Help for color with Epson 2200/2100

PGB #125625 · Nov 24, 2002

I'm using a D60, JPEG files, PS6 with color space Adobe RGB 1998, my screen is calibrated, I'm using Epson Premium semigloss photo paper and have big troubles in getting the right colors with my Epson 2100:

The only way to get right colors is to use the set up "Photo Enhance 4" and that's not normal; if I use "No calibration" my photos are too dark and too green, if I use "Epson calibration" they are too pink; the result is not better if on the Printing Space I select "same as the source" or "Epson 2100" or "Adobe RGB 1998".

I have tried nearly 60 different combinations without success. What am I doing wrong?

Thank you for your help, I start to be lost and expect to get high quality prints with this printer.
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PGB

Igor Shpak · Nov 24, 2002

http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7_print/ps7_print_mac.htm

Read this article.

PGB said:
I'm using a D60, JPEG files, PS6 with color space Adobe RGB 1998,
my screen is calibrated, I'm using Epson Premium semigloss photo
paper and have big troubles in getting the right colors with my
Epson 2100:

The only way to get right colors is to use the set up "Photo
Enhance 4" and that's not normal; if I use "No calibration" my
photos are too dark and too green, if I use "Epson calibration"
they are too pink; the result is not better if on the Printing
Space I select "same as the source" or "Epson 2100" or "Adobe RGB
1998".

I have tried nearly 60 different combinations without success. What
am I doing wrong?
Thank you for your help, I start to be lost and expect to get high
quality prints with this printer.
--
PGB

--
Igor
http://www.igorshpak.com/hobbies/photo/photo.html

Phil Nicholls · Nov 24, 2002

PGB said:
I'm using a D60, JPEG files, PS6 with color space Adobe RGB 1998,
my screen is calibrated, I'm using Epson Premium semigloss photo
paper and have big troubles in getting the right colors with my
Epson 2100:

The only way to get right colors is to use the set up "Photo
Enhance 4" and that's not normal; if I use "No calibration" my
photos are too dark and too green, if I use "Epson calibration"
they are too pink; the result is not better if on the Printing
Space I select "same as the source" or "Epson 2100" or "Adobe RGB
1998".

I have tried nearly 60 different combinations without success. What
am I doing wrong?
Thank you for your help, I start to be lost and expect to get high
quality prints with this printer.
--
PGB

Hi,

http://www.leppphoto.com/learn/articles/profiles.htm

There are a couple of free Epson 2100/2200 profiles here. They are for the Lustre and Matte papers. As the Lustre is very similar to the Semi-Gloss in make-up I have found the profile to work quite well.

Use No Colour Management in the driver and let Photoshop do the managing with one of the above profiles.

ATB,

Phil
Northumberland

Tricia · Nov 24, 2002

PGB said:
I'm using a D60, JPEG files, PS6 with color space Adobe RGB 1998,
my screen is calibrated, I'm using Epson Premium semigloss photo
paper and have big troubles in getting the right colors with my
Epson 2100:

The only way to get right colors is to use the set up "Photo
Enhance 4" and that's not normal; if I use "No calibration" my
photos are too dark and too green, if I use "Epson calibration"
they are too pink; the result is not better if on the Printing
Space I select "same as the source" or "Epson 2100" or "Adobe RGB
1998".

Try using Printer Color Management.

PGB #125625 said:
I have tried nearly 60 different combinations without success. What
am I doing wrong?
Thank you for your help, I start to be lost and expect to get high
quality prints with this printer.
--
PGB

--
Tricia
Minolta Dimage D7(UG), Epson 2200, PBase supporter

Leon Wittwer · Nov 24, 2002

Try
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=3196512

PGB #125625 · Nov 24, 2002

Hi Phil,

Thank you for your info but the link doen't work. Do you have an other one?

PGB

Phil Nicholls said:
Hi,

http://www.leppphoto.com/learn/articles/profiles.htm

There are a couple of free Epson 2100/2200 profiles here. They are
for the Lustre and Matte papers. As the Lustre is very similar to
the Semi-Gloss in make-up I have found the profile to work quite
well.

Use No Colour Management in the driver and let Photoshop do the
managing with one of the above profiles.

ATB,

Phil
Northumberland

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PGB

R. Bond · Nov 24, 2002

PGB

Try this: copy and past this link in the address bar: http://www.leppphoto.com/learn/articles/profiles.htm

I use these profiles per instructions on the above page and am getting great results. This stuff was recommended by Tricia I think. It works for me.

Hope this helps

RB

R. Bond · Nov 24, 2002

You may have to remove (http: ) to get it to work.

RB

William Patterson · Nov 24, 2002

PGB said:
I'm using a D60, JPEG files, PS6 with color space Adobe RGB 1998,
my screen is calibrated, I'm using Epson Premium semigloss photo
paper and have big troubles in getting the right colors with my
Epson 2100GB

Go to http://www.Epson.com then to the Epson Australia site then search- Epson 2100 then Downloads. On the downloads page there is a pdf document giving very clear very precise step by step directions for RGB printing using ICC profiles (which are available for download on the Australia Epson site) and Photoshop 6.01 for Mac or Windows. Great results. The link for the George Lepp site given earlier has one "p" too many. Try http://www.lepphoto.com/articles/profiles.htm . There are 4 very good profiles available for download here along with detailed directions for their use with Photoshop 7.0 and Epson 2200. I found the Australia Epson site to be the easiest directions to follow. Good luck
Bill

William Patterson · Nov 24, 2002

OLNSLO said:
William Patterson said:

Go to http://www.Epson.com then to the Epson Australia site then search-

Click to expand...

Epson 2100 then Downloads. On the downloads page there is a pdf
document giving very clear very precise step by step directions for
RGB printing using ICC profiles (which are available for download
on the Australia Epson site) and Photoshop 6.01 for Mac or Windows.
Great results. The link for the George Lepp site given earlier has
one "p" too many. Try http://www.lepphoto.com/articles/profiles.htm .
There are 4 very good profiles available for download here along
with detailed directions for their use with Photoshop 7.0 and Epson
2200. I found the Australia Epson site to be the easiest directions
to follow. Good luck
Bill

Try this link http://www.leppphoto.com/learn/articles/profiles.htm TYPE this link into your browser. It does not open from here but should open in your browser. I was wrong about the number of ps - there are three.

PGB #125625 · Nov 24, 2002

Thank you Bill, it works but it's specify for Epson 2200, do you think that the drivers are the same for the 2100?

William Patterson said:
Try this link http://www.leppphoto.com/learn/articles/profiles.htm TYPE
this link into your browser. It does not open from here but should
open in your browser. I was wrong about the number of ps - there
are three.

PGB #125625 · Nov 24, 2002

Thank you it works well, however as it is specify Epson 2200 I don't know if these drivers work for the 2100.

R. Bond said:
You may have to remove (http: ) to get it to work.

RB

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PGB

Phil Nicholls · Nov 24, 2002

PGB said:
R. Bond said:

You may have to remove (http: ) to get it to work.

RB

Click to expand...

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PGB

The 2100/2200 are the same printer. The 2200 designator is used in N. America, 2100 elsewhere.

Go ahead and use the profiles - I see they've now uploaded Semi-Gloss & Glossy profiles, so should work well.

Phil
Northumberland-UK

Phil Nicholls · Nov 24, 2002

PGB said:
PGB #125625 said:

Try this link http://www.leppphoto.com/learn/articles/profiles.htm TYPE
this link into your browser. It does not open from here but should
open in your browser. I was wrong about the number of ps - there
are three.

Click to expand...

PGB,

As my other reply says - the 2100 &2200 are the same. Trust me - I buy my 2100 inks in NY - over there of course they are for the 2200 but they work fine in my 2100 over here!

Good luck.

Phil

Tricia · Nov 24, 2002

PGB said:
PGB #125625 said:

Try this link http://www.leppphoto.com/learn/articles/profiles.htm TYPE
this link into your browser. It does not open from here but should
open in your browser. I was wrong about the number of ps - there
are three.

Click to expand...

They should work fine - I'm using the Epson 2100 driver when I want to print borderless with matte ink (something else Epson NA decided we didn't need) and the only problem I've found is that the Status Monitor doesn't work correctly. Prints are great, though. I use the Epson 2200 driver the rest of the time (better paper choices for what's sold here).

Some people who have used these profiles say that they work best on landscape type photos because they bring out the blues and greens better, while the Epson profiles bring out reds and yellows better so are better for portraits. If you use them, let us know what you think!

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Tricia
Minolta Dimage D7(UG), Epson 2200, PBase supporter

William Patterson · Nov 25, 2002

PGB said:
Thank you Bill, it works but it's specify for Epson 2200, do you
think that the drivers are the same for the 2100?

The ICC profiles work with 2100 or 2200. They are paper specific - each profile is for a different photo paper. "matte, gloss, semigloss etc. http://tech.epson.com.au/downloads/product.asp?id=stylusPhoto2100&platform=all Try this link for Epson Australia downloads for the Epson 2100. There is a pdf file showing step by step how to use 2100 + photoshop 6.01 + profiles. Epson 2100 drivers, profiles and directions for use are available for download on Epson Australia site. Use the ICC poifile for the type of paper that you are printing on- the profiles are paper specific. Follow the step by step instructions available on the Epson Australia site EXACTLY as they are described and you should get great results. ICC profiles are available on your installation cd and the profiles on the George Lepp site work well for me.

Bill

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