Travelling to Hong Kong / Shenzhen / Beijing any gear recommended?

rodmanlab

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Hey guys,

I will be travelling to China next week for about 10 days for business but will have the opportunity to visit Hong Kong, Shenzhen and Beijing.

Asides from the obvious inmense opportunity to take my Nikon D7000 and fill up 32GB combined amount of memory cards (4x 4GB Sandisk Extreme III & Pro) I want to make sure I don't miss out on some good photo gear.

Any recommendations please?

Here is a list of my complete gear:
  • Nikon 50mm f/1.8
  • Nikon 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6 VR
  • Nikon 70-300mm f/4-5.6G
  • Tokina 100mm f/2.8 AT-X PRo Macro
  • Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X
  • Quantaray QSX-DigiPro 8500 Tripod
  • Infrared remote
  • Time lapse remote
  • LaCie 500GB external rugged drive
  • Nikon SB-600 AF Speedlight
I want to take my Tokina 11-16mm, the Nikon 70-300mm and my 18-105mm which I have to say I am very satisfied with.

Thanks!
 
Well, I have a backpack that holds EVERYTHING, it's OK when going strictly from place to place but super heavy for just walking around town, for that I have a Sling from Kata, which I adore but allows me for camera plus 2 extra lenses (or 1 lens + SB600)

What do you think about the lenses?

Thanks!
 
What do you think about the lenses?
take 11-300mm range, 3 lenses.

the external drive for download from card? keep it in the luggage. other choice, bring more memory cards. 8gb or 16gb.

as for tripod, i hardly use it. i check my itinerary, if there will be night shot that need tripod, i carry along. if no, left it in the hotel room. flash will be hardly use too.
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Here is a list of my complete gear:
  • Nikon 50mm f/1.8
  • Nikon 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6 VR
  • Nikon 70-300mm f/4-5.6G
  • Tokina 100mm f/2.8 AT-X PRo Macro
  • Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X
  • Quantaray QSX-DigiPro 8500 Tripod
  • Infrared remote
  • Time lapse remote
  • LaCie 500GB external rugged drive
  • Nikon SB-600 AF Speedlight
I was there last year around two years ago (well, Shenzhen only as a continental gateway to HK, but there is very little to see/do tourism-wise there anyway).

I take it that your 70-300 is the non-VR version, so the tripod may be useful. I'd take the 11-16 (which I also have and enjoy immensly for urban landscapes), the 50 for low-light street / museum shooting, and the 70-300 (nice for reaching from Kowloon to Central in HK, and vice versa, or for architectural details). Be aware that timings are quite different from Western ones in terms of opening hours, so plan accordingly (lunch & dinner are amazingly early for a Southern-Europe guy like me, which means you'll probably be eating at times you would have expected to be shooting dusk)

Tom
 
I've been reading about this as well, some of the best shooting is done very early, not just because of light conditions but also, like you mentioned, their habits are to wake up quite early.

Any gear worth looking for there? maybe a must have lens that you guys recommend?

Thanks!
 
I've been reading about this as well, some of the best shooting is done very early, not just because of light conditions but also, like you mentioned, their habits are to wake up quite early.
In the case of Beijing, there is very strong and visible pollution, which grows as the day passes so you will avoid part of it by shooting early in the morning (see http://www.toubab.org/photo/index.php/Chine/Pekin-07 for example, shot mid-afternoon). In Hong Kong, there are clouds & fog pretty much all the time, so it really is more a matter of luck. Nice thing also by getting up early is the always photogenic tai-chi sessions in the gardens!
Any gear worth looking for there? maybe a must have lens that you guys recommend?
See http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=38053855 (the shop I was referring to is Hing Lee Camera; be sure to taste the roast goose at Yung Kee about 100m east!)
Enjoy!
 
Asides from the obvious inmense opportunity to take my Nikon D7000 and fill up 32GB combined amount of memory cards (4x 4GB Sandisk Extreme III & Pro) I want to make sure I don't miss out on some good photo gear.
Just so you know, that is only 16gb of space as written.
 
Oh man so sorry, I meant to say 4x8GB, got two 8GB Sandisk Extreme III SDHC and just purchased two 8GB Sandisk Extreme Pro ... want to check what's the big hype about these.

I'll look for a good price for the 16GB versions in China, hopefully better than here.

Thanks for noticing this!
 
That's a lot of gear for any trip.

You may not want to hear it, but I've done plenty of travel (business and pleasure) and I've learned the hard way that the slr and extra lenses have never enhanced my experience or memories. It's always gotten in the way. For me, a top quality compact is the only way to go.

Yes, you have the potential to get better quality images w/ the dslr, but you'll likely get more interesting images w/ a compact...plenty suitable for enlargements and framing. I go to HK every other year, but 2004 was the last time w/ a DSLR.

A couple of tips for HK: avoid the subway and take the bus...you'll see much more, it's very comfortable and you'll get lots of photo opportunities. Also, take the Star Ferry as much as possible. It's the best value, most scenic, transportation ride in the world. Finally, in your free time hang out at the mid-levels escalators for lots of interesting sights and super photo ops.

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Thanks for the feedback, I have to say that someone would have to pry my Nikon D7000 off my hands when dead, love that camera so much that would rather go with an "all-in-one" lens and sacrifice some quality in lieu of the control I get over my pictures.

Seen some pretty nice compacts out there and respect them, but even at their highest quality still no match ... but agree with you that bringing my full gear would be too much.

Any comments about the new Tamron 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD ? That sounds like the kind of lens for a trip like this, I love my 18-105mm zoom but the range doesn't do much for me.
 
rodmanlab wrote:

I want to take my Tokina 11-16mm, the Nikon 70-300mm and my 18-105mm which I have to say I am very satisfied with.

Apologies for long post:--

The photographers dilemma! You want to take everything but you have to carry it  We have all been there. For me it is about trying to balance the inconvenience of carrying all your photo kit along with your work gear, laptop, chargers, phone etc. If you are carrying a laptop then backup to that and leave the external drive at home.

Remember you will now longer be in Texas Toto – China is crowded, and very busy, you need to think about how you will manage in a strange country while carrying a load of photo gear?

A great deal depends on what your photographic style is?

I don’t do flash photography so I won’t be bringing the SB-600.

Personally unless you are into long distant people photos the 70 – 300 will probably not get much use.

Tripod – always won’t to use one but very rarely do. Useful in HK for night shots of the light show on HK Island from Kowloon. Everywhere else is likely to be too crowded to set up.

I suspect that the 18 -105mm will be on your camera 98% of the time and it will cope with most of what you want, lens wise. You could ideally use a wider lens and this is why I went with the 16 – 85mm as it gets you into true wide angle territory (24mm FOV 35mm equiv). You can always shoot a quick “pano” to extend FOV (PTGui does an excellent job of stitching) if needed – subject movement permitting.

The 11-16mm and 50mm are tempting to take. It depends on how much wide angle photography you normally do – getting up close and using that 11mm FOV? The 50mm is great for low light and more importantly reduced DOF. No VR actually reduces the effective difference between the 18 -105mm, – subject movement accepted, and if you are wide open DOF is very shallow (good and bad).

So, I would travel light and enjoy the experience of a different culture. The 18 – 105mm gives you 28mm to 160mm coverage in old money which is great; we are just spoiled in the digital age. If you can’t bear to go with only one lens, and a backup is always comforting then the 11 – 16mm for exaggerated perspective shots and / or the 50mm for limited DOF could come along. DO take a P&S as well so that you can have a camera with you at all times. I use a Canon S95 – excellent and F2 lens makes it far more useable then you might think. High iso performance is also a revelation compared to my previous P&S’s.

As for buying gear in China / HK – Don’t. Look at the saving from buying from internet in USA and ask yourself is it worth the hassle / let down if it goes wrong. They know you are a foreigner and if someone has returned a lens for a non – obvious defect such as a decentred element, you are going to get it!

Buying kit is a gamble – are you feeling lucky today? If you decide to gamble make sure a signed international warranty is in the box you actually carry away.

I have worked in China for several years, as a foreigner you will find it quite different from USA and perhaps not like what you imagine. The last USA guy I spoke to who came to China for the first time said that “it was nothing like the China portrayed on TV and in newspapers”.

China is very safe from a personal safety viewpoint, the people are very friendly and helpful and I hope you have a good time.

Remember HK mainly uses UK 3 pin sockets while China has 2 pin round sockets, so you need an adapter for your chargers etc.

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Ian
 
Thanks for the feedback, I have to say that someone would have to pry my Nikon D7000 off my hands when dead, love that camera so much that would rather go with an "all-in-one" lens and sacrifice some quality in lieu of the control I get over my pictures.
I like mine, too, but it stays close to home where it stops action, blows out distracting backgrounds and takes low light portraits. If I did photography for pay, then I'd likely travel w/ full frame and the and the pro lenses.
Seen some pretty nice compacts out there and respect them, but even at their highest quality still no match ... but agree with you that bringing my full gear would be too much.
I normally print 8x10/12. Canon S90 does remarkably well for that, and is actually better suited, in many instances, for lowish light travel scenes. f/2 is great. There are so many elements at work for really good pictures, and absolute, per pixel IQ quality is near the bottom of the list when comparing digital cameras in 2011.
Any comments about the new Tamron 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD ? That sounds like the kind of lens for a trip like this, I love my 18-105mm zoom but the range doesn't do much for me.
Looks big. Don't use zooms, just small, fast primes. Frankly, if I were dropped into HK by parachute with only the d7k, I'd be happy w/ just one small prime at any focal length between 20 - 50mm.

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BIG sensors!
 
Thanks so much, I think that your comments about shopping there makes a lot of sense and didn't consider that ... maybe only sealed items?

I've heard that Sigma lenses are great buys in HK ...

I think that I'll carry 3 lenses in total, one will definitely be the 18-105mm and since I'll be there for about two weeks I can always leave the lenses at my Hotel room depending on what I have planned for the day.

The 70-300mm is not a VR so I might end up leaving it home, it's a great lens but I don't have a very steady hand so I normally need to shoot at higher ISOs / Speed combinations which normally can do with decent light, since the places will be crowded that pretty much rules at the tripod.
 
China is very safe from a personal safety viewpoint, the people are very friendly and helpful and I hope you have a good time.
One does have to careful about pickpockets and petty theft. Keep your valuables close.
Remember HK mainly uses UK 3 pin sockets while China has 2 pin round sockets, so you need an adapter for your chargers etc.
Shenzhen area uses 3-pin flat type connectors wherein two of them are angled. Most hotels will also supply 2-pin US type sockets.
 
Remember HK mainly uses UK 3 pin sockets while China has 2 pin round sockets, so you need an adapter for your chargers etc.
Shenzhen area uses 3-pin flat type connectors wherein two of them are angled. Most hotels will also supply 2-pin US type sockets.
Sorry for that, I am in Brazil at the moment and had a senior moment.

LonelyPixel is correct China has 3 pin flat type socket with 2 angled connectors which is normally used for high power items eg electric kettles. This socket is normally combined with a 2 pin flat (parallel) socket used for low power battery chargers etc.

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Ian
 
Just back from Beijing and was very well served by the d7000 and a 18-200. Though I often wanted a wide angle.
 
depending what type of activity you will be doing...tripod will be useful. have fun there. i cant wait to go back there.
 
I've never tried the 18-200mm but sounds very interesting, I wonder how it compares to the Tamron 18-270mm.

Thanks for advice, I think that a street zoom + ultra wide zoom should do for the city, I think the 70-300mm would do better with a tripod or monopod anyway.
 

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