There won't be any D400 - DX format

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Reading Nikon ads and publications like Nikon Pro about the D7000, including it as a semi-pro camera and saying that "is not the D90 succesor", my thought is that the D7000 is the D300s successor. So maybe the D7000 is the actual -and only- DX flagship. Don´t you agree?
PS: I wish I would be wrong...
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You cannot make a statement about that just by reading into marketing blurb.

D7000 raised the game in many areas for DX, but the D300(s) still wins out in so many areas (better build, larger buffer, better autofocus, higher fps, cf card support), I cannot believe for a second that they'd leave a hole this large in the market.

There have been many rumours on the net, all bs & speculation but I'd expect a D400 DX to have an 18 mp sensor and provide improvements on the D7000 in all the areas highlighted above, such as: improvement on CAM3500 51 point AF system, up to 8 fps etc

But it's purely a guess.
Reading Nikon ads and publications like Nikon Pro about the D7000, including it as a semi-pro camera and saying that "is not the D90 succesor", my thought is that the D7000 is the D300s successor. So maybe the D7000 is the actual -and only- DX flagship. Don´t you agree?
PS: I wish I would be wrong...
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I'm hesitant to even respond. It really is beating a dead horse. However...

Nikon introduced toe D7000 and stopped producing the D90. The D300s remains in production.

The reason Nikon said the D7000 was not the D90 successor was so they could sell off the remaining D90 stock. It's that simple.
Reading Nikon ads and publications like Nikon Pro about the D7000, including it as a semi-pro camera and saying that "is not the D90 succesor", my thought is that the D7000 is the D300s successor. So maybe the D7000 is the actual -and only- DX flagship. Don´t you agree?
PS: I wish I would be wrong...
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I have been saying this since the D7000 came out. Grab a D300s while you still can. Either way the future for PRO is FX. I just hope that if they can only deliver a 16 or 18 MPX FX in D700 format that it at list is not expensive and retains the D300s price point. Otherwise it's Canon for me, sorry to say.
Reading Nikon ads and publications like Nikon Pro about the D7000, including it as a semi-pro camera and saying that "is not the D90 succesor", my thought is that the D7000 is the D300s successor. So maybe the D7000 is the actual -and only- DX flagship. Don´t you agree?
PS: I wish I would be wrong...
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Reading Nikon ads and publications like Nikon Pro about the D7000, including it as a semi-pro camera and saying that "is not the D90 succesor"
Nikon Pro says the D7000, with a "Scene" setting, is "semi-pro"? Show me a quote, link, image, whatever.

It is a very capable camera. but "Pro"? With a trailer hitch, I guess you probably can try hauling an Airstream with a Chevrolet Cobalt. Good luck.

JC
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I have been saying this since the D7000 came out. Grab a D300s while you still can. Either way the future for PRO is FX.
Balderdash ...

JC
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Going there, do not forget the tsunami effect, which has delayed all the plans by a good 6 to 9 months.

Also, I'm thinking that Nikon is a bit sitting on the fence between FX and DX, and may weigh two alternatives: top of the line DX (which would replace the D300s) OR entry FX (which would replace the D700) but maybe not willing to have both. While that would be understandable from a price point of view (both could be within a 200-300 bucks bracket only), the uses of DX and FX are in fact sufficiently different so that there could well be a full market for both.

I guess we'll have a clearer view by the end of the summer, when production at Sendai is about back on track

Tom
 
Reading Nikon ads and publications like Nikon Pro about the D7000, including it as a semi-pro camera and saying that "is not the D90 succesor", my thought is that the D7000 is the D300s successor. So maybe the D7000 is the actual -and only- DX flagship.
Nikon Pro 12.10 says on page 8 as first sentence of the article about the D7000:

"The release of a new Nikon Enthusiast DSLR is guaranteed to generate huge interest."

The word "semi-pro" or anything of what you mention above is not found in that article on page 8 or 9.

The latest issue (04.11) does not have anything other than an ad on the last page.

Nothing like "semi-pro camera and saying that is not the D90 successor" is to be found in those two issues.

Have I missed something? What Nikon Pro are you referring to?
Don’t you agree?
No.
PS: I wish I would be wrong...
You are.
 
I have been saying this since the D7000 came out.
Yes, you have also been saying you'll move to Canon. Why don't you? The 7D is such a nice camera. Go on...
 
Well, it is indeed a dead horse, but:

D100 --> D200 --> D300 --> D300s --> makes sense that there will be a D400 (or something) with the next generation sensor, which appears to be in the D7000 at this time, with further improvements. The D7000 is no semi-pro body.
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Reading Nikon ads and publications like Nikon Pro about the D7000, including it as a semi-pro camera and saying that "is not the D90 succesor"
Nikon Pro says the D7000, with a "Scene" setting, is "semi-pro"? Show me a quote, link, image, whatever.
It's obvious that the guy is reading a Spanish version of Nikon Pro, not the one you and I read, unless I am totally missing something.
 
I agree. Nikon’s labels are part of its advertising campaign; these labels do not indicate the quality or performance capability of the camera.

The updates have been evolutionary. Camera Y will have some new features but resemble its predecessor camera X and so on.

So every year or so a new body appears with slightly more megapixels, a slightly different processor, etc. That is a product of technology and marketing decision.

Does anyone really suspect the new (fill in your wish-D800/400/8000/ etc.) will be significantly different form the current model or have all the “newer” features available since the D 300?
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It's obvious that the guy is reading a Spanish version of Nikon Pro, not the one you and I read, unless I am totally missing something.
For whatever reason, some still hope that FX is the only way to go, and fervently wish this will happen because of economies of scale.

The economies of scale we saw with computers will not be there in cameras. 10's of millions of computer chips are produced every year. compared to very few FX sensors.

For some, I agree that FX really delivers the ultimate. But in reality, for the vast majority, there remains few advantages justifying spending what it takes to get an FX system. An FX system will always be more expensive than a DX system. Both will keep improving, but FX will always require more money.

Not so long ago, there was a real difference in IQ between DX and FX, the D300 was way below the D3. But now, compare the DXO numbers for IQ between the D7000 (DX) and the D700 or even the D3s, they are practically nil. You have to go to the D3x to see a difference again - and I suspect the D400 will get in D3X territyry, while the D4 will raise the bar. The only obvious advantages are in low-light photography and subject isolation through depth-of-field. And maybe the ability to print larger, almost poster size directly from FX - if you can afford the expense.

DX is to FX as 35mm was to 6x6. Two different systems, we only get confused because they share approximately the same form factor and lenses. In the past, Nikon and Canon produced 35mm systems, and left 6x6 to Hasselblad and Rollei - and Pentax :-)

We will see a Pro DX system, just have to let Nikon produce it when they will be ready.

JC
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Reading Nikon ads and publications like Nikon Pro about the D7000, including it as a semi-pro camera and saying that "is not the D90 succesor", my thought is that the D7000 is the D300s successor.
If that were so and Nikon was always honest about which camera replaces which camera, then they would have said that, "the D7000 is not the successor to the D90;" which presumably therefore has no successor, but rather "the D7000 is the successor to the D300s." Also, the D300s is not a "semi-pro" camera, it is a pro camera, and there is a place for a pro DX camera among professional photographers that a D7000 does not measure up to. Obviously the D7000 is the successor to the D90, they are far too alike for it not to be; whereas the differences between the D7000 and D300s are quite significant.
 
I have been saying this since the D7000 came out. Grab a D300s while you still can. Either way the future for PRO is FX.
Dude, you just gotta stop smoking your own dope.

Saying something over and over and over doesn't make it true. -iwbs
 
It's obvious that the guy is reading a Spanish version of Nikon Pro, not the one you and I read, unless I am totally missing something.
"The guy" - who released his works in that magazine four times - has read both English & Spanish versions that for sure are just the same publised all over Europe in different languages ;)

Never said that they wrote the words "Semi-pro" beside the D7000, but appearing this camera several times in a magazine that shows only targeted pro & semi-pro Nikon products, that was just my conclusion. If you read me carefully, you will realise that is NOT my desire...I will be very happy if I'm completely wrong! :)
 
... is not the D90 successor"/ is to be found in those two issues.

Have I missed something?
Yes, Nikon Pro 12/10 , pg 8 . Saying the same with other words...

And the D7000 can be seen again in the last issue, not only the last ad: Pg 49 where they answer to "pro" questions, one of them about the D7000. Mmm, really interesting... ;)
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