Work Place Security Video & An Employee's Handgun Saves Lives.

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Is to make it more difficult for either the State or indidividuals in law enforcement from framing an innocent person. The Police have to go before a Judge and present clear evidence that there is probable cause in order for a warrant to be issued. That the warrant must be clear as to the things to be seized. Previously, the Courts have ruled that in the case of hot pursuit, a warrant is not necessary. That's fine. They would have to prove in Court, later, that they actually were in hot pursuit.

But essentially this Court Ruling is simply stating that the Police or the State, would never dream of lying; that they would never, ever even wish to frame someone for political purposes. Or that if deep down in their hearts, know someone is a criminal, they would never ever lie about this. Basically this means that there is no Fourth Amendment, and no requirement for a warrant.

I think your Statemen William Pitt the Elder best summed this up...

“The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail, its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter, the rain may enter -- but the King of England cannot enter; all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement!”

And what is going to happen when some terrified home owner shoots a Cop who is breaking down their door?

Dave
 
I believe that the same Constitution that recognizes and ratifies my inalienable right of self defense also recognizes the right of anyone who doesn't like it here to leave.
I assume that is in response in my comments to Dave and I believe you may have misinterpreted what I said and what I believe. Nor did it say in any of my posts that I did not like it here, I have spent 79 years in the USA. My father served, and was severely wounded in WWI. My brother dropped out of high school and enlisted in the Navy when WWII started. I served in the Navy during the Korean situation. I do love this country and have no desire to live elsewhere.
The beauty of America is that if you don't like what's being done you can attempt to change it. This is nonsense that people who want to repeal the Second Amendment should "leave." I realise that you support the Amendment, but if someone doesn't, that's their "right."

Dave
 
Your approach disarms the Law Abiding against the Criminals! Makes NO sense! Yes, there will be Crazies that get their hands on guns, Criminals, etc. and we should try to control this, but to make it impossible for a Law Abiding Citizen to defend him/herself is NOT the correct approach!
 
On the way to the previous monthly meeting an elderly lady was stopped by a highway patrolman. He ask for her drivers licence and insurance. The lady took out the required information and handed it to the patrolman.

In with the cards he was surprised to see she had a "conceal carry" permit. He looked at her and ask if she had a weapon in her possession at this time. She responded that she indeed had .45 automatic in her glove box. Something, body language or the way she said it, made him want to ask if she had any other firearms. She did admit to also having a 9mm Glock in her center console. Now he had to ask one more time if that was all, she responded once again she did have just one more, a .38 special in her purse.

The officer then ask her what was she so afraid of?

She looked him right in the eye and said, "Not a damn thing!
Best one of the day. :D
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DON'T interrupt him!! He has 106 messages at this point!! In all my years coming here, I have never seen someone have so many (not even close!) !!!! (and this doesn't even count the other forums!) . . He may break 200 by this evening!! Just don't interrupt . . He doesn't need people to answer him, he even answers himself!! smile Plus, you may break his concentration! . . I had no idea boiler rooms had internet connections!! smile
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107!!
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DON'T interrupt him!! He has 106 messages at this point!! In all my years coming here, I have never seen someone have so many (not even close!) !!!! (and this doesn't even count the other forums!) . . He may break 200 by this evening!! Just don't interrupt . . He doesn't need people to answer him, he even answers himself!! smile Plus, you may break his concentration! . . I had no idea boiler rooms had internet connections!! smile
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Knox , I think he is working from the boiler room of the local library and has two assistants that run upstairs to aquire reference books for him . He can't be getting all of this info from wikipedia because he needs the keyboard time on the threads !
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hmm . . makes sense . . as the other day he alluded to "working himself to death" . . . as if he couldn't work anymore then he already does (so no insurance). I KNOW he wouldn't just be posting on the net from his apartment constantly!! . . . because that would be goofing off!! Since he said he is "working himself to death"! It MUST be true!
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Knox , I think he is working from the boiler room of the local library and has two assistants that run upstairs to aquire reference books for him . He can't be getting all of this info from wikipedia because he needs the keyboard time on the threads !
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Getting to the point of being ridiculous! Why don't you use an example of a 4 year old breaking into your car! Sheesh!
I've caught people breaking into my car. Never caught a four year old yet. :(

Since I don;t know what your point is, I assume you are saying that you'd kill a four year old.

Dave
 
Knox , I think he is working from the boiler room of the local library and has two assistants that run upstairs to aquire reference books for him . He can't be getting all of this info from wikipedia because he needs the keyboard time on the threads !
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Knox is a Troll, who has no interest in posting on any of these threads, other than to harrass me. He follows me around on these forums like a poorly trained dog, seeking attention.

If he's your buddy, I'll keep that in mind.

Dave
 
Dave , Troll or no troll Knox is responding to your post with an alternertive point of veiw/oppinion jest/Pee taking/whatever . Its a Forum and people who live in glass houses should keep their windows clean ? I got a lot of Buddies and I also like throwing stones , but only in jest ! Chill Man !
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Then you are knowledgeable about firearms and how to handle them so basically we are in agreement. It is people with no training, no background with firearms, which bother me. Without the experience you have gained a person who just decides to start carrying becomes a threat to others themselves. All I am saying a person should know about the weapons and how to use the weapon before they start carrying a weapon.
 
Well you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I do have concerns about people deciding to carry without any training in the use of the weapon. You do not share that concern, which is fine, often people disagree with me. As I have stated I live in Arizona where people can carry and I know people who do. Some know how to use a weapon, some do not.

Recently here in Arizona our representative, Gabriel Giffords, was severely wounded by a mentally unstable individual. He also managed to kill others in attendance and wounded a number of others. Whether anyone in the crowd was carrying I do not know. The bad guy was jumped by a person in the crowd and stopped the shooting. If someone in the crowd was armed could a person, in the confusion immediately after Ms. Giffords was wounded, shoot the bad guy before he did further harm. We will never know the answer but I sure would not wanted to have been there, in the panic that ensued, with an untrained, unskilled individual firing away trying to shoot the bad guy.

That is only my opinion and yours is probably different. The fact that we disagree on the matter is of no great import. You have your opinion, I have mine.
 
Aw Dave . . don't be so serious. We are just joking around with you. If you can't laugh at yourself . then you must live in a pretty sad world. I certainly laugh at myself many times a day. i HAVE to!

btw . . I DID post in this thread regarding the subject (ONCE / how many times does someone NEED to post?) . . . . You? ONLY 14 times (so far) I think! MANY words and different scenarios / links / letters sent to Walgreens etc etc smile . . . . The good news is there is 70 something posts to go before 150 . . regarding the 'shooting people' topic / (at a photography site) smile

I also posted on topic in the Sigma thread ONCE . . the one were you are up to 40 something posts / links / photos / etc so far! Again . . how many times does a person NEED to state their views? Once was fine for me. If someone disagrees with me and my post (you did) . . it's cool. It's not important for me to keep going and keep going on a certain subject just because someone views something differently (though I admit I have been caught up a couple times myself and did it in the past) . . too much is just plain obsessive! Plus, I don't have the time. . . I have to work so I can pay for my insurance. smile Dave . . honestly, if you can't see the humor in all THIS discussion about guns / killing etc at a camera forum . . something is wrong. I'm just having a good natured laugh at how serious and silly it all is. Yea, you took a playful jab in the ribs from me . . but surely you have to see the point.
Knox is a Troll, who has no interest in posting on any of these threads, other than to harrass me. He follows me around on these forums like a poorly trained dog, seeking attention.

If he's your buddy, I'll keep that in mind.

Dave
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Best one of the day. :D
Things like that story actually occur sometimes in Arizona. About two years ago a guy approached an elderly lady in Tucson and demanded all of her cash. She opened her purse and gave the guy some change. He said he knew she has more money than that and she better turn it over.

So once again she reached into her purse and pulled out a .38 revolver. The guy turned around and ran like hell. As most of us would probably. She had a carry permit so the police said she did a good job and that was the end of it.
 
Dave , Troll or no troll Knox is responding to your post with an alternertive point of veiw/oppinion jest/Pee taking/whatever . Its a Forum and people who live in glass houses should keep their windows clean ? I got a lot of Buddies and I also like throwing stones , but only in jest ! Chill Man !
There is nothing in his post which has anything to do with what anyone said. It's simply typical of this low life's pattern of harrassment.

I'm not happy when someone feeds any troll, in his case a real low life.

You can do whatever you want to. I've never had a problem when your humor is aimed at me - Or didn't you notice?

He's, despite the disclaimers, a real pos and a broken record. He's not trying to be "funny." He's simply disrupting threads, and his so called life consists of being a Troll. What's particulerly pathetic from this human garbage is his iterated claims that "I'm only doing it to help you."

Dave
 
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