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Hi all,

I just bought the Sony DSC-F-717, and it seems to me that every picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
 
Check your serial number against the list that is in the news section of this site where it talks about the Sony announcement. Though I guess I am assuming that you are in the US. Whereever you are from, check Sony in your area for the list of serial #s as they vary from US to Canada to Europe.

Good Luck
Dan
Alex Rodriguez said:
Hi all,

I just bought the Sony DSC-F-717, and it seems to me that every
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Alex Rodriguez said:
Hi all,

I just bought the Sony DSC-F-717, and it seems to me that every
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Alex

Pretty much most digitals need to be retouched but having had the Sony 707 , the photos should not be out of focus much.Are you trying manual focus? The best way to tell if its the camera is taking it back and trying one more .Sony may not like that advice but all you have to do is take a look at other photos here to compare to Alex to know if you have a good camera or not. -hope this helps.-rick
 
Out of focus and soft sharpening are two very different things.
What sharpening setting are you using on the camera? Use +1.
If the camera is really not focusing then no amount of sharpening
in photoshop will make a really sharp image.

To test camera, put it on a tripod about 2-3 meters from a wall. Put a high contrast target image on the wall to focus on. Let Auto focus fix on the image and while holding the shutter half way(focus locked), switch to manual focus it will tell you the distance. Measure the distance yourself with a tape. If the camera is off by more than a few cm then send it back.

( all this info is in the forum here.. and way more detailed)
John Brady
Alex Rodriguez said:
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Also Alex, digital cameras "behave" much differently than film SLR's regarding focus and shutter lag. The 7X7 has a great auto focus system compared to other digitals, but it's still not as fast as most film cameras. I would try using the auto timer or remote in addition to the tripod, before sending the camera back. I am not assuming user error here, but have seen many film converts expect too much in this area.
Cheers.
John Brady said:
Out of focus and soft sharpening are two very different things.
What sharpening setting are you using on the camera? Use +1.
If the camera is really not focusing then no amount of sharpening
in photoshop will make a really sharp image.
To test camera, put it on a tripod about 2-3 meters from a wall.
Put a high contrast target image on the wall to focus on. Let Auto
focus fix on the image and while holding the shutter half way(focus
locked), switch to manual focus it will tell you the distance.
Measure the distance yourself with a tape. If the camera is off
by more than a few cm then send it back.
Click to expand...
John Brady said:
( all this info is in the forum here.. and way more detailed)
John Brady
John Brady said:
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Hi John,

It seems to me that it is out focus for ready-to-print images. I mean not filtering used. I am using 0 sharpening. I will try the test you are suggesting, I'll let you and all know the results. Some how I am disappointed with the result. Still don't get the point about this camera being so nice. In my opinion, those pictures need some work before you post online or print them. I have tried different setting, with almost the same result. Last night I took a series of pictures, one of those series are awful, not retouching will fix them.

Alex
John Brady said:
( all this info is in the forum here.. and way more detailed)
John Brady
John Brady said:
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Hi Shimbabwe,

Probably you are right, I may be expecting too much out of this camera. I checked already the timer, and basically I get the same result. I'll try to take some more pictures, and I hope to figure out how to get ready to print pictures.

Alex
Shimbabwe said:
John Brady said:
Out of focus and soft sharpening are two very different things.
What sharpening setting are you using on the camera? Use +1.
If the camera is really not focusing then no amount of sharpening
in photoshop will make a really sharp image.
To test camera, put it on a tripod about 2-3 meters from a wall.
Put a high contrast target image on the wall to focus on. Let Auto
focus fix on the image and while holding the shutter half way(focus
locked), switch to manual focus it will tell you the distance.
Measure the distance yourself with a tape. If the camera is off
by more than a few cm then send it back.
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Shimbabwe said:
( all this info is in the forum here.. and way more detailed)
John Brady
Shimbabwe said:
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Need MCON-35 and WCON-08B.
Gonna be a CON-man someday.
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How about posting some full size samples straight from the camera.
Alex Rodriguez said:
It seems to me that it is out focus for ready-to-print images. I
mean not filtering used. I am using 0 sharpening. I will try the
test you are suggesting, I'll let you and all know the results.
Some how I am disappointed with the result. Still don't get the
point about this camera being so nice. In my opinion, those
pictures need some work before you post online or print them. I
have tried different setting, with almost the same result. Last
night I took a series of pictures, one of those series are awful,
not retouching will fix them.

Alex
John Brady said:
( all this info is in the forum here.. and way more detailed)
John Brady
Alex Rodriguez said:
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Sony DSC-F717
Canon S200 Ultra-compact
 
John Brady said:
... To test camera, put it on a tripod about 2-3 meters from a wall.
Put a high contrast target image on the wall to focus on. Let Auto
focus fix on the image and while holding the shutter half way(focus
locked), switch to manual focus it will tell you the distance.
Measure the distance yourself with a tape. ...
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Hi John.

I have brought up a couple of times that the autofocus on my 707 is off when using wide angle and HAF using this technique. I haven't received any replies or reports of similar experiences.

Have you found any scenarios where there is a discrepancy with your 717?

This test is so easy to do, you don't even have to take a picture. Just have to observe the distance reading when switching to manual and observing if the readings are consistent.

Wouldn't be nice if the distance reading showed up on the LCD and in the EXIF?

Ken
 
Jay,

I think this is a good idea, so I put one picture online, here is the URL:

http://sixbone.com/dsc-f717/

I will post more pics later in the same URL.

Alex
Jay Jervey said:
Alex Rodriguez said:
It seems to me that it is out focus for ready-to-print images. I
mean not filtering used. I am using 0 sharpening. I will try the
test you are suggesting, I'll let you and all know the results.
Some how I am disappointed with the result. Still don't get the
point about this camera being so nice. In my opinion, those
pictures need some work before you post online or print them. I
have tried different setting, with almost the same result. Last
night I took a series of pictures, one of those series are awful,
not retouching will fix them.

Alex
John Brady said:
( all this info is in the forum here.. and way more detailed)
John Brady
Jay Jervey said:
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Alex Rodriguez said:
I think this is a good idea, so I put one picture online, here is
the URL:
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Just curious: why are you using 640x480 mode? (This should actually result a sharper image, or certainly less noisy, but it seems funny to buy a 5 mp camera and use it in 640x480 mode)

How sturdy is your tripod and how windy was it? I have had trouble with my flimsy tripod and the fairly heaavy 707 when the wind blows and swings the neck strap. At a shutter speed of 2 seconds, this can be a problem.

I also find it strange that your "Exposure Program" is "Undefined." Mine usually says "Manual", "Normal program", "Aperture priority" or "Shutter priority". I don't recall having seen "undefined" on mine before, but then I have a 707.

One other suspicious thing I see is that your f-stop was at 2.0 but the "Max Aperture Value" is 2.1. I'm not sure this is a problem, but it'd be nice to understand why it appears you've been able to open the aperture beyond the max. Unfortunately, the exif data doesn't tell about the focal distance (Earth to Sony, come in Sony!) and I can't tell if you were in manual or autofocus mode, but someone here said he had trouble with manual focus at infinity. With an aperture of f/2, its more sensitive to the focusing mechanism. That's one reason I used f/7.1 in my night shots. See:

http://homepage.mac.com/charlesclloyd/PhotoAlbum42.html

and

http://homepage.mac.com/charlesclloyd/PhotoAlbum46.html

Charles.
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Canon S100 (Since Feb 2001)
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scorch said:
John Brady said:
... To test camera, put it on a tripod about 2-3 meters from a wall.
Put a high contrast target image on the wall to focus on. Let Auto
focus fix on the image and while holding the shutter half way(focus
locked), switch to manual focus it will tell you the distance.
Measure the distance yourself with a tape. ...
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Hi John.

I have brought up a couple of times that the autofocus on my 707 is
off when using wide angle and HAF using this technique. I haven't
received any replies or reports of similar experiences.

Have you found any scenarios where there is a discrepancy with your
717?

This test is so easy to do, you don't even have to take a picture.
Just have to observe the distance reading when switching to manual
and observing if the readings are consistent.

Wouldn't be nice if the distance reading showed up on the LCD and
in the EXIF?

Ken

Ken your trying to substantiate why its out of focus? Trust me , there is no known common fault on either of these two cameras for this kind of shot.I never had a problem with this with holding the camera let alone with a tripod..Something is not right
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rick said:
Ken your trying to substantiate why its out of focus? Trust me , there is no known common fault on either of these two cameras for this kind of shot.I never had a problem with this with holding the camera let alone with a tripod..Something is not right
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Just wondering if other people have inconsistent readings.

When the camera is 2 meters away, with wide angle and HAF, switching to manual focus after locking the focus with the half press, gives me reading of 1.1 meters.

Here's the picts.
http://www.pbase.com/scorch87/f707_haf_tests

Ken
 
Alex,

This is a slow shutter speed image. The camera was not held steady. Besides the issues Charles raised, the camera is/was not being held steady.

Try some handheld shots above 1/30 speed (no zoom). You should get tack sharp images. I'm not saying they won't need PS. But compared to the shot you posted, they won't need much editing. I don't even think the shot you posted is editable. It's always going to be blurry.

Just my opinion,
Steve
Charles C Lloyd said:
Alex Rodriguez said:
I think this is a good idea, so I put one picture online, here is
the URL:
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Just curious: why are you using 640x480 mode? (This should
actually result a sharper image, or certainly less noisy, but it
seems funny to buy a 5 mp camera and use it in 640x480 mode)

How sturdy is your tripod and how windy was it? I have had trouble
with my flimsy tripod and the fairly heaavy 707 when the wind blows
and swings the neck strap. At a shutter speed of 2 seconds, this
can be a problem.

I also find it strange that your "Exposure Program" is "Undefined."
Mine usually says "Manual", "Normal program", "Aperture priority"
or "Shutter priority". I don't recall having seen "undefined" on
mine before, but then I have a 707.

One other suspicious thing I see is that your f-stop was at 2.0 but
the "Max Aperture Value" is 2.1. I'm not sure this is a problem,
but it'd be nice to understand why it appears you've been able to
open the aperture beyond the max. Unfortunately, the exif data
doesn't tell about the focal distance (Earth to Sony, come in
Sony!) and I can't tell if you were in manual or autofocus mode,
but someone here said he had trouble with manual focus at infinity.
With an aperture of f/2, its more sensitive to the focusing
mechanism. That's one reason I used f/7.1 in my night shots. See:

http://homepage.mac.com/charlesclloyd/PhotoAlbum42.html

and

http://homepage.mac.com/charlesclloyd/PhotoAlbum46.html

Charles.
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Sony 707 (Since Oct 14, 2002)
Canon S100 (Since Feb 2001)
http://homepage.mac.com/charlesclloyd
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John,

The camera seems to be ok with distance. It's off by a few cm, I say 2 to 4 cm, I guess that is OK.

Alex
John Brady said:
( all this info is in the forum here.. and way more detailed)
John Brady
John Brady said:
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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If ur pic is really out of focus.. no amount of sharpening will help. You can't really perfectly save a out of focus picture.. if it's just soft cuz of, say, a -1 sharpening setting then yes.. the unsharp mask would help. However, if it is OOF.. adding an unsharpen mask would only make it worse, I mean assuming it focused on the background the background would become even more sharp.

T
Alex Rodriguez said:
Hi all,

I just bought the Sony DSC-F-717, and it seems to me that every
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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T,

I guess the problem is with sharpening. Some pics are really out of focus, most of them they have to go thru the sharpening process, otherwise, they don't look good.

Alex
lck0925 said:
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Alex Rodriguez said:
Hi all,

I just bought the Sony DSC-F-717, and it seems to me that every
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Oh.. so what you mean is if u add sharpening to it then it looks right? That's better than.. cuz if they're really all OOF then u should get ur dc checked. = )

My 717 has problems focusing too.. it's weird.. there are situations when my elph wouldn't but it would.. then it goes the other way around too. I'm ok with it cuz i know it's not perfect. = )

Happy shooting.. i really like my 717.

T
Alex Rodriguez said:
I guess the problem is with sharpening. Some pics are really out
of focus, most of them they have to go thru the sharpening process,
otherwise, they don't look good.

Alex
lck0925 said:
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Alex Rodriguez said:
Hi all,

I just bought the Sony DSC-F-717, and it seems to me that every
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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I disagree with your conclusion that sharpening is the problem. The posted picture of buildings at twilight shoes definite motion blur caused by motion between lower left and upper right directions. If handheld, the exposure was too long; this forum has recommended 1/30 sec or shorter with the lens zoom at 38 mm. An old rule from 35 mm film practice is that shutter speed should be shorter than 1/(focal length in mm). Using the 717's "35 mm equiv" fl's of 38 and 190 mm, the shutter speeds for those exptremes would be shorter than, say, 1/40th and 1/200th sec.

If on a tripod, the tripod was shaking. Wind could cause it, or hand touching the camera. The exposure should be made using the self timer, or a remote control cable to avoid hand shake effects.

Another problem with AF is whether the AF zone is appropriately located with respect to the object. See (scroll down near the bottom of the web page)

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf717/page7.asp

Also, at night, a combination of poor subject contrast and low light could put the AF system's accuracy "at peril"! The HAF won't help with a subject like those buildings!

Just my opinion ;> )
Alex Rodriguez said:
I guess the problem is with sharpening. Some pics are really out
of focus, most of them they have to go thru the sharpening process,
otherwise, they don't look good.

Alex
lck0925 said:
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Alex Rodriguez said:
Hi all,

I just bought the Sony DSC-F-717, and it seems to me that every
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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Russ,

Thank you for your advices. Little by little I am learning more and more about the amazing world of digital photos and cameras. One thing that I just learned from you is how to take a picture without touching the camera: Bingo! Use the timer. Man, this is invaluable information.

I am trying to sort out where the problem is with my 717, is me or the camera itself? This is the second 717, the first one was out of focus, no questions. The sales people took about 6 pictures at the store, and all of them were out of focus. Those guys/gals know how to play around with these toys.

Also, following the link posted by you, I just learned how to disable the magnify feature when using manual focus. I don't like, it's distracting to me.

Alex
Russ Yost said:
If on a tripod, the tripod was shaking. Wind could cause it, or
hand touching the camera. The exposure should be made using the
self timer, or a remote control cable to avoid hand shake effects.

Another problem with AF is whether the AF zone is appropriately
located with respect to the object. See (scroll down near the
bottom of the web page)

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf717/page7.asp

Also, at night, a combination of poor subject contrast and low
light could put the AF system's accuracy "at peril"! The HAF won't
help with a subject like those buildings!

Just my opinion ;> )
Alex Rodriguez said:
I guess the problem is with sharpening. Some pics are really out
of focus, most of them they have to go thru the sharpening process,
otherwise, they don't look good.

Alex
lck0925 said:
T
Alex Rodriguez said:
Hi all,

I just bought the Sony DSC-F-717, and it seems to me that every
picture I take, it has to be retouched!!! They are most of the
time out focus. Yes, I am using a tripod, and not, it is not one
of those with the hologram problem. Are digital photos suppose to
be this way? I mean, they have to go thru a filter first before
you can see a sharp image? I have to use a heavily unmask filter
in Photoshop before I can see a sharp image, if I print the picture
without retouching, it looks awful! For a thousand Dollars, I was
expecting something much better. The first Sony DSC-F717 I got
was taking right back to the store for the same problem, and the
sale-men probe themselves before accepting the camera as being
defective that is was terrible out focus!!!

Alex
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