http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&Q=&sku=750243&is=REG&A=ShowProduct
Unfortunately there still don't seem to be any more details than before.
Unfortunately there still don't seem to be any more details than before.
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Samsung WB700 now in stock
- Thread starter jj74e
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Yes it's pretty silly really. We don't even know if the camera has features like RAW or not (although I doubt it does) and I'd also like to know how many pixels the 3" LCD screen has. This is all very basic info and it's taking forever for the specs to be revealed.
So who is going to be the philanthropic Guinea pig to buy one and test it out for all here?
So who is going to be the philanthropic Guinea pig to buy one and test it out for all here?
if it doesn't have RAW and they haven't significantly revised image processing, then outside of looks, there's no reason to get this cam over the 650. You lose GPS here, which, for some, is fine (I got mine for it because I travel), and the higher zoom is very debatable over 15x. It is nice that they made the narrowing of the aperture a bit more gradual, but again, it's nothing huge to speak of unless they commit to making the lens brighter at wide. Anything else that people are talking about ike they're new, such as sharpness, contrast, and saturation controls, are all features on the 650.
However, I really like the direction with the appearance. Very high end looking.
However, I really like the direction with the appearance. Very high end looking.
Do we know the lens aperture spec on WB700 for wide and telephoto?
I like to see review of WB700 vs WB600 for image quality. Even though spec might be similar other than longer zoom, they might have improved NR and the JPEG image process in firmware or gotten it worse. Given that all the competitors went to CMOS sensors this year, it will be interesting to see how WB700 does against them especially outdoors.
I like to see review of WB700 vs WB600 for image quality. Even though spec might be similar other than longer zoom, they might have improved NR and the JPEG image process in firmware or gotten it worse. Given that all the competitors went to CMOS sensors this year, it will be interesting to see how WB700 does against them especially outdoors.
There is a spec listed for the aperture, but if you look at the camera's image on the link I posted, on the lens it says "3.2-5.8"
Also, I agree, I like the new look. Out of all the compact megazooms, I think I dislike Fuji's the most. Way too complicated looking/too shiny.
Also, I agree, I like the new look. Out of all the compact megazooms, I think I dislike Fuji's the most. Way too complicated looking/too shiny.
Coldamus
Senior Member
The specs are in the manual
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201104/20110405153632757/WB700_WB710_English.pdf
No raw and the screen is 230,000 pixels (QVGA).
The tentative specs that dpr are showing on their camera/lens database are mostly wrong. e.g. it has Aperture priority, Shutter priority and Manual modes whereas dpr says not. Also it is not quite as slim as dpr says. The manual gives dimensions of 105.0 x 58.9 x 24.9 mm.
Yes, I've seen the manual but I don't believe all the specs listed in there.
Personally I can't see that the camera would only have 230k pixels when the previous years WB650 had 920k and this years WB210 has 1152k (cheaper model with a 3.5" LCD screen).
I am still skeptical of some of the specs in the manual so I'd just like to see some further confirmation from other sources. In theory the manual should be correct though so maybe I'm just being hopeful that the specs will actually be better than what's listed.
Personally I can't see that the camera would only have 230k pixels when the previous years WB650 had 920k and this years WB210 has 1152k (cheaper model with a 3.5" LCD screen).
I am still skeptical of some of the specs in the manual so I'd just like to see some further confirmation from other sources. In theory the manual should be correct though so maybe I'm just being hopeful that the specs will actually be better than what's listed.
Coldamus
Senior Member
The WB700 appears to be the successor to the WB600 which only had a 230k LCD screen. The WB650 was the upmarket model of the WB600 with GPS included and an amoled screen (614,400 dots according to dpr).
The WB710 is more likely to be the successor to the WB650 although it is strange that the manual covers both WB710 and WB700, yet only shows one set of specs. I know they intended to drop the GPS but it will be interesting to see whether the WB710 has an amoled screen. Also the press release mentioned raw capability, so it is all very confusing.
Imagine how many cameras they could sell if they got their marketing act together.
The WB710 is more likely to be the successor to the WB650 although it is strange that the manual covers both WB710 and WB700, yet only shows one set of specs. I know they intended to drop the GPS but it will be interesting to see whether the WB710 has an amoled screen. Also the press release mentioned raw capability, so it is all very confusing.
Imagine how many cameras they could sell if they got their marketing act together.
Yes I guess that all makes sense. I was thinking that this camera was an upgrade on the WB650 but it makes sense that it would be a "lower end" model and then a WB750 is to be released later with I assume even higher specs.
I agree... the marketing of this by Samsung has been pretty bad... with conflicting specs and lots of questions left open. I'll wait a while to see what the reviews are on this but without a nice 460k+ screen I have to say it's a bit of a letdown.
Maybe I'm just fussy but I really like the better quality screens when that's the only viewfinder on these lower end cams anymore. Most of the superzoom compact cams in the $250+ range have gone to 460k or even 920k and as I mentioned the lower spec Samsung WB210 has 1152k so it's a disappointment that they'd limit this model to a low res screen.
Panasonic did the same thing though with the new ZS8/TZ18 which also only has a mono microphone instead of stereo... I assume this is a formulated strategy to up sell people into the higher cost ZS10/TZ20.
Is there anyone out there who already got his / her hands this camera? i can't find any information on the Internet.
I’m wondering if the increase of mega-pixels will result in even more image noise? Noise being the main problem with the WB600.
if they've managed to improved the noise this might be the right camera for me. The zoom is very impressive.
I’m wondering if the increase of mega-pixels will result in even more image noise? Noise being the main problem with the WB600.
if they've managed to improved the noise this might be the right camera for me. The zoom is very impressive.
I'm hoping those that get a hold of this one early do us a favour and post a few pics and a review here as well.
The Samsung WB700 and the Olympus SZ-30MR were the two cameras I was most looking forward to seeing reviewed. There's a good chance at least one of them is going to be a very good camera... they certainly both have some good specs going for them.
The Samsung WB700 and the Olympus SZ-30MR were the two cameras I was most looking forward to seeing reviewed. There's a good chance at least one of them is going to be a very good camera... they certainly both have some good specs going for them.
Like you I'm waiting for more credible info regarding these two superzoom compacts too. I'm also looking forward to a new superzoom compact line from Pentax in the very near future. It may be called the Pentax RZ-18 Optio. Still pretty much a rumor though.
http://photorumors.com/2011/03/08/pentax-rz-18-optio-compact-camera-will-have-a-swivel-screen/
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Both Oly and Pentax better get their mess together this time. Their compacts have not been impressive for quite some time by now, except for the XZ-1 which can be good in raw.
Oly can Pentax might be dark horses for a super zoom group-test this year though I believe it is between this samsung, panasonic fuji, and perhaps also canon.
Olympus has made the worst compacts I have ever used, at high prices, to boot. I really hope they get their act together, because Canon leads, by far, Fuji can be hit or miss and in my experience, has produced colors better than Oly, and in the next few years, they're probably going to bring themselves more upscale. Love them or hate them, Panasonic also had a role in moving cams a bit uplevel and using IS. Samsung is close and already producing some really incredible stuff, though not 100% perfect. Oly is nowhere near these levels.
I believe Hoya will move Pentax upscale in the next couple years and possibly move them up in IQ while keeping the line small, manageable, and easy for consumers to understand. I really hope they come up with a high end compact with a swivel. If they can make it work comparably well, like they did with the K5, then we're going to have some good races in the coming years.
I believe Hoya will move Pentax upscale in the next couple years and possibly move them up in IQ while keeping the line small, manageable, and easy for consumers to understand. I really hope they come up with a high end compact with a swivel. If they can make it work comparably well, like they did with the K5, then we're going to have some good races in the coming years.
Mr Tudor
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Yes... there are sites like this that are still reporting that the camera has RAW:
http://www.samsunghub.com/2011/05/02/samsung-releases-wb700-digital-camera-in-south-korea/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+samsunghub+%28Samsung+Hub%29
I just chatted with a B&H rep through their online chat service and he said the camera does NOT have RAW, it has a mono microphone and he didn't know what the LCD display resolution was as they didn't have that info anywhere from Samsung.
From reading the manual (which I was somewhat skeptical about because of some of the conflicting info online...) it looks like there is no RAW format on the camera and it's a 230k screen with stereo microphones.
So I called Samsung Canada on the phone and talked to a rep there and they said the camera was very new (no kidding) so it would take him some time to find the answer but he confirmed that the camera does not have RAW, its has 230k resolution and it has a stereo mic.
So hopefully I have the true info finally. The lesson is I suppose to believe the manual and NOTHING else.
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