own preferences on a lot of things, but if there's a different or better way of doing things, I'm all for trying them out...
Thanks guys for the input. Carrying larger lenses (attached) will be a new challenge. If it turns out to be anything like my quest to find the perfect camera bag/pack solution (which I don't think exists), I will probably end up buying both the Cotton Carrier and the Optech - as well as everything else under the sun. But both look like viable options. Maybe CC for hiking and Optech for the city? (And yes, I've also noticed that BR is overpriced compared to other comparable systems.) Thanks.
You forgot one thing: After you do all of the above you should also change your name to Eugene Powers.

BTW, look in to backpack made by Vanguard. Air something. They are much lighter because they are filled with air. I think. I got one.

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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

Quote by Lee Jay

 
and dont forget ur kick a$$ shoes haha
Thanks guys for the input. Carrying larger lenses (attached) will be a new challenge. If it turns out to be anything like my quest to find the perfect camera bag/pack solution (which I don't think exists), I will probably end up buying both the Cotton Carrier and the Optech - as well as everything else under the sun. But both look like viable options. Maybe CC for hiking and Optech for the city? (And yes, I've also noticed that BR is overpriced compared to other comparable systems.) Thanks.
You forgot one thing: After you do all of the above you should also change your name to Eugene Powers.

BTW, look in to backpack made by Vanguard. Air something. They are much lighter because they are filled with air. I think. I got one.

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Eugene

The only time a smaller sensor with the same pixel count is superior to a larger sensor (aka higher pixel density) is when you are focal-length limited.

Quote by Lee Jay

 

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