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IMHO there are too many folks out there saying this way or that is the right way. As far as I'm concerned anyway that gives you a satisfactory result is the right way.

I almost always use -2,0,+2. And get results that satisfy me. (I would take 5 or 9 shots if my camera would let me). However given that 90% of my work is with handheld brackets of 3 then that's what I work with. Single shot HDR's are also ok when that's all you have or can get.

I often wonder if those working with black and white get the same hassles that those who work with HDR get. After all there are many many ways to get a 'mono chrome' result. So why can't there be just as many ways to get 'HDR" results? (OK we also need a common definition of HDR).

Read some of Michael Freeman's books and see what he has to say about HDR. If someone of his reputation also supports the 'many' ways to the end result theory then who are we to say what is right or wrong?

I'm all for constructive comments but I get tired of some threads where some folks think their way is the only way.

The OP is getting excellent reviews for excellent work. I only hope his work helps to break down this negativity to HDR.
 
Amazing captures of classic interiors and exteriors of republican Lima. I have never been very good at HDR, probably will give it another go with my recent acquisition, 1Ds MKII and use 24-105 L lens. Lucky you got blueish skies in downtown Lima, thats is so rare....

What camera are you using myshkin, and where are you heading for in the Andes, Huancaya, Lunahuaná?
I have no plans but to stay home booo....

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jorge elguera
http://www.pbase.com/jorginho
Lima - Peru.
 
Thanks, The blue sky days in Lima are about to end

I use a nikon D300s and mostly the sigma 10-20 lens. Your 1d definitely shouldn't limit you with HDR.

We want to head to huancaya. I am a little concerned because I cannot find much info on the area. Also we have a ford escape(small SUV) without 4WD. It is higher then cars but no 4WD. I have read the road is real bad, but sometimes I think Peruvians overreact to road conditions

Have you been to this area?

I noticed you been to boyaz falls near la merced. I love those falls and area
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I work in av venezuela and no blue skies today, kind of sunny though.

I have never been to huancaya, but a friend of mine went there with his Nissan Sentra and had no trouble, since the roads are not paved but not muddy either. You will have no trouble with tall SUV,even without 4wd.

The pictures he took were amazing!!! The rivers, falls and lagoons have a beautiful aqua blue color rarely seen in Peru.

I also love La Merced area (and the whole central amazon forest) having driven up to Satipo in my own car, about two hours after La Merced. Very nice falls there too and incredible walks trhough the rainforest.

You will have a great time taking pics of the landscapes and enjoying the food (trout, pachamancas, etc)!!! Please share the pics.

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jorge elguera
http://www.pbase.com/jorginho
Lima - Peru.
 
Sorry but i dunno which route. Guess that all the way to Lunahuana, then straight ahead...

Satipo area is nicer than La Merced, its also hotter... but never had the chance to drive frm from Saitpo to Huanca, only to Tarma and then to Ticlio at the very top of the Andes in Lima. Have a good trip.

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jorge elguera
http://www.pbase.com/jorginho
Lima - Peru.
 
I printed out your work flow for later experimentation. As much as I admire your enhancer technique, I would like to learn the fusion work flow better for my indoor residential shots. Your example above using the fusion method is very good. Can you detail your work flow using that method? I know it's not your favorite and that you may not be as accomplished with it, but your sample looks very good to me!
Thanks,
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Alastair

http://www.pbase.com/alastair
'Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.'
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brucet said:
I almost always use -2,0,+2. And get results that satisfy me. (I would take 5 or 9 shots if my camera would let me). However given that 90% of my work is with handheld brackets of 3 then that's what I work with. Single shot HDR's are also ok when that's all you have or can get.
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Try this...Use a tripod. Set your exposures as you said, to -2, 0, +2. Take your bracketed shots. Carefully rotate your exposure compensation 1 stop to the right or left and take 3 more shots. You'll get a duplicate image, but you'll also get 2 exposures in the -1 & +1 area, effectively getting a 5-shot bracket. You can always throw out the ones that are not useful before you run the HDR software, but you'll have more shots to choose from.
(My thanks to Russ for this tip)

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Alastair

http://www.pbase.com/alastair
'Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.'
...Bob Seger
 
He is probably busy planning his next photo trip. Not everyone stays glued to their PC so as to respond to each and every post. Just give him some time and he likely will respond, even though he has no obligation to do so.

Regards...Allen
 
Sure man.....actually I wasn't really too worried about it all nor was it meant to be taken up too seriously. It was more a tongue in cheek kinda post :)(:
Allen Gerdes said:
He is probably busy planning his next photo trip. Not everyone stays glued to their PC so as to respond to each and every post. Just give him some time and he likely will respond, even though he has no obligation to do so.

Regards...Allen
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myshkin said:
This is strictly opinion as I really don't know the true facts but have come to conclusions from experience.

2 shots would rarely get me the results I want. None of the shots in this thread are really pushing the sensor that far. Like #1 is farther then the sensor but just barely. Most the time the HDR I do is quite a bit beyond the cameras limits and 2 shots for the high and lows would leave a large gap between in lost data. For me I do 1ev difference because I think the popular 2ev difference leaves lost detail.

Take a shot at -2 and then one at +2 and compare them. You will likely have in the middle areas of the DR either dark loss of detail in your -2 and washed out overexposed detail in the +2. I don't think it could give proper detail on these areas when merged. For me it would be the stuff in the middle that gets hurt. The highlights might look good and the shadows but what about all the stuff inbetween

Hope it makes sense
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i though u were using 7 shots no?
 
I could not open these files in Photoshop CS3 extended with ACR plugin, I have opened my D90 NEF files before. Anyone else have this problem.

"Could not complete your request because it is not the right kind of document."
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Apologies if my lack of photographic knowledge is catching.
 


Myskin, thanks for letting us play with your source files. I went for getting as much detail as possible out of the source images. I probably need to tone down the saturation a bit.
Regards, MM
 
Fusion is a good way to process hdr images. I actually have been messing with it more since I posted that pic. It overall has the more natural feel.
I use the same brackets I would for tonemapping.
I use H&S - adjust to do the processing. I think it gives me the most control

I can't really help with workflow, I still just go in and mess with the sliders till it looks good. I change them a lot for every pic. I need to get better with it
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