Does the Red Dot of Death affect all Olympuss MFT cameras?

sproket1 said:

Maybe it's me the only red dots I've seen are from images shot directly into the sun...something I personally I would never do anyway

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You mean like this one? I shot it last night with my EPL2 + Panny 20 1.7.

http://bhphotoaday.blogspot.com/2011/04/light-in-skywalk-110365.html

Bill

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If the GH2 was the size of the pens, then I'd be on board!

Yes, I'd say landscape and landscape macro/semi/macro/ landscape portraits are my bread and butter of photography.. Which when I read the last page of your gallery that suggests the e-pl2 is not a good landscape camera, I kind of gulped.

Fortunately the store is going to extend the money-back window a few more days for me, so I can do a climb and keep it more open and see what results I get.

Some of mine have green triangles.

GREEN TRIANGLE SCANDAL!!!

Bas

Len_Gee said:

You have an EPL-2 correct?

With the EPL-2, do you ever shoot sunrises or sunsets?

Also on this thread the sun is up on the upper right hand corner and the Red Dot of Death shows up:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1041&thread=38253586

So it's not blown way out of proportion IMHO.

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I've owned my PL2 for about 2 months now. I've joked about the red-dots a few times but in practical usage (I'm up to about 900 shots) I haven't had the dreaded dots effect my photos.

It seems to me that the majority of the posters saying that the dreaded red-dot issue IS an issue don't use a PL2. I only recall one poster that owned a PL2 finding it to be a problem for them. I'd read about it before purchasing the camera and I have no buyer's remorse.

The PL2 is a great camera and unless you are in love with including the blaring sun as a pin-point light source in your photos I wouldn't take this stupid red-dot thing into consideration. It's really a non-issue.

You know I find it strange that PS and other PP tools offer a lens-flare effect for post processing. In a few years they will add DRD (Dreaded Red Dot) as a post processing effect for all those people who were envious of the Red-berries filter available to Olympus PL2 shooters

ThingsAbove said:

You know I find it strange that PS and other PP tools offer a lens-flare effect for post processing. In a few years they will add DRD (Dreaded Red Dot) as a post processing effect for all those people who were envious of the Red-berries filter available to Olympus PL2 shooters

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It's all in the spin:

Tarnish and scratches on item: "antiquing"
Faded old color picture: "antiquing", "vintage", "sepia-tone"
Beat-up leather boots or jacket: "distressed leather"
Beat-up old jeans: "distressed denim"
Heavy old beat up leather suitcase: "vintage" "Safari"
Red dots: "berry filter"

Or, as a old friend used to say whenever you'd notice a defect: "Shhh! Everyone will want one!"

;-)

ThingsAbove said:

It seems to me that the majority of the posters saying that the dreaded red-dot issue IS an issue don't use a PL2. I only recall one poster that owned a PL2 finding it to be a problem for them.

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The posters making the most vocal and frequent complaints -- PhotoMed/DR 2011/El Capitano/SarahMiler -- did not own the E-PL2. They have all been since banned for trolling, probably because they were the same person.

Now every time I see back episodes of TopGear (UK) I see the same red dot effect and I'm pretty sure they didn't use Olympus M4/3 cameras. It's fairly certain they used cameras that were much, much, much more expensive.

Hello and thanks for the input pro and con on the EPL-2.

I did see some older threads that showed images with the EPL-2 Red Dot Grundge so I believe it is true and not a fabrication.

So, I will wait until a new Pen is is available. Or when Panny GH2 body only is offered.

Kindest Regards.

Bob Tullis said:

tedolf said:

an E-pl1....cheap right now. I don't think anyone have ever seen red dots in an E-pl1. I am also suspicious if this is an effect of the Mark II kit lens? Has anyone ever seen red dots on an E-pl2 using the Mark I lens, or any other lens for that matter?

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Addiing to Alexsfo's input, I've reproduced it with all my lenses (including various legacy).

Since the sensor hasn't changed since the E-P1, the thickness or strength of the filters covering the sensor may have been modified. Or, the coatings on them have been modified. I'm not sure if the microlenses can be modified without creating a new sensor. But something is different that allows strong reflections from the microlenses or photosite wells in this particular model, that uses that same sensor.

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Strange isn't it. Same sensor, same JPEG engine, same lenses (mostly).

Strange.

TEdolph

tedolf said:

Strange isn't it. Same sensor, same JPEG engine, same lenses (mostly).

Strange.

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Indeed, Watson [g]

For some reason I can't quantify, something having to do with the AA filter coating change between the 5D and 5D2 (usual wet cleaning products could ablate the coating of the 5D2 AA filter), I gravitate towards thinking the filter coatings have been altered. Part to improve something for the new chipset to resolve better, this is an unanticipated (or calculated risk taken for the demographic in mind) side effect.

[shrug] It makes some sort of sense in my universe.

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Flipping through the channels I saw another movie with a sunset scene and red dots. It's amazing how often you see this if looking.

Thanks for bringing this up! I have tried to a few times but never gotten any replies. Sometimes it's much, much "worse" than anything I have seen from an E-PL2, so I think that they use it as a creative effect or something.

Everdog said:

Flipping through the channels I saw another movie with a sunset scene and red dots. It's amazing how often you see this if looking.

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