Best budget Telephoto Zoom for NEX

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Hey all,

In a perfect world i would be able to afford the Sony E mount 18-200 lens, but as a student it is near impossible at the current asking price. I was wondering what are some of the best zoom lenses for the NEX under 300 dollars, and which adapter will i need with it? I would be using it for pretty much everything from landscapes and portraits to sports. Also, how reliable is the autofocus on SAM and SSM lenses when shooting moving subjects? Any input would be appreciate, thanks :D
 
Reports that the SAM/SSM focusing is slow with the Alpha adapter, but then again, you get manual focus with anything else, so it's all relative. Still, it sounds like it could be a problem with moving subjects.

I sometimes use an adapted 55-200, but I would like to upgrade to the Sony 55-200 for E-mount which will probably be out soon.
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Gary W.
 
The best option is likely to be the native e-mount 55-200 that is supposedly due out some time in 2011. I'm planning to get one for video primarily. I'd normally use my DSLR for shooting stills with a tele, but a tele on NEX would also be handy on vacations when I want to leave the DSLR behind.
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I don't need it immediately, it's actually more of a want than a need. I would like to have a zoom lens but am not really willing to spend 500+ dollars on one with a student's income. It's becoming frustrating being limited with my 18-55mm lens and I would like to upgrade with the best yet cheapest possible lens. I guess preferably I would like to have it by august for a NASCAR race i am attending (even if autofocus couldn't handle fast cars, it would be awesome to get close ups when they're sitting still). Is there an estimated time and/or price for the 55-200mm e mount? If the current is 1000 i couldn't imagine the 55-200 being more than half off the price difference.
 
Nice, if possible can you find me a link to the exact one? What type of adapter would i need for it? :)
 
I've used quite a few budget zoom lenses and they're all very good. Right now though I'm using an all-in-one zoom lens, Tamron 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6. Quite sharp :) Got it for $120 shipped from eBay :)
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Tamron seem like a good choice for me too.. I ordered Tamron SP 35-210mm Adaptall 2 lens. I've seen some good picture shot by that on net. cost me 90 bucks. I'm still thinking which system to upgrade. So with adaptall 2 lenses i don't have to worry because it fits into any DSLR system.

I've used MD Rokkor Zoom 75-200 f/4.5. That lens and Rokkor 70-210mm f/4 adapted by the leica for their zoom. 75-200 f/4.5 is a good lens but sadly got destroyed while trying to di-assembled for cleaning.

For now i'm happy with the MC Rokkor 200mm f4 for the long end.





 
I have the SEL18200 and a Vivitar Series 1 Macro 70-210mm MF f3.5.
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The Vivitar goes for about $50-$100 on places like ebay.

It is big and heavy, lacks IS and is no match for the SEL18200 in terms of handling.

But it still takes very decent images.

I recommend going this route: for less than $100 (including adapter) you'll have the extra zoom that your SEL1855 lacks.

You can go smaller and lighter with APS-C only tele-zoom lenses (Canon EF-S, Nikon-DX), but it won't get any cheaper. Expect to pay $300 for up to 200mm, f4.5 or so.

 
I don't need it immediately, it's actually more of a want than a need. I would like to have a zoom lens but am not really willing to spend 500+ dollars on one with a student's income. It's becoming frustrating being limited with my 18-55mm lens and I would like to upgrade with the best yet cheapest possible lens. I guess preferably I would like to have it by august for a NASCAR race i am attending (even if autofocus couldn't handle fast cars, it would be awesome to get close ups when they're sitting still). Is there an estimated time and/or price for the 55-200mm e mount? If the current is 1000 i couldn't imagine the 55-200 being more than half off the price difference.
The a-mount version is around $250 (maybe less?) so I would imagine, as someone else had posted, that the e-mount would be around $300, as it would probably have OSS. Just a guess, though. I don't know that an exact number has been specified. I'd be pretty happy at a $250 price-point, I think (with OSS -- $200 without).

Rumor has it that it may be released at the end of the month with the 30mm. Or maybe that is just "announced"? Anyway, we'll find out soon.
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which Vivitar budget lens/mount I should be looking for?

1. some mentioned here that Series I is good, but then which mount?

for instance I can get a very old ones with Nikon mount or newer (as it seems) with Canon mount...

2. as for the range, I'd like to have at least 200mm. and since I've got SEL 18-55, I was thinking of getting something starting from 50 or 70mm... am I correct that these lenses will be better than similarly dated 28-200mm?

3. am I somehow limited by the NEX adapters? (this should be the first question).

4. what about tripod mount for those heavy lenses? should they have one or I should be getting it independently?

I'm puzzled a bit..please advise
cheers

PS. here's a newer S1 it seems, Canon mount http://img17.allegroimg.pl/photos/oryginal/15/95/14/71/1595147182_1

here an older one, also Canon mount



here another with Pentax mount
http://img08.allegroimg.pl/photos/oryginal/15/93/15/02/1593150297_5

..and some old pal for Nikon



as you can see, there's a lot of these... which to choose?
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For Series 1, of the manual focus era, there are two considerations. First is actual manufacturer, Vivitar used many on Series 1, and quality supposedly varied. Ideally you buy one that has serial number starting with 28 indicating Komine was the manufacturer. For more about this subject see: htt p : www.robertstech.com/vivitar.htm

I have two Komine/Viivitar's for my Nex and they are nice. I haven't tried the others because I'm not that into experimentation.

As for mount, for manual lenses you buy one for $20 on ebay. They are just a metal tube of the right length with the right connection on each side. I'd recommend either Canon FD or Nikon F, since after buying one of those adapters you get access to lots of high quality old lenses. You could also buy the first Series 1 that looks good and choose your mount to match it, but again one Canon FD or Nikon F adapter opens up the biggest world for you.

Most people say to stay away from manual focus era superzooms, like 28-200, because they weren't very good back then. I can't offer first hand testimony since I have followed the accepted wisdom. I can say that the old primes are great and the old telezooms are ok but big and heavy compared to today's stuff.

You don't need a tripod at 200mm (300mm w crop factor) for outdoor shooting. You might like to have one, but you can easily get sharp pictures. I've actually shot at 400mm (600mm with crop factor) on the Nex without a tripod, but trying to hold it steady enough to focus is unpleasant and so difficult you will probably miss any subject that moves faster than the Great Pyramid.

I have, however, arrived at the "outside the box" conclusion that I am going to get the best results with a "low light camera", the Nex, and a bright light camera that is a superzoom point and shoot that comes with a zoom that goes up over 800mm. I think the thing to do is to match the sensor size to the light. For low light you need a big sensor. When you have bright outdoor light having the zoom flexibility of a 25-800mm lens in a "fits in your hand" package can't be beat. Image quality is fine and you can't tell me that "you never need 800mm" or that "I'll always have that zoom range handy for my APC size camera when I want it" Rather than change lenses, indoors to out, I change cameras.
 
thanks SO MUCH for that info!!!

i think i'm going to get the Canon adapter as it seems i can potentially buy more Canon FD lenses where i live and they're somewhat cheaper. there are some 70-210 lenses available here for peanuts, i will try to get some ;)

indeed ebay sells lots of those (shipped from china) and actually there are some adapters with a tripod mount. i am thinking of those as some lenses can be heavy and i'm afraid of damaging original NEX mount... since the camera is so light.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Adapter-Canon-FD-Lens-SONY-E-Mount-NEX5-NEX3-US-/290557529771?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a6940eab

what do you think of it?

thanks again.
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My 2p worth....

I went with a Tokina 60-300mm in OM fit. Not to heavy & 300mm nice to have.

I only paid £20 so not much of a gamble & I could have sold on if I didn't like it.

A long range sample at 300mm hand held.



 
I have mounted the Nex with the 70-210 on the Nex's tripod socket. It is ok, but it is about at the limit of what feels safe. (I have mostly handheld that length, as I said.) My tripod use with that lens has been so limited that I wouldn't go so far as to say that in actual field conditions (I've only tested it) you might not be safer with the tripod mount on the adapter if you want to use a tripod.

The tripod mount on the adapter adds a little bulk that you won't want if you are going to handhold 98% of the time. Remember if you ever buy an old 400mm class lens for the Nex it will need its own tripod mount, (and should have it) which will be a necessity since the adapter mount will not be close enough to the new balance point.
 
thanks for the input.
this is very helpful.

i'm now hunting for something! :)
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Tokina RMC 80-200mm f4 is a cheap but decent push-pull also - these are all hand-held, click Originals for pixel-peeping:

jpg straight from camera at near end:





mid-range, with a little crop/colour/contrast/unsharp mask:





200mm:





Alan
 
I agree push pull isn't the best. But the push pull do low price. You can buy it for 300-400$ ( I bought my for 250euro). And 2 ring version cost around 700-800$.

This lens is good @ 2.8 so you can use it for portrait. I like this lens for the price of course.

Last think with this lens you can use X2 adaptator if you chose F4 lens it's difficulte to use X2...

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I used to use a Sigma 70-210 Kappa II 3.5-4.5 MF. It can still be found and is one of the sharpest telezooms ever made. Decent rendering, too.
 

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