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Good try Seth! You're right that the two on the wings have one thing in common not shared by the middle one. But no, they ain't Nikkors.I'd say the ones on the wings are Nikkors, but that's just a shot in the dark.
The middle one looks different.
The ring on the wings looks like Canon FD later version. My guess based on sizes and min. focus distance: left = 50/1.8, right = 100/2.8Brand? Mount? Focal length? Max aperture? Version/generation if applicable?
This turns out to be harder than I thought it would be but you're on the right track in at least some ways.RomanB wrote:
Good thinking. Canon FD is wrong. However, for the lens on the left, 50 is correct and 1.8 about right but not quite. For the lens on the right 100 is about right but not quite whereas 2.8 is wrong.The ring on the wings looks like Canon FD later version. My guess based on sizes and min. focus distance: left = 50/1.8, right = 100/2.8
Astute observation regarding the close focus! 28 is correct but 2.8 is wrong and it's not a Minolta as far as the brand is concerned. Now the rest should be easy. ;-)Center I've never seen before but it focuses darn close so my guess is: either some 28/2.8 or some 50/3.5-4 macro, maybe Minolta?
The ring on the wings looks like Canon FD later version. My guess based on sizes and min. focus distance: left = 50/1.8, right = 100/2.8Brand? Mount? Focal length? Max aperture? Version/generation if applicable?
Center I've never seen before but it focuses darn close so my guess is: either some 28/2.8 or some 50/3.5-4 macro, maybe Minolta?
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Nej, som sagt, Canon FD är det inte så vad gissar du Lincoln? ;-)I have a Canon FD 50mm 1.8 and it doesn't look like that. Minimum close focus on my Canon is 0.6 meters, as well.
Not Canon, Olympus or Nikon, that pretty much stikes me out. The left one still too small for 50/1.4, maybe Minolta 50/1.7?Good thinking. Canon FD is wrong. However, for the lens on the left, 50 is correct and 1.8 about right but not quite. For the lens on the right 100 is about right but not quite whereas 2.8 is wrong.The ring on the wings looks like Canon FD later version. My guess based on sizes and min. focus distance: left = 50/1.8, right = 100/2.8
Actually I see aperture settings go from right to left. I think Nikons have that but maybe other brands that I don't know about... doesn't really look like a typical Nikon...Astute observation regarding the close focus! 28 is correct but 2.8 is wrong and it's not a Minolta as far as the brand is concerned.Center I've never seen before but it focuses darn close so my guess is: either some 28/2.8 or some 50/3.5-4 macro, maybe Minolta?
Haha. I give up.Now the rest should be easy. ;-)
Don't give up. You just nailed one. The one to the left is indeed a Minolta 50/1.7. The one in the middle is not a Nikkor, but now the two that are left should be real easy anyway. ;-)Haha. I give up.
At the end don't forget to say how good (or bad) they are![]()
Now we're getting mighty close. Minolta MD, yes, but Rokkors no (if we want to be picky). Both lenses (left and right) are from the period after 1981 when Minolta had dropped the Rokkor designation and just called them Minolta. Further, the filter thread is not 55 mm but 49, and the lens to the right is not 100/2.8 but 85/2. Vivitar, close focus, and Komine are all correct but it is f/2.0, not 2.8. Anyway, you got about as close as it is reasonable to get. So applauses!2 lenses with yellow digits look like Minolta MD Rokkors with 55mm filter thread. The lens in the center is Vivitar 28mm f/2.8 (I know because I have exactly the same lens in Canon FD mount). So my guess is (left to right): Minolta 50/1.7, Komine-made Vivitar 28/2.8 Close Focus and... hm... Minolta 100/2.8?
That's perfectly right. And the fact that you bought yours in 1986 helps me date mine rather closely. Thanks for that. I know it must be 1983 or after because it has the index pin on the mount introduced with the Minolta X-600. But it is obviously an early serial number, earlier than yours, so probably made already in 1983 or 1984.The one on the right looks exactly like my Minolta MD 85mm f2--mine is serial # 8007702 so they are pretty close in age (I bought mine new in 1986). I am now using it with my G1 and I find it to be excellent for normal/far distance photography but no so great at the minimum focusing distance...
Yes, it is the 50/1.7.The one on the left is another Minolta. I have the MD 50mm f1.4 and it's close (same minimum focus distance) but yours is a little shorter. It could be an MD 50mm f1.7 or even f2...
You're welcome. Actually, it was early 1986 or maybe even late 1985 since I bought it to photograph Halley's Comet in Aruba (IIRC, our trip was in March). Of course, the lens could have been on the shelf for a while at my local camera store, but it is probably a 1985 vintage I would guess...That's perfectly right. And the fact that you bought yours in 1986 helps me date mine rather closely. Thanks for that. I know it must be 1983 or after because it has the index pin on the mount introduced with the Minolta X-600. But it is obviously an early serial number, earlier than yours, so probably made already in 1983 or 1984.
Can't give you much of a personal evaluation at this point since I have yet to get an adapter as well as an m43 camera to go with it. ;-) I did try to see if it would fit provisionally on my current Pentax, but the K-mount is so much wider than the MD mount that it would not even hold the lens in place.I'm curoius as to your evaluation of the Vivitar 28mm. I haven't even tried my Minolta 28mm f2.8 since I assumed legacy wide angles would not be that good and the Minolta 28mm f2.8 was never considered a stellar performer (I have the Panasonic 14-45mm for that focal length anyway). Of course, your Vivitar is f2 which is a plus, but I'd really like to know how well it performs at the minimum focus distance and f5.6. I do a lot of work close up so I'm always looking for alternatives...
Yes, that seems likely. In fact, your lens has one of the higher serial numbers I have seen. The highest among those sold by Kevin Cameras (which appear to specialize in relatively rare Minolta MD lenses) is 8009045. It's not inconceivable that only some 10,000 were built. While the lens was in production from 1981 to 1997, I wonder how many were made after Minolta introduced their new mount for AF lenses in 1985.You're welcome. Actually, it was early 1986 or maybe even late 1985 since I bought it to photograph Halley's Comet in Aruba (IIRC, our trip was in March). Of course, the lens could have been on the shelf for a while at my local camera store, but it is probably a 1985 vintage I would guess...That's perfectly right. And the fact that you bought yours in 1986 helps me date mine rather closely. Thanks for that. I know it must be 1983 or after because it has the index pin on the mount introduced with the Minolta X-600. But it is obviously an early serial number, earlier than yours, so probably made already in 1983 or 1984.
I like the hood for the 85mm, especially the ability to reverse it for storage...One of the minor differences is that the new version has a groove on the barrel for a clip-on lens hood. I was lucky enough to get an original hood with mine, and it looks as though it would be quite effective as well as quite convenient (since it reverses on the lens for easy storage). Probably, I'll be able to use it on the 50/1.7 too, since the latter is restricted to half its original FOV on an m43 camera.
The legacy lens thing is interesting, but I have tried to resist buying anything that I didn't already have. In addition to the Minolta 28mm, 50mm, and 85mm, I also have a Vivitar 135mm f2.3 Series 1 and a Minolta MC 300mm f4.5. I was curious as to how these old lenses would perform. In general they do okay, but I am getting to the point where I can't afford to "waste" time on marginal lenses. Or, to put it another way, I find it hard to justify my limited photographic time on anything but the best lenses I can afford. Certainly lenses designed for digital cameras can potentially be better than lenses from the film era, if only on anti-reflection lens coatings. My problem are (1) I like manual focus lenses, and (2) I can't afford a set of Zeiss lenses. So I am leaning toward Voigtlander at the moment...Not sure it makes sense to pay as much as I did. ;-) But once I started down the Minolta MD line, I figured I should continue that route, particularly since the 85/2 seemed like a good lens with a slim form factor. The only way to get one for much less than I paid would be from someone who does not know quite what he or she is selling. And the odds for that happening do not seem very promising if only 10,000 or so were made.
I did some tests of the Minolta 50mm, 85mm, Vivitar 135mm, and Panasonic 14-45mm (at 45mm) at the minimum focus distance. I should put the shots online but my summation is that the lenses need to be stopped down to at least f4, with f5.6-f8 being a bit better. The 135mm was the sharpest and had good color rendition (it was called a "close focus" lens so it was probably optimzed for that). The 14-45mm (at 45mm) was second best (actually pretty close), and the 50mm and 85mm were not as sharp.You said that you liked the lens at normal to far distances but not so much at closer range. In what way does it "misbehave" when getting close? Not that I intend to use it for macro work but it's always good to know what one can expect. If you have additional comments about its performance at normal to far distances, I'd be interested in those too.
Many thanks for your thoughts! See some comments below.UnderDriven wrote:
Yes, that's neat and I like the clip-on construction too. Nowadays, hoods are usually fitted by means of a bayonet-like construction, which, like the clip-on type, makes it very easy to put the hood on and off. The old threaded hoods make the process too slow and finicky for my liking. Hoods should go on and off in a snap and reverse on the lens for storage. If that solution is unavailable, as it is on many legacy lenses, I am apt to go with a collapsible (rubber) one that I can leave on all the time, even if it looks cheap.I like the hood for the 85mm, especially the ability to reverse it for storage...
Hmm. At least the middle three of the lenses you already own (50, 85, 135) have an enviable reputation and I seriously doubt that even current Zeiss or Voigtländer lenses would be more than marginally better (if at all). Although I certainly wouldn't deny the merits of current lens technology, these three all belong to a category of lenses where not a whole lot has happened since they were designed. They are all relatively simple constructions, essentially double-gauss with six or seven elements, which also means that the number of lens surfaces is hardly a serious problem for the lens coating technique of the time. When it comes to coatings, my general impression (which doesn't aspire to be more than just an impression) is that major steps forward were taken up to about 1980 but that later developments make less of a difference, not because there is no progress but because what had already been achieved was already close to the physical limit.The legacy lens thing is interesting, but I have tried to resist buying anything that I didn't already have. In addition to the Minolta 28mm, 50mm, and 85mm, I also have a Vivitar 135mm f2.3 Series 1 and a Minolta MC 300mm f4.5. I was curious as to how these old lenses would perform. In general they do okay, but I am getting to the point where I can't afford to "waste" time on marginal lenses. Or, to put it another way, I find it hard to justify my limited photographic time on anything but the best lenses I can afford. Certainly lenses designed for digital cameras can potentially be better than lenses from the film era, if only on anti-reflection lens coatings. My problem are (1) I like manual focus lenses, and (2) I can't afford a set of Zeiss lenses. So I am leaning toward Voigtlander at the moment...
Not sure I follow you here. Do you mean that it would be more difficult to focus with Contax lenses than with other MF lenses? And if so, why?I even have a couple of Contax G lenses: 28mm and 45mm (one of the all-time sharpest lenses). I have been debating getting a Contax G adapter, but I am concerned about the ease of focusing (which is one of the things I really like about manual focus lenses). Getting an adapter and buying a 90mm would make for a nice set of compact lenses for the G1, but I don't really know how they perform close up and there was no Contax G macro...
Yes, I have thought of getting a legacy macro too, perhaps even bellows and a focusing rail (which, in contrast to an ordinary macro lens, is something I never had even in the film days). It would be fun to play with and legacy macros also belong among the lens types that I think are still going strong. I guess the cost would stay reasonable even if I wouldn't use it all that much.One lens I have bought is an Olympus 80mm macro + Auto Tube to do macro work. It is a very nice lens in the studio but a bit cumbersome in the field...