Sony HX9V Going Back - It Royally Sucks

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the PR only includes a few details to sell the product. You do not find out about many issues like this ,or the inability to control the flash until you buy it, or read an in depth review,which still does not exist for this camera.That is why we are here reading about it.
 
For a $350 camera (started at$400), I'd expect to be able to set compression level.
Why? give me a good reason why this feature is so important in a fully automatic p&s camera, assuming that the fixed compression is set to best.
Judging by what you've said, I don't think you understand the issue at all.
You are absolutely right. I really don't understand the issue here. Here is what I fail to understand and please enlighten me if you understand it better but try to be positive and constructive if you are able to.

1. I don't understand how someone can spend 350$ on a camera without checking first if it has the set of features he desires and then comes home and starts moaning.

2. I don't understand why the lack of compression control in a fully automatic p&s camera is so important up to the point of calling it - "It Royally Sucks"

3. I don't understand how come one who is complaining so hard about a missing feature hasn't actually got a clue about file compression, dpi and print size at the first place.

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Why offer users a choice of resolution? Why offer a set of different modes? Why offer a choice of metering? A choice of AF? After all it's just a P&S.

This wouldn't even be an issue if the value chosen for compression wasn't so absurdly high to the point that it actually degrades the image.

Selecting compression ratio is something that should be there given that a) this camera is in the upper mid-range/lower high-end when it comes to P&S pricing and b) the idiots doing the firmware chose such a bad compression level.

They already cheapened out by using ND filter instead of a real aperture and they couldn't give this in return?

I guess some people have been beaten by manufacturers for so long they accept dumbed down and crippled cameras as normal and satisfactory.
For a $350 camera (started at$400), I'd expect to be able to set compression level.
Why? give me a good reason why this feature is so important in a fully automatic p&s camera, assuming that the fixed compression is set to best.
Judging by what you've said, I don't think you understand the issue at all.
You are absolutely right. I really don't understand the issue here. Here is what I fail to understand and please enlighten me if you understand it better but try to be positive and constructive if you are able to.

1. I don't understand how someone can spend 350$ on a camera without checking first if it has the set of features he desires and then comes home and starts moaning.

2. I don't understand why the lack of compression control in a fully automatic p&s camera is so important up to the point of calling it - "It Royally Sucks"

3. I don't understand how come one who is complaining so hard about a missing feature hasn't actually got a clue about file compression, dpi and print size at the first place.

Cheers
Moti

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http://www.facebook.com/pixpix.photos
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I am not looking for Nikon D3 performance. This is basic as being able to change the metering pattern.
 
I will assume 90% of the people buying a p&s camera have never shot any form of a DSLR entry level or not. I started with a DSLR and look for many of the same features with in reason of what a P&S does.

I like having a hot shoe and the HX9V does not have one so I bought the Metz 28 CS 2 slave flash (never opened it due to camera return)

My only need for a p&s this time was a big zoom capable lens period.

In many ways I miss shooing film. It was so easy and straight forward. For those shooting digital for the first time and never shooting film it is like learning to tell time on a digital watch or via what time does your computer say or "google" the time

Point is if you were forced to envision the result before taking the picture you became a really good photographer regardless if you got paid or not IMO.

I read Tom Hogan's review on the Canon G12, LX-5 (I still own) and the P7000. It seems the G12 is the better of the lot. Too bad the Nikon had potential. I may go to the Canon G12 (back to canon for a more zoom p&s)
 
I sold a Canon G10, which has most of the manual settings of a DSLR, to buy the HX9V. I didn't use most of the settings of the G10, not because I didn't understand how to use them, but because I much prefer the convenience of automatic settings. Of course on occasion the results will be inferior, but that's a trade-off I'm willing to live with. Frankly I don't know why anyone who is truly serious about photography would buy a small sensor camera like a point and shoot anyway.
I will assume 90% of the people buying a p&s camera have never shot any form of a DSLR entry level or not. I started with a DSLR and look for many of the same features with in reason of what a P&S does.

I like having a hot shoe and the HX9V does not have one so I bought the Metz 28 CS 2 slave flash (never opened it due to camera return)

My only need for a p&s this time was a big zoom capable lens period.

In many ways I miss shooing film. It was so easy and straight forward. For those shooting digital for the first time and never shooting film it is like learning to tell time on a digital watch or via what time does your computer say or "google" the time

Point is if you were forced to envision the result before taking the picture you became a really good photographer regardless if you got paid or not IMO.

I read Tom Hogan's review on the Canon G12, LX-5 (I still own) and the P7000. It seems the G12 is the better of the lot. Too bad the Nikon had potential. I may go to the Canon G12 (back to canon for a more zoom p&s)
 
I sold a Canon G10, which has most of the manual settings of a DSLR, to buy the HX9V. I didn't use most of the settings of the G10, not because I didn't understand how to use them, but because I much prefer the convenience of automatic settings. Of course on occasion the results will be inferior, but that's a trade-off I'm willing to live with. Frankly I don't know why anyone who is truly serious about photography would buy a small sensor camera like a point and shoot anyway.
That makes no sense to me to sell a G10 for this. You can shoot full automatic with the "G" series camera regardless of what you did not use. To me you bought a camera twice. It's like someone who wants a DSLR and shoots in full auto, so what you get the shot no one needs to know how. The proof is in the print.

Just because one is serious about photography one does not always have the need to carry a DSLR or a camera bigger than a compact type size. To go along with a DSLR or micro four thirds you still need a camera bag to carry everything which is bigger.

Maybe you are traveling wherever and can't really carry a shoulder bag.

Basic functions should be part of any point and shoot no matter the cost. Able to set compression (JPEG) regardless if it can or can not do RAW. I always will use the best megapixel ability of the camera. Exposure compensation and flash output compensation and No freaking touch screen technology please...
I will assume 90% of the people buying a p&s camera have never shot any form of a DSLR entry level or not. I started with a DSLR and look for many of the same features with in reason of what a P&S does.

I like having a hot shoe and the HX9V does not have one so I bought the Metz 28 CS 2 slave flash (never opened it due to camera return)

My only need for a p&s this time was a big zoom capable lens period.

In many ways I miss shooing film. It was so easy and straight forward. For those shooting digital for the first time and never shooting film it is like learning to tell time on a digital watch or via what time does your computer say or "google" the time

Point is if you were forced to envision the result before taking the picture you became a really good photographer regardless if you got paid or not IMO.

I read Tom Hogan's review on the Canon G12, LX-5 (I still own) and the P7000. It seems the G12 is the better of the lot. Too bad the Nikon had potential. I may go to the Canon G12 (back to canon for a more zoom p&s)
 
Why offer users a choice of resolution? Why offer a set of different modes? Why offer a choice of metering? A choice of AF? After all it's just a P&S.
Because these all make a difference.
This wouldn't even be an issue if the value chosen for compression wasn't so absurdly high to the point that it actually degrades the image.
This doesn't make a difference...the value they have chosen is based on their own testing and is considered the 'best'. The compression technology is changing every year. You can't say the ratio is absurdly high if you don't have images at different ratios from this camera to compare.

You are right in saying that they are probably trying to fit as many images on a card as possible but the reality is so far this camera's IQ looks pretty darn good for a tiny sensor...even at 100%. The only images I have seen from a superzoom that seem a little more detailed are from the Nikon P300/P500 and that is probably due to the fact that it is only 12 Mp...something I wish the Sony was. Unfortunately the Nikon has some lousy colours and the video doesn't compare to the Sony.

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you guys have me all messed up. I'm very new to any and all of this.

So tell me, is the HX9v any good or what????? Mine is to arive tomorrow, on the 12th, now grant ya, all I did was earn points at sonyrewards dot com. It didn't cost me anything. But did I waste my points????????????????
 
iamphil wrote:

The only images I have seen from a superzoom that seem a little more detailed are from the Nikon P300/P500 and that is probably due to the fact that it is only 12 Mp...something I wish the Sony was. Unfortunately the Nikon has some lousy colours and the video doesn't compare to the Sony.
How about the Fuji 550EXR?
 
The hx9v is a very capable camera. Since you are about to have it in your hands you should just try it out and see if it meets your needs. Obviously there is a huge variety of opinions on this camera so just have fun with it and see if you love it or hate it. No point in being worried about it when it's about to arrive in the mail and you can find out for yourself anyway.

I've tried the hx9v and I almost love it. The in camera noise reduction can be pretty heavy at times which results in smearing of some colors and details. This isn't noticeable at all in smaller size images, which look fantastic. Give it a try and decide for yourself.
you guys have me all messed up. I'm very new to any and all of this.

So tell me, is the HX9v any good or what????? Mine is to arive tomorrow, on the 12th, now grant ya, all I did was earn points at sonyrewards dot com. It didn't cost me anything. But did I waste my points????????????????
 
you guys have me all messed up. I'm very new to any and all of this.

So tell me, is the HX9v any good or what????? Mine is to arive tomorrow, on the 12th, now grant ya, all I did was earn points at sonyrewards dot com. It didn't cost me anything. But did I waste my points????????????????
Hi Harry -

I'm very pleased with my HX9V, but I'm somewhat of an "average" user.

I suggest if you haven't already, you check out these "professional" reviews:

http://www.digitalversus.com/sony-cyber-shot-hx9v-p360_10599_16.html

and

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/comparisons/2011-compact-gps-ultra-zoom-cameras

When it arrives, have fun with it.
 
The Fuji is quite nice but I don't think it resolves any better than the Sony and the video doesn't match up at all.
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'Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it... albeit probably in colour the second time around.'
 
you guys have me all messed up. I'm very new to any and all of this.

So tell me, is the HX9v any good or what????? Mine is to arive tomorrow, on the 12th, now grant ya, all I did was earn points at sonyrewards dot com. It didn't cost me anything. But did I waste my points????????????????




























the HX9v is my 1st digital camera & I was able to take these pictures on my 1st day out with the camera so it's either a good camera or I should have been a photographer.

& on that note I wouldn't care if the file was only 30K as long the pictures come out looking good.
 
you guys have me all messed up. I'm very new to any and all of this.

So tell me, is the HX9v any good or what????? Mine is to arive tomorrow, on the 12th, now grant ya, all I did was earn points at sonyrewards dot com. It didn't cost me anything. But did I waste my points????????????????
Don't worry about what you read on the forums on in the various reviews. You'll see many people saying it's a good camera and then some saying it's an ok camera. Not many will say it's terrible... but even if some do... that's just an opinion and there isn't a single camera that everyone will agree on.

You'll look far and wide and never find a camera that has no negative aspects to it because EVERY camera has compromises of some sort (image quality, size, speed, zoom range, cost... just to name a few).

My best advice would be to pick a camera (which you've already done) and then just use it, take hundreds and hopefully thousands of pics with it and learn all its features and above all just enjoy photography.

The camera is just a tool... don't obsess over whether it's a perfect choice or not... use the tool to get some interesting pictures and forget about reading comments and pros and cons of the camera itself after you get it. Don't worry about the nitpicking over details in reviews or online forums. You made a great choice because having A camera to take pictures with is a lot better than having none. :)

As you become a better photographer the camera actually becomes better as well because you can learn to take advantage of its strengths and minimize any possible weaknesses as well.

Focus on the positives and not the negatives.

In my opinion the HX9V has good image quality, good operational speed, great HD video quality with good sound quality, takes great panorama pics, has a good zoom range and nice wide angle capability, has a great LCD screen, has GPS and is a nice compact size.

I think it's an excellent choice and you'll have a great time with it.
 
Have you EVER seen a 3x5 that looked bad on an LCD?
Webshots has 150 kb images that look great fullscreen on a laptop
you guys have me all messed up. I'm very new to any and all of this.

So tell me, is the HX9v any good or what????? Mine is to arive tomorrow, on the 12th, now grant ya, all I did was earn points at sonyrewards dot com. It didn't cost me anything. But did I waste my points????????????????




























the HX9v is my 1st digital camera & I was able to take these pictures on my 1st day out with the camera so it's either a good camera or I should have been a photographer.

& on that note I wouldn't care if the file was only 30K as long the pictures come out looking good.
 
you guys have me all messed up. I'm very new to any and all of this.

So tell me, is the HX9v any good or what????? Mine is to arive tomorrow, on the 12th, now grant ya, all I did was earn points at sonyrewards dot com. It didn't cost me anything. But did I waste my points????????????????
the HX9v is my 1st digital camera & I was able to take these pictures on my 1st day out with the camera so it's either a good camera or I should have been a photographer.

& on that note I wouldn't care if the file was only 30K as long the pictures come out looking good.
they still look good at 100%
 

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