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Jaded Snapper said:
There you go again, looking at a tiny set of stats. Try looking at cyclists as a whole and the public as a whole. When you do, you will see that helmets do not save lives.

If you can't understand this you are too stupid to be on the Internet.
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Already asked and answered. I gave you long term crash data studies and you give me your feelings. You could have at least quoted some of the seriously flawed anti helmet studies. But you don't even have that. You have no arguement.

However, if you don't want to wear a helmet, then don't. I am fine with that. Darwin would also aprrove.

Oh, if you ever get a job that requires a hardhat, try to convince them that they shouldn't wear a hard hat on the job. That will go over just about as well as you trying to convince me with NO DATA that helmets are bad for cyclists. Come back and try again after you have a study done across all international boundries, since you state ALL cyclists in your hypothesis. Otherwise, you have nothing to say.

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-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida

I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
 
bikinchris said:
Jaded Snapper said:
There you go again, looking at a tiny set of stats. Try looking at cyclists as a whole and the public as a whole. When you do, you will see that helmets do not save lives.

If you can't understand this you are too stupid to be on the Internet.
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Already asked and answered. I gave you long term crash data studies and you give me your feelings. You could have at least quoted some of the seriously flawed anti helmet studies. But you don't even have that. You have no arguement.

However, if you don't want to wear a helmet, then don't. I am fine with that. Darwin would also aprrove.

Oh, if you ever get a job that requires a hardhat, try to convince them that they shouldn't wear a hard hat on the job. That will go over just about as well as you trying to convince me with NO DATA that helmets are bad for cyclists. Come back and try again after you have a study done across all international boundries, since you state ALL cyclists in your hypothesis. Otherwise, you have nothing to say.
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The question of whether people should be able to choose what they want or don't want to wear is "debatable." Facts however are not debatable.

Moreover, his first post on this question is insulting, ignorant, flame bait, and yes, "brain dead."

Your post is, err, "pathetic" because you posted facts instead of insults.... :D

Dave
 
nick_webster said:
You could have taken the easy route of taking each of Jaded Snapper's points and showing him, through careful reasoning and the use of facts, that he was wrong in his statements.

Instead you took the difficult way and pretty much wished him either serious harm or death. A brave choice and I salute you for it,

Nick
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I have only, humbly at that, confirmed his own wishes.
Rgds
 
Chato said:
bikinchris said:
Jaded Snapper said:
There you go again, looking at a tiny set of stats. Try looking at cyclists as a whole and the public as a whole. When you do, you will see that helmets do not save lives.

If you can't understand this you are too stupid to be on the Internet.
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Already asked and answered. I gave you long term crash data studies and you give me your feelings. You could have at least quoted some of the seriously flawed anti helmet studies. But you don't even have that. You have no arguement.

However, if you don't want to wear a helmet, then don't. I am fine with that. Darwin would also aprrove.

Oh, if you ever get a job that requires a hardhat, try to convince them that they shouldn't wear a hard hat on the job. That will go over just about as well as you trying to convince me with NO DATA that helmets are bad for cyclists. Come back and try again after you have a study done across all international boundries, since you state ALL cyclists in your hypothesis. Otherwise, you have nothing to say.
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The question of whether people should be able to choose what they want or don't want to wear is "debatable."
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It might be, but I know of virtually no jurisdiction that allows citizens that choice, except maybe Spain, where I am told that the right not to wear clothes is written into the constitution.
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Bob
 
bobn2 said:
Chato said:
bikinchris said:
Jaded Snapper said:
There you go again, looking at a tiny set of stats. Try looking at cyclists as a whole and the public as a whole. When you do, you will see that helmets do not save lives.

If you can't understand this you are too stupid to be on the Internet.
Click to expand...
Already asked and answered. I gave you long term crash data studies and you give me your feelings. You could have at least quoted some of the seriously flawed anti helmet studies. But you don't even have that. You have no arguement.

However, if you don't want to wear a helmet, then don't. I am fine with that. Darwin would also aprrove.

Oh, if you ever get a job that requires a hardhat, try to convince them that they shouldn't wear a hard hat on the job. That will go over just about as well as you trying to convince me with NO DATA that helmets are bad for cyclists. Come back and try again after you have a study done across all international boundries, since you state ALL cyclists in your hypothesis. Otherwise, you have nothing to say.
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The question of whether people should be able to choose what they want or don't want to wear is "debatable."
Click to expand...
It might be, but I know of virtually no jurisdiction that allows citizens that choice, except maybe Spain, where I am told that the right not to wear clothes is written into the constitution.
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On the one hand I probably would support the right of people not to wear clothes... :)

On the other, I'm going to be sorry about that ... :)



Dave
bobn2 said:
Bob
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Chato said:
bobn2 said:
Chato said:
bikinchris said:
Jaded Snapper said:
There you go again, looking at a tiny set of stats. Try looking at cyclists as a whole and the public as a whole. When you do, you will see that helmets do not save lives.

If you can't understand this you are too stupid to be on the Internet.
Click to expand...
Already asked and answered. I gave you long term crash data studies and you give me your feelings. You could have at least quoted some of the seriously flawed anti helmet studies. But you don't even have that. You have no arguement.

However, if you don't want to wear a helmet, then don't. I am fine with that. Darwin would also aprrove.

Oh, if you ever get a job that requires a hardhat, try to convince them that they shouldn't wear a hard hat on the job. That will go over just about as well as you trying to convince me with NO DATA that helmets are bad for cyclists. Come back and try again after you have a study done across all international boundries, since you state ALL cyclists in your hypothesis. Otherwise, you have nothing to say.
Click to expand...
The question of whether people should be able to choose what they want or don't want to wear is "debatable."
Click to expand...
It might be, but I know of virtually no jurisdiction that allows citizens that choice, except maybe Spain, where I am told that the right not to wear clothes is written into the constitution.
Click to expand...
On the one hand I probably would support the right of people not to wear clothes... :)

On the other, I'm going to be sorry about that ... :)

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Yeah, you did well to get that Speedo advertisement job. Do you think there's any more coming?
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Bob
 
bobn2 said:
Chato said:
On the one hand I probably would support the right of people not to wear clothes... :)

On the other, I'm going to be sorry about that ... :)

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Yeah, you did well to get that Speedo advertisement job. Do you think there's any more coming?
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The above was taken while shooting wildlife. This err, wild bird, called, "The Blue Butterbutt," wondered into the scene. It's a very close crop from three hundred yards away. On the other hand, I am a merciful man, and will NOT post a shot of the "Star Spangled Eagle Bird," which I also took in the same location, although a different year... :(

Dave
bobn2 said:
Bob
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Glad to be of help.
Marty4650 said:
Someone asked a question, and the folks here not only answered it superbly, but they also illustrated it in impeccable fashion.

You don't get service like this from every internet forum.

You guys are really good.

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-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida

I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
 
Where woulld your Forums be without a difference of oppinion by someone who is :-

Out to sell something , wants to promote something , has had an argument with their partner , feels bloody minded , wants postal revenge , thinks you are talking rollacks , has a lot to learn , needs a good hobby , the owner of a good camera , has a reasonable alternative arguement when enbriated, wants to irritate the goody goody Guys that know it all ! Come on ! Think about it ! I would not have any desire to listen to a lot of this dribble if there was not any input from Trolls !
I love them ! Long live Trolls!
Trolling , just Trolling, by the light of the silvery moon !
The true definition of Troll is Bloody minded Human Nature !
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Roygbiv
 
I usually find that a person who calls another person a **** Head is usually a **** Head..
 
Apologies for not wading through every single d*mn post in this topic, but ...

... the word 'troll' is as widely misused - even in its internet meaning - as the phrase 'ad hominem', which is also misused much more often than it is used correctly (it DOESN'T simply mean 'getting personal'!).
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Panas0n!c Lum!x FZ-38
 
What an excellent example of 'show not tell' this thread is...

PS I believe it used to be the case that London hospitals called cyclists 'organ donors'...
 
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