"Dream" system: what would *you* buy?

I would't say that..

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/07_jul/features/cw_macvspc2.htm

Even thou, I'd rather work with a Linux based system.. Too bad Photoshop 7.0 doesn't work with it.. (only 5.5 I think)
Power Mac dual 800mHz - 1.25GHz processor tower with 1+ GB RAM.

Get a Mac. I mean it - there's a reason the graphics and
publishing industries are dominated by Macs. Among other things,
Photoshop on a Mac is optimized to take advantage of the extra
instructions on the processor as well as the dual processors and
will scream on this machine (wish I could afford it).
--
Carl Rytterfalk
http://www.pbase.com/rytterfalk
Today Epson 850z - tomorrow Foveon!
 
forget all the whiz bang hi-tech stuff -- if you knew what it was you wouldn't be asking the question. and if you don't know what it is, how are you ever going to get it, get it set up, and maintain it?

if you have or can find an expert to assemble the machine for you (there are reputable companies available via web searches for custom, high-end graphics machines) use them for this question.

but i think a consumer level 'dream' machine is what you're interested in. you can piece that together from the responses you've gotten but here are some highlights:

dual monitors are a must. do you have lots of real-estate? if not go with LCD. you said money is no object so get the high end (10k+) LCDs whose quality will match high end CRTS costs $1500. if money is an object, follow the previous suggestion of 19" LCD and 21" CRT (except I would look for a widescreen LCD such as Image Systems FP2400MAX). it is easiest to drive these from 2 video cards but you don't have to.

2Gb RAM - why go any lower?

A RAID drive array would be great if you have someone to configure it.

An extra 120Gb HDD for temp storage -- high end graphics programs run much better if you put their working space on a dedicated drive. work with your technician to determine by your expected usage whether the temp drive is the RAID array or the extra drive. personally, i have 3 HDD - one 40Gb primary - file system, 120Gb main storage (i didn't go with RAID), and a 120Gb for first level backups (it sure beats CD)

fast CD-RW for primary use. want at least 40x speeds

DVD-R for long term backup. whatever combination you choose between CD/DVD, dual drives are useful.

latest high end ATI or nVidia video card - i prefer ATI Radeon 5700.

High End printer of choice such as Epson 2200

Optical, IR mouse (precision, real estate)

IR keyboard (real estate)

Monsoon Audio planar speakers (real estate)

if you have more than one computer WiFi at home is great -- go for the latest (80211.a) technology to get the fastest speeds transferring large files.

Windows XPMediaCenter, a monitor with a TV tuner, and/or a Pinnacle PCTV card with remote give you TiVo style TV viewing/recording/playback on your PC. with two monitors, its great to have the little window playing off to the side while you work. you can also hook this up to your primary TV (assuming its reasonably nearby so both remotes work) for playback.

software: Photoshop, QImage, Imatch.

all this stuff you can order easily and have any knowledgeable 15 year old assemble for you (except the raid). if you don't have access to someone with sufficient expertise to do the assembly, generic versions of most of this can be ordered with your new PC from the manufacturer and then adding a monitor and video/TV card is straightforward...dav
 
hmm well id probably get a double xeon system with everything from the earth to the moon in perhiperals.

id actually go for a huge lcd (that is if i wouldnt have to pay for the package), because tehy are better for your eyes and theyve coem a long way in correcting the color problems on the more expensive models, and ofcourse i could have another CRT hooked into my double view graphics card...
 
sorry that comment should have gone to PB not you, on raid i agree that its better for stoarage and speed , but i prefer a 1+0 for backup redundency and speed
 
sorry that comment should have gone to PB not you, on raid i agree
that its better for stoarage and speed , but i prefer a 1+0 for
backup redundency and speed
your right, backup is a must and redundency, when budget permit, is a realy good way to bonify your backup process.

--
Gaetan J.
'when you assume something you make an ass out of u and me' B.Hill
 
For High End 3D rendering you don't use 1 High Power PC...

you rather have a networ Lizenez and a Cluster that is much chepaer than one System...

A Celeron Cluster for the same price as your High End machine would outperform your system easily when rendering Cinema4d, Lightwave or 3DsMax.
Thats the way it is done in the big studios...

Only there is no Networking with Photoshop beond Dual Prozessors...

Hey...what about a Blade Server :)))
 
Larry

the reason i use AMD is simple and complex

the simple reason is that the price is lower per speed rating and that if i want to i can overclock them (i dont only in certain situations, for testing but thats it) but with intels you can because intel has now locked out any meaningful plus intel is real propritory especially with the use of overpriced and hyped rdram. plus if you buy a systems from any major computer maker they run on whats called a cool set which means that on both the chip and chipset have been locked down for speed and cant be reset.

now for the complex

AMD chips are different from most other cpu's out there and that they do more instructions per clock cycle then intel and has been doing this for years. its basically the same thing as hyperthreading which intel is clain is brand new tech. which is total BS, AMD has been doing this since the palimino chip came out(and i cant wait till the hammer comes out then i really can drop the hammer in the speed and efficancy department). plus i find that AMD are built better and last longer then Intel because AMD QC is alot better, while intel just cranks them out and hopes that the bad ones dont come back.

if you have anymore question feel free to ask

on price it hard to really say "typical" for you might not be the same as for me, but i can make a computer with all of the hardware for in the 500 range, but it depends on the current price of compents at the time (the biggest price factors in the system are the cpu,chipset, video card, and cd or dvd drives)

for my personal system i would have to go back and look because i upgrade ceratain componenets on a scheduled basis (ie new cpu's about 18months - 2 yrs, video cards about same time, but hard drive get changed out about every 9mths to a year because i fill them up that fast with the number of picts i take and the amount of web work i do. but to recreate the system heres a short list

Case ~$150 with 430 W PS

cpu (dual proc) cant find a place that has 2200 instock its going to be 2 2k MP chips 240 each so $480 total
MB - tyan dual proc $350
HDD 2x80GB (140 each) $280 2x 120GB (180 each) $360

Video- PNY Verto Ti 4600 $260 ( i have already place a order with northwood for the NV 30 GeForce FX for when it comes out )

Audio:Sound Blaster Audigy MP3+ $115
1394 & USB 2.0 PCI combo by adaptec $86
raid 1+0 controller by adaptec $60
NIC combo 100
misc parts and fans $50

total from this list~ $ 2300

this is just using computers4sure website,but for prices i can do a heck of alot better, but i havnet gone looking and asking my contacts lately, i didnt buy all of the components at once it was over the course of a year. and i did upgrade various components over time. this system has been bench marked with several high end systems including a alienware and can hold its ground . but then this alos doesnt include the OS and various software but i alreaddy have it or can get them at a reasonable price
fist off a couple of comments
Processors (AMD only) it depends on weather its a single or dual
proc system. for single processors currently is XP2400+ (but when
2800+ become availalble i will move to them) for dual proc systems
i use the 2200+ MP

Dan -- Why do you use only AMD processors? Cost or performance, or
something else" Also, what is the cost of a "typical" sysstem you
build for your friends and what is the cost of "your" system.
thanks, Larry Rood
 
i know for those movie rendering programs cluster and farms are needed but i dont do that(if i remeber hearing right ILM has 3 or 4 render farms with like 50 boxes in each)

i would use xeons before i would use celrons just to limited with celrons
For High End 3D rendering you don't use 1 High Power PC...
you rather have a networ Lizenez and a Cluster that is much chepaer
than one System...
A Celeron Cluster for the same price as your High End machine would
outperform your system easily when rendering Cinema4d, Lightwave or
3DsMax.
Thats the way it is done in the big studios...

Only there is no Networking with Photoshop beond Dual Prozessors...

Hey...what about a Blade Server :)))
 

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