MichaelT has been banned!!!

Bill too said:

I couldn't find the above page from where your link went although
that seems mighty strange. Finally Googled it.

Nill Toulme said:

That is indeed very bad and sad news. But Michael continues to
provide his exemplary support for both YarcPlus and AC on his
public forums at

http://www.pictureflow.com/forum/index.php

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Juli Valley said:

A few times people have been banned over on the Oly forum. When
several well respected people appealed to Phil and the "offender"
apologized, they were let back on. One time Phill really got
irritated at the sort of comments that are being made today. Some
key people need to chill out and send private messages to Phil and
get Michael to promise to not advertise anymore.

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DavidP #28649 said:

It's my opinion that END USERS like us who also have
commercial software, etc. for sale (eg, Fred Miranda, MichaelT)
should be encourage to purchase some rights to advertise within the
context of the forum for a modest fee.

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Kiran P said:

This all seems very odd since Mike Chaney posts very frequently
here as well. You can always get help and info in the Printing
forum for his two products. Heck, I even bought Profile Prism
because of all the wonderful stuff I read about it here.

John Mills from that ink place posts as well. I think that maybe
before jumping to conclusions we should wait to see what the real
reason is. I remember this happened in the past and it turned out
to be a software glitch that accidentally banned a poster and once
Phil fould out, all was straightened out. This post is only 1 hour
old so I'm sure that once Phil see's it, he'll fix it or offer an
explanation.

What I really wonder is why the heck did the Nikon Coolpix 4500 get
news on dropping $50 in price? How the heck is that news? Cameras
drop all the time in their MSRP price and I've never seen a posting
of this. I think its bad to start doing this unless he plans to
keep up with every single camera price drop. I guess that at least
the Nikon guys now don't feel like Phil is showing favoratism
towards Canon... cause Nikon got it this time!!! When are we gonna
see a $1000 price drop on the D60???? he he

Kiran

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Kiran P said:

Kiran P said:

It's my opinion that END USERS like us who also have
commercial software, etc. for sale (eg, Fred Miranda, MichaelT)
should be encourage to purchase some rights to advertise within the
context of the forum for a modest fee.

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Phil does always say how the forums don't make any money but
account for 70% or so of the bandwidth. If some people wanted to
advertise in their respective forums, this could be a match made in
heaven!

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Greg M said:

That's a pile of bul*. The traffic in the forums is what makes the
money for him. Does anyone really think that if these forums
didn't exsist that he would make the same amount of money? NO WAY!
Advertisers pay for traffic, not content. If he couldn't show
traffic then advertisers wouldn't pay very much.

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Kiran P said:

This all seems very odd since Mike Chaney posts very frequently
here as well. You can always get help and info in the Printing
forum for his two products. Heck, I even bought Profile Prism
because of all the wonderful stuff I read about it here.

John Mills from that ink place posts as well. I think that maybe
before jumping to conclusions we should wait to see what the real
reason is. I remember this happened in the past and it turned out
to be a software glitch that accidentally banned a poster and once
Phil fould out, all was straightened out. This post is only 1 hour
old so I'm sure that once Phil see's it, he'll fix it or offer an
explanation.

What I really wonder is why the heck did the Nikon Coolpix 4500 get
news on dropping $50 in price? How the heck is that news? Cameras
drop all the time in their MSRP price and I've never seen a posting
of this. I think its bad to start doing this unless he plans to
keep up with every single camera price drop. I guess that at least
the Nikon guys now don't feel like Phil is showing favoratism
towards Canon... cause Nikon got it this time!!! When are we gonna
see a $1000 price drop on the D60???? he he

Kiran

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JC said:

Yes, Michael Tapes has been banned from posting in all forums on
DPReview.

I was one of the alpha testers for Archive Creator and, like so
many of you, believe this is an extremely useful and valuable
product. I recently spoke with Michael and he informed me that
when he attempted to post in one of the Archive Creator threads, he
was unceremoniously informed that he was banned for “abuse” of the
site. No email from Phil beforehand, no notice whatsoever, no
regard for all that he has contributed in discussions about Archive
Creator and, of course, YarcPlus. Since Michael received no other
information regarding the ban, it is not possible to know for sure
why he was banned. Presumably, Phil banned Michael for violating
the rule against advertising.

The irony of the situation is that Michael has emailed Phil several
times within the past few days in an attempt to purchase
advertising for Archive Creator on DPReview! Phil, however, failed
to respond to any of Michael’s emails. Michael emailed Phil again
after being banned and still no response.

So where does this leave the Canon SLR forum (and other forums as
well)? Questions and comments about Archive Creator continue to
come in, but the person best qualified to answer those questions
cannot respond. Questions about YarcPlus also will continue to be
posted but, again, Michael will not be able to provide the level of
service and support that he has in the past. To those who would
say that users of the software can still email him, you should
realize that there is a benefit in users posting questions and
getting replies so that all users may benefit, even if they did not
have that specific issue. Moreover, individuals who have not
purchased the software also get to see the strengths and even
weaknesses (such as lack of Mac support) of the software.

That’s the practical argument. Another argument is that the ban is
STUPID! I know it’s Phil’s site and he can do with it what he
pleases. But whom is he helping by banning Michael? And how can
Phil, in good conscience, ban Michael for advertising when Phil has
refused to answer Michael’s emails asking to pay for advertising?
Someone mentioned a double standard exists. But given Michael’s
attempt to purchase advertising, it seems as if there is just an
arbitrary standard. Phil’s apparent hubris helps no one, not even
Phil.

I could on, but I guess you all get the message. A valuable
contributor to the forum has been banned for providing information
about a new product, despite his attempts to purchase advertising
for that product. Now let’s see if I get banned as well, even
without violating any of the rules.

JC

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Peter Sills said:

Again, this is my own reading of what Phil is trying to do, as I
have "stepped over the line" once before and was contact by Phil
and asked, very politely, not to do it again. I think I understand
his concerns and support them, and try to live by them.

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Fred Bopp said:

JC said:

Yes, Michael Tapes has been banned from posting in all forums on
DPReview.

I was one of the alpha testers for Archive Creator and, like so
many of you, believe this is an extremely useful and valuable
product. I recently spoke with Michael and he informed me that
when he attempted to post in one of the Archive Creator threads, he
was unceremoniously informed that he was banned for “abuse” of the
site. No email from Phil beforehand, no notice whatsoever, no
regard for all that he has contributed in discussions about Archive
Creator and, of course, YarcPlus. Since Michael received no other
information regarding the ban, it is not possible to know for sure
why he was banned. Presumably, Phil banned Michael for violating
the rule against advertising.

The irony of the situation is that Michael has emailed Phil several
times within the past few days in an attempt to purchase
advertising for Archive Creator on DPReview! Phil, however, failed
to respond to any of Michael’s emails. Michael emailed Phil again
after being banned and still no response.

So where does this leave the Canon SLR forum (and other forums as
well)? Questions and comments about Archive Creator continue to
come in, but the person best qualified to answer those questions
cannot respond. Questions about YarcPlus also will continue to be
posted but, again, Michael will not be able to provide the level of
service and support that he has in the past. To those who would
say that users of the software can still email him, you should
realize that there is a benefit in users posting questions and
getting replies so that all users may benefit, even if they did not
have that specific issue. Moreover, individuals who have not
purchased the software also get to see the strengths and even
weaknesses (such as lack of Mac support) of the software.

That’s the practical argument. Another argument is that the ban is
STUPID! I know it’s Phil’s site and he can do with it what he
pleases. But whom is he helping by banning Michael? And how can
Phil, in good conscience, ban Michael for advertising when Phil has
refused to answer Michael’s emails asking to pay for advertising?
Someone mentioned a double standard exists. But given Michael’s
attempt to purchase advertising, it seems as if there is just an
arbitrary standard. Phil’s apparent hubris helps no one, not even
Phil.

I could on, but I guess you all get the message. A valuable
contributor to the forum has been banned for providing information
about a new product, despite his attempts to purchase advertising
for that product. Now let’s see if I get banned as well, even
without violating any of the rules.

JC

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Kiran P said:

Kiran

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=2649330

Kiran P said:

That's a pile of bul*. The traffic in the forums is what makes the
money for him. Does anyone really think that if these forums
didn't exsist that he would make the same amount of money? NO WAY!
Advertisers pay for traffic, not content. If he couldn't show
traffic then advertisers wouldn't pay very much.

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Greg M said:

To say that the forums produce no income is a short sighted
statement, but it served his purpose when he said it.

Let me ask you this. If the forums don't promote his business and
all they do is drain resources then why have them? It's because
they indirectly boost his bottom line.

Kiran P said:

Kiran

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=2649330

Greg M said:

That's a pile of bul*. The traffic in the forums is what makes the
money for him. Does anyone really think that if these forums
didn't exsist that he would make the same amount of money? NO WAY!
Advertisers pay for traffic, not content. If he couldn't show
traffic then advertisers wouldn't pay very much.

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JC said:

Yes, Michael Tapes has been banned from posting in all forums on
DPReview.

I was one of the alpha testers for Archive Creator and, like so
many of you, believe this is an extremely useful and valuable
product. I recently spoke with Michael and he informed me that
when he attempted to post in one of the Archive Creator threads, he
was unceremoniously informed that he was banned for “abuse” of the
site. No email from Phil beforehand, no notice whatsoever, no
regard for all that he has contributed in discussions about Archive
Creator and, of course, YarcPlus. Since Michael received no other
information regarding the ban, it is not possible to know for sure
why he was banned. Presumably, Phil banned Michael for violating
the rule against advertising.

The irony of the situation is that Michael has emailed Phil several
times within the past few days in an attempt to purchase
advertising for Archive Creator on DPReview! Phil, however, failed
to respond to any of Michael’s emails. Michael emailed Phil again
after being banned and still no response.

So where does this leave the Canon SLR forum (and other forums as
well)? Questions and comments about Archive Creator continue to
come in, but the person best qualified to answer those questions
cannot respond. Questions about YarcPlus also will continue to be
posted but, again, Michael will not be able to provide the level of
service and support that he has in the past. To those who would
say that users of the software can still email him, you should
realize that there is a benefit in users posting questions and
getting replies so that all users may benefit, even if they did not
have that specific issue. Moreover, individuals who have not
purchased the software also get to see the strengths and even
weaknesses (such as lack of Mac support) of the software.

That’s the practical argument. Another argument is that the ban is
STUPID! I know it’s Phil’s site and he can do with it what he
pleases. But whom is he helping by banning Michael? And how can
Phil, in good conscience, ban Michael for advertising when Phil has
refused to answer Michael’s emails asking to pay for advertising?
Someone mentioned a double standard exists. But given Michael’s
attempt to purchase advertising, it seems as if there is just an
arbitrary standard. Phil’s apparent hubris helps no one, not even
Phil.

I could on, but I guess you all get the message. A valuable
contributor to the forum has been banned for providing information
about a new product, despite his attempts to purchase advertising
for that product. Now let’s see if I get banned as well, even
without violating any of the rules.

JC

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JC said:

Yes, Michael Tapes has been banned from posting in all forums on
DPReview.

I was one of the alpha testers for Archive Creator and, like so
many of you, believe this is an extremely useful and valuable
product. I recently spoke with Michael and he informed me that
when he attempted to post in one of the Archive Creator threads, he
was unceremoniously informed that he was banned for “abuse” of the
site. No email from Phil beforehand, no notice whatsoever, no
regard for all that he has contributed in discussions about Archive
Creator and, of course, YarcPlus. Since Michael received no other
information regarding the ban, it is not possible to know for sure
why he was banned. Presumably, Phil banned Michael for violating
the rule against advertising.

The irony of the situation is that Michael has emailed Phil several
times within the past few days in an attempt to purchase
advertising for Archive Creator on DPReview! Phil, however, failed
to respond to any of Michael’s emails. Michael emailed Phil again
after being banned and still no response.

So where does this leave the Canon SLR forum (and other forums as
well)? Questions and comments about Archive Creator continue to
come in, but the person best qualified to answer those questions
cannot respond. Questions about YarcPlus also will continue to be
posted but, again, Michael will not be able to provide the level of
service and support that he has in the past. To those who would
say that users of the software can still email him, you should
realize that there is a benefit in users posting questions and
getting replies so that all users may benefit, even if they did not
have that specific issue. Moreover, individuals who have not
purchased the software also get to see the strengths and even
weaknesses (such as lack of Mac support) of the software.

That’s the practical argument. Another argument is that the ban is
STUPID! I know it’s Phil’s site and he can do with it what he
pleases. But whom is he helping by banning Michael? And how can
Phil, in good conscience, ban Michael for advertising when Phil has
refused to answer Michael’s emails asking to pay for advertising?
Someone mentioned a double standard exists. But given Michael’s
attempt to purchase advertising, it seems as if there is just an
arbitrary standard. Phil’s apparent hubris helps no one, not even
Phil.

I could on, but I guess you all get the message. A valuable
contributor to the forum has been banned for providing information
about a new product, despite his attempts to purchase advertising
for that product. Now let’s see if I get banned as well, even
without violating any of the rules.

JC

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Greg M said:

Let me ask you this. If the forums don't promote his business and
all they do is drain resources then why have them? It's because
they indirectly boost his bottom line.

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