Help with first DSLR - Sony A55 or the big brands Nikon or Canon

Although not a fan of this camera, (It wouldn't meet my needs) I recomended it to the OP as being more than able to meet his needs. Yesterday I checked the price, and it's NOT cheap. For that kind of money the OP would be better off with either the Canon or the Nikon.
"That kind of money" doesn't buy the OP the 60D or D7000 as they are respectively 33% and 60% more expensive.
They are, checking one store, $899, $999 and $1199 respectively. The Canon is in the ballpark. I thought the Sony was a 500 hundred dollar camera, in which case the savings would be more signifigant. For that matter, Sony makes much better machines, but they too are in line with the more expensive Nikon.

Oh, gosh, I forgot who I'm talking to. Forget I said anything... :(

Dave
 
Should be, based on standard U.S. pricing, $799 body only for the A55, and $849 with kit lens. The A33 usually floats around $749. Sales may drop each further. They've never been $500 cameras...closeout DSLRs like the A500/550 can get close to that. The A560 is cheaper than the A33/55 usually.

Not that I'm going to get into the above argument. I don't have an A33/55, nor do I have anything against either, so call me Switzerland and I'm backing away now.

;)

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Should be, based on standard U.S. pricing, $799 body only for the A55, and $849 with kit lens. The A33 usually floats around $749. Sales may drop each further. They've never been $500 cameras...closeout DSLRs like the A500/550 can get close to that. The A560 is cheaper than the A33/55 usually.

Not that I'm going to get into the above argument. I don't have an A33/55, nor do I have anything against either, so call me Switzerland and I'm backing away now.

;)
You're toast!

I just hit the toast button on my machine, and your machine should go up in a puff of smoke in about six minutes!!!! :D

Dave
 
Although not a fan of this camera, (It wouldn't meet my needs) I recomended it to the OP as being more than able to meet his needs. Yesterday I checked the price, and it's NOT cheap. For that kind of money the OP would be better off with either the Canon or the Nikon.
"That kind of money" doesn't buy the OP the 60D or D7000 as they are respectively 33% and 60% more expensive.
They are, checking one store, $899, $999 and $1199 respectively.
Which store sells the A55 for $899? Sounds like a rip off since it can be had for about $150 less at B&H, Amazon and Sonystyle. The above price is actually higher than the MSRP.
 
Although not a fan of this camera, (It wouldn't meet my needs) I recomended it to the OP as being more than able to meet his needs. Yesterday I checked the price, and it's NOT cheap. For that kind of money the OP would be better off with either the Canon or the Nikon.
"That kind of money" doesn't buy the OP the 60D or D7000 as they are respectively 33% and 60% more expensive.
They are, checking one store, $899, $999 and $1199 respectively.
Which store sells the A55 for $899? Sounds like a rip off since it can be had for about $150 less at B&H, Amazon and Sonystyle. The above price is actually higher than the MSRP.
The actual price is $750. I was looking at one with a kit lens. Still to close to the Canon for me to maintain my recomendation that the OP buy one. But yes, it's a lot cheaper than the Nikon or better Sony cameras.

Dave
 
Plan to spend a few hours, Go to a store and try them out. any decent camera store should carry all three brands, maybe more.

feel how they are in your hands. does the button layout feel right? how does the grip feel? test out how they shoot. how they sound (yeah, really! Some people prefer how certain cameras sound)

the camera store should be able to provide a lens, battery, and memory card to test with. go with the same focus-length lens for all the brands. (usual kit is 18-55-ish)

snap a bunch of pictures. go through the menus. Do you need 10 fps? will 6 suffice?
video much? check out the video on the screen.

Really, the best thing to do is "test-drive" them in real life...
 
Hi,

My partner and I are considering our first DSLR purchase .. we are moving on from a Panasonic Lumix Point and Shoot which is a few years old.

After doing my homework on the internet and reading countless reviews and trying to understand specs I have narrowed down my choice to Sony A55, Nikon D7000 and Canon 60D.

Our photography needs are simple and mostly for holidays, travel, the occasional party at home or work and occasions like new years and that in the city.

My partner is thinking of taking a few classes for an intro of DSLRs and photography coz she has recently taken interest into photography.

I am fixated on the A55 and think it has a host of features like quicker autofocus, 10fps, panorama, GPS. My partner thinks that it has to be the Nikon on Canon if we want to go for an SLR.

Can anyone help us out with what we might be loosing if we opt for the sony .. or is it really worth paying the big bucks for the nikon or canon?

And also any comments and suggestions on purchasing online vs brick n motor stores.. as the price difference seems to be substantial.. ?
One thing no-one here has mentioned, fixated as they are on the 'fanboy phenomenon' : the Sony is actually a logical extension of where Minolta might be today, as Sony took over Minolta's camera division. So rather than regarding them as 'Johnny come lately', you can equally argue that Sony are part of the old "Big 5" of Nikon, Canon, Olympus, Minolta, and Pentax. The cameras probably benefit from Sony's electronics expertise, but the optics are doubtless still part of the Minolta expertise.

But you won't go wrong with any of those 3 makes. Nor with the best offerings from Olympus, Panasonic, Fuji, etc.
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They are, checking one store, $899, $999 and $1199 respectively. The Canon is in the ballpark. I thought the Sony was a 500 hundred dollar camera, in which case the savings would be more signifigant. For that matter, Sony makes much better machines, but they too are in line with the more expensive Nikon.
Not sure where you got your prices from . . .

And funny how you like to mix and match body only and kit prices to skew the conversation your way.

As you already know, I work in a camera store . . . and here are our prices BODY ONLY for the three cameras you mentioned:
  • Canon 60D body: $999.99 (we only sell body only-no kit lens outfit)
  • Nikon D7000 body: $1199.99 (w/18-105VR kit lens-$1499.99)
  • Sony A55 body: $749.99 (w/18-55 kit lens-$849.99)
These are real world prices . . . not fictional made up prices.

And funny . . . lately our street prices have been the same or less than B&H, Adorama and many other reputable internet retailers!

At a real camera store, no less . . .

A couple of examples . . .

Nikon D90 w/18-105VR:
  • B&H - $1199.99
  • Adorama - $1199.99
  • Us - $1049.99
Nikon D5000 w/18-55VR
  • B&H - $749.99
  • Adorama - $584.90 (refurbished-brand new no longer available from them)
  • Us - $599.99
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J. D.
Colorado


  • "If your insurance company tells you that you don't need a lawyer . . . hire a lawyer!"
 
My partner and I are considering our first DSLR purchase .. we are moving on from a Panasonic Lumix Point and Shoot which is a few years old.
When I started out I compared all three brands, to me Sony's menu system, as well as their price point were the most user friendly. Also their live view was simply the best in the business. That pretty much sealed the deal for me.
Our photography needs are simple and mostly for holidays, travel, the occasional party at home or work and occasions like new years and that in the city.

My partner is thinking of taking a few classes for an intro of DSLRs and photography coz she has recently taken interest into photography.
Any one of the three will deliver what you want (and much more), the only main factor is the operator (you, the photographer). Taking lessons, reading books will help, better yet, just take pictures, lots of them, you will learn by yourself quickly.
I am fixated on the A55 and think it has a host of features like quicker autofocus, 10fps, panorama, GPS. My partner thinks that it has to be the Nikon on Canon if we want to go for an SLR.
Sony supply image sensors to all the camera makers, but Sony isn't just another DSLR, the world doesn't need another traditional dSLR. What Sony brings is something different, useful, out of box thinking products, backed by their vast electronic know-hows and innovative engineering talents. Sony has THE BEST live view on the market, fast auto focus works full time even during burst shots and video, the 10 fps is for real (with auto focus, in RAW format too) only limited by the buffer size (camera's internal fast memory) and memory card speed. On the other hand, A55 has regular burst mode that take "only" 7fps (to me is still "too fast"), which can be fully manually controlled. One feature my wife likes the most is panorama, of course, having all the photos with GPS tag is very handy (when import to photo management software like Adobe Light Room or Apple's Aperture).
Can anyone help us out with what we might be loosing if we opt for the sony .. or is it really worth paying the big bucks for the nikon or canon?
Canon and Nikon have more lens line up simply for their longer history (heritage) but keep in mind a lot of them are film era lenses, they are not optimized for digital cameras. While Sony has smaller line up but they cover most what you need already. Also the world famous Zeiss is in partnership with Sony to make some best pro lenses. The only auto focus Zeiss lenses available are for Sony camera. What more can you ask for?

Sony has in-body image stabilizer so every lens designed for Sony Alpha mount is stabilized (including $20 ebay hunt). This is a huge advantage.
And also any comments and suggestions on purchasing online vs brick n motor stores.. as the price difference seems to be substantial.. ?
For camera and lens I always buy from local store because: 1) I can compare, test different brands, models, can't get that experience from internet retailers; 2) if anything went wrong I can simply exchange or return the products right away; 3) support the "smaller guy", the camera shops are usually run by photographers so it's good place to ask question, test new gears, etc., and usually they are willing to match internet price. I bought 70-400G lens from my local store (Vancouver Canada) for $1499 while typical online price was US$1599 plus international shipping and currency exchange. My friend bought his A55 with kit lens from the same store for only $699! Its all about relationship. Once you bought dSLR (or SLT) you enter a relationship with the system, as well as local shops (for all the things you need in future - bags, filters, lights, tripod, etc.). Once you familiar with your gears and knowing more about your shooting preference, you will be more confident ordering things online. I bought quite a few niche gadgets from Amazon, ebay to enhance my system.

There are many suggestions/onions expressed here, but in the end you need to make your own mind. Trust your own gut feeling, and have fun!
 
They are, checking one store, $899, $999 and $1199 respectively. The Canon is in the ballpark. I thought the Sony was a 500 hundred dollar camera, in which case the savings would be more signifigant. For that matter, Sony makes much better machines, but they too are in line with the more expensive Nikon.
Not sure where you got your prices from . . .

And funny how you like to mix and match body only and kit prices to skew the conversation your way.

As you already know, I work in a camera store . . . and here are our prices BODY ONLY for the three cameras you mentioned:
  • Canon 60D body: $999.99 (we only sell body only-no kit lens outfit)
  • Nikon D7000 body: $1199.99 (w/18-105VR kit lens-$1499.99)
  • Sony A55 body: $749.99 (w/18-55 kit lens-$849.99)
These are real world prices . . . not fictional made up prices.

And funny . . . lately our street prices have been the same or less than B&H, Adorama and many other reputable internet retailers!
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1002&message=38190480

Dave
 
Considering that Canon and Nikon (and Pentax and Olympus) all combined are probably smaller than Sony's smallest division . . .

Who really is the bigger brand???
So the basis of buying a product is who is the bigger company? Big companu good, bad company bad?

Dave
 
Although not a fan of this camera, (It wouldn't meet my needs) I recomended it to the OP as being more than able to meet his needs. Yesterday I checked the price, and it's NOT cheap. For that kind of money the OP would be better off with either the Canon or the Nikon.
"That kind of money" doesn't buy the OP the 60D or D7000 as they are respectively 33% and 60% more expensive.
They are, checking one store, $899, $999 and $1199 respectively. The Canon is in the ballpark. I thought the Sony was a 500 hundred dollar camera, in which case the savings would be more signifigant. For that matter, Sony makes much better machines, but they too are in line with the more expensive Nikon.

Oh, gosh, I forgot who I'm talking to. Forget I said anything... :(

Dave
$500?

So you thought Sony had somehow produced the feature rich mid range A55 and was able to sell it for $500, the same price as the 2009 entry level Nikon D3000 sells for today?

What a plonker.
 
Although not a fan of this camera, (It wouldn't meet my needs) I recomended it to the OP as being more than able to meet his needs. Yesterday I checked the price, and it's NOT cheap. For that kind of money the OP would be better off with either the Canon or the Nikon.
"That kind of money" doesn't buy the OP the 60D or D7000 as they are respectively 33% and 60% more expensive.
They are, checking one store, $899, $999 and $1199 respectively. The Canon is in the ballpark. I thought the Sony was a 500 hundred dollar camera, in which case the savings would be more signifigant. For that matter, Sony makes much better machines, but they too are in line with the more expensive Nikon.

Oh, gosh, I forgot who I'm talking to. Forget I said anything... :(

Dave
$500?

So you thought Sony had somehow produced the feature rich mid range A55 and was able to sell it for $500, the same price as the 2009 entry level Nikon D3000 sells for today?

What a plonker.
Yes, I thought that. Why not shoot me? Indict me for criminal thought? Of course, while I believe innovations are often a virtue, many of those on this camera don't work properly.

Why not make fun of the idea that I recomended it to the OP?

Hey, skys the limit here! Knock yourself out. Make sure to remind everyone that my admitting that I erred is the ultimate sign of depravity?

Dave
 

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