Full Frame or APS-C: Who Cares?

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Hi- I am beginning to look for a digital SLR to complement my film SLR. My primary purpose for the digital would not be to replace the film kit, which I plan to use to take photographs with Ilford Panchromatic F (50 ISO) film, a very soft but sharp medium that I have never seen duplicated by a digital camera. Occasionally a roll of Fuji Velvia might creep in as well. As you can see from the films I like, I tend to take photographs of nature and landscapes. (I already use Canon point-and-shoot digitals for snapshots of people.)

The digital kit would be for all those times when I want to take shots with abandon - times when I don't want to worry about the number of frames left or the type of film in the camera. Ideally I would like a camera that is rather light but able to withstand a knock. If that combination isn't available, I will go for semi-heavy and well sealed.

As I have said, though, I want to satisfy myself about the sensor before I go too far with the heavymetal aspect.

As a film photographer who scans slides and photographs, I have a love of big originals. Would a full frame sensor give me an advantage over an APS-C sensor in the same way that an 8x10 gives me control over detail that a 4x6 can't? Would I have the same response from a full frame sensor that I get from a good slide?

Than there are megapixels, which I understand are not all created in the same size, and I understand that difference can be a good thing. I understand that a full frame sensor should have larger pixels than an APS-C sensor listed as having the same number of MP. Also, I understand that a large number of MP will give me a sharper picture than a small number, partly because of what happens when a picture is enlarged and partly because making a sensor is difficult and some sensors are likely to be less effective than others (whereas film that has been refrigerated should give a uniform surface, just not one that can be adapted to conditions).

I gather that I could be better off with a 12.3 MP full frame sensor than a 12.3 APS-C sensor, especially if the camera holding the full frame sensor is the Nikon D 300s. Would I do even better with the Canon EOS 5D MkII, assuming I can acumulate the Monet?

The other cameras - all APS-C - on my list at the moment are the Canon T2i, and the Nikon D 5100. Any comments on any or all of these, as well as my overall question, will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks!
 
Unless you have money to burn on a full frane DSLR than almost any DX from say 10 megapix will do the job. How big do you want to make your prints? In CM or Meters? You can go bilboard size and it will look great from the proper distance
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Any APS-C sensor cam of about ten megapixels will give you good results at 8x10 and beyond. So will the m43 cams, Sony nex, and Samsung NX series. So will the high end compact cams., by the way... No problem.
 
I agree.

Just a note, the Samsung NX are APS-C size sensor, x1.5 like Nikon.

Bernard

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About 6 megapixels is all you need for an 8x10 print at 300 dpi. (8x300)x(10x300).

If you mean by "high end compact cams" things like the S95 with their tiny sensors then these are not suited to that task. Above about f4 these sensors become diffraction limited for 8x10 prints. This is not a problem for a larger sensor.

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In terms of megapixels and 8x10 prints, and DSLR is going to be fine. However, there is more to a full frame camera than just megapixels and print size. A full frame camera will have a bit more dynamic range than a cropped sensor. And then there is how the background is rendered. If you like the how your film looks in terms of bokeh, you will only match that with a full frame camera.
 
Try this...These are all original files strait from the camera with no post processing though a bit of cropping for composition. They are Jpeg fine (you can do better with raw). You will get extremely similar results from the D5100. Download them and have them printed (download the "original" file not the picture you see...right click on "original"). See if that meets your needs. That way you have something in hand to compare vs any ones opinion. I make no apologies for there amateurish nature. :)
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Hi- I am beginning to look for a digital SLR to complement my film SLR. My primary purpose for the digital would not be to replace the film kit, which I plan to use to take photographs with Ilford Panchromatic F (50 ISO) film, a very soft but sharp medium that I have never seen duplicated by a digital camera. Occasionally a roll of Fuji Velvia might creep in as well. As you can see from the films I like, I tend to take photographs of nature and landscapes. (I already use Canon point-and-shoot digitals for snapshots of people.)

The digital kit would be for all those times when I want to take shots with abandon - times when I don't want to worry about the number of frames left or the type of film in the camera. Ideally I would like a camera that is rather light but able to withstand a knock. If that combination isn't available, I will go for semi-heavy and well sealed.

As I have said, though, I want to satisfy myself about the sensor before I go too far with the heavymetal aspect.

As a film photographer who scans slides and photographs, I have a love of big originals. Would a full frame sensor give me an advantage over an APS-C sensor in the same way that an 8x10 gives me control over detail that a 4x6 can't? Would I have the same response from a full frame sensor that I get from a good slide?

Than there are megapixels, which I understand are not all created in the same size, and I understand that difference can be a good thing. I understand that a full frame sensor should have larger pixels than an APS-C sensor listed as having the same number of MP. Also, I understand that a large number of MP will give me a sharper picture than a small number, partly because of what happens when a picture is enlarged and partly because making a sensor is difficult and some sensors are likely to be less effective than others (whereas film that has been refrigerated should give a uniform surface, just not one that can be adapted to conditions).

I gather that I could be better off with a 12.3 MP full frame sensor than a 12.3 APS-C sensor, especially if the camera holding the full frame sensor is the Nikon D 300s. Would I do even better with the Canon EOS 5D MkII, assuming I can acumulate the Monet?

The other cameras - all APS-C - on my list at the moment are the Canon T2i, and the Nikon D 5100. Any comments on any or all of these, as well as my overall question, will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks!
If you're an experienced film photographer you might prefer the full frame models like the Canon 5D but the smaller APS-C sensors actually do fine with landscapes, portraits, etc. It's the lens that's important!
 
It sounds like you still have a film kit. If you're planning on re-using those lenses, bear in mind that the focal lengths will be all "wrong" if you get a crop sensor camera. What used to be wide-angle won't be nearly as wide anymore because of the 1.5x crop factor.

But, depending on what system you have right now, your lenses might not be compatible with a modern dslr anyhow, so that would be worth knowing. But if you have a full set of lenses that you could go on using, that'll help make up the price difference between an APS-C and a full-frame camera.
 

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