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At the moment I am in 'Live discussion' with an Adobe operator. I have asked the question

"wondering why an electronic download and subscription cost £91.29 in the UK but only $85.00 (£52.03) in the US?"

hmmm been waiting for a few minutes now, and still no reply. I know what I think the reason is. Adobe claim that it is the added cost of support in the UK. But as I recall the last time I tried to get help with a Adobe product the support came from somewhere far away.

I also recall that the technical assistance was totally useless and the solution came from Apple who resolved the problem. The problem in that instance was 100% Adobe.

I'll let you know when the answer comes
 
Got a reply: Referring to Production Premium CS5.5 subscription prices

Adobe: Although Adobe Europe and Adobe US are different parts of the same global company, European Marketing strategies and pricing are not directly related to those used for the US. The prices are not simply converted from the dollar pricing used for US products, therefore the pricing used for each country in the EMEA region may vary.

Adobe: All products sold to EU customers will include a VAT charge of 21% unless a valid VAT registration ID is provided. If you are based outside of the EU, the VAT rate, and hence the total price, may alter once your billing country has been selected.

Me: That does not add up as £52.03 (US store) + VAT @ 20% = £60.00 not £91.29

So as usual if I (UK based) want to but an Adobe product I must pop over to the US or Canada to buy it at a high price as opposed to the exorbitant UK price. Same old, same old
 
photoad said:
Got a reply: Referring to Production Premium CS5.5 subscription prices

Adobe: Although Adobe Europe and Adobe US are different parts of the same global company, European Marketing strategies and pricing are not directly related to those used for the US. The prices are not simply converted from the dollar pricing used for US products, therefore the pricing used for each country in the EMEA region may vary.

Adobe: All products sold to EU customers will include a VAT charge of 21% unless a valid VAT registration ID is provided. If you are based outside of the EU, the VAT rate, and hence the total price, may alter once your billing country has been selected.

Me: That does not add up as £52.03 (US store) + VAT @ 20% = £60.00 not £91.29

So as usual if I (UK based) want to but an Adobe product I must pop over to the US or Canada to buy it at a high price as opposed to the exorbitant UK price. Same old, same old
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Can you not buy it on line from the US? I live in Canada and downloaded from the US and saved $100 over the Canadian price.
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Brian D. Schneider said:
Can you not buy it on line from the US? I live in Canada and downloaded from the US and saved $100 over the Canadian price.
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Unfortunately I cannot buy it from the USA as my credit cards are all UK based and the store will not process them for a US purchase.

It been this way for years. Adobe really turned nasty just before the CS series came out. Just getting all they can, with ever decreasing steps of functionality.

Huge backward steps if you look at Premier.
 
Just be grateful you don't live in Australia, the mark up is ridiculous.

PS5 full is from $1,168.
Creative suite premium is from $3,175
Creative suite master is from $4,344

https://store3.adobe.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?store=OLS-AU&nr=1#view=ols_cat&store=OLS-AU&loc=en_au&catID=SPECIALS

Also it is interesting going to Adobe Australia takes you to the cheaper education section not the normal section.

One little tip to be very aware of, don't buy the suite version unless you intend to upgrade it for ever. If you buy the suite version then decide a couple of years down the track you only want to upgrade Photoshop and not the rest Adobe say......"Sorry we only allow you to upgrade the whole suite not just Photoshop. If you want the new version of Photoshop you will need to purchase the full version of Photoshop."

So be aware if you are a student and get a great discount on the suite version while you are at school, you are going to get royally screwed when you go to upgrade.
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Gaaaa! That's freaking horrible--mate.
 
Suppose one subscribes to their Premium and in a year something happens and they no longer want to pay $85/mo. for whatever reason like loss of work, etc.. Can Adobe just shut the entire program off like you never used it?

I'd be hopping mad if I paid over $1,000 in some subscription only to have it totally shut me off from use or retrieval of my images due to an upgrade. I could struggle along with my store bought CS5 version forever (maybe), but if they pull the plug as in "You didn't pay your $85 this month so nothing for you and it's disconnected forever." I'd be furious as they may be in some file format that only Adobe's most current version could read and open so you couldn't open it even with a older copy of CS5.

Come to think of it, that sounds a bit like Autodesk's (Autocad) methods where you cannot open the newer version formats with the older version so you MUST upgrade.

Mack
 
I would say the Adobe's subscription would be similar to your internet subscription/car rental etc.

It gives you access to the internet as long as you pay your monthly bill. It would be stupid for Adobe to allow you to pay for one month, cancel your subscription then continue to use the program, and Adobe wonders why their program is downloaded so much from illegal websites.
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And on many applications in the Adobe suites you new files can't be opened by earlier versions. That's the way Illustrator, Flash, and InDesign have worked for several versions. And yes, Adobe wants to put its professional users on the same revenue treadmill that Autodesk enjoys. At least there are reasonably professionally viable alternatives to Autodesk. Not so with the Adobe suite.

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For those unfortunates who have to pay the VAT and other added fees, if they could figure out a way of getting an American prepaid credit card then perhaps they could download the US software. Just a thought.In the US taxes very all over the place, in California sales tax is as high as 10 per cent, in Oregon next door, sales tax is ZERO.

Florida, I believe, has no income tax. Ironically, many of the states with the highest taxes are the ones most in debt.! Don't forget, US taxes are due this year on April 18th, not the 15th as usual.

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It's much cheaper from the US than the UK. This was my experience:

When I upgraded my Mac to Snow Leopard, a while back when I installed Time Machine, I found that Adobe Photoshop 7 no longer ran. This was important for my job, at that time I was making lots of newspaper and magazine adverts using many layers of artwork and photographic images. Luckily I had a laptop to get by with, better than nothing.

There was no warning about this lack of backward compatibilty from Apple but when I Googled the problem I found hundreds of angry Photoshop users who'd fallen into the same trap.

Considering that there are a lot of professionals using Photoshop who also use Mac's I was rather shocked.

The expensive solution was to upgrade to Creative Suite and I found a seller in the United States who shipped me a disc and saved me £100 or so off the UK price.

Someone suggested that Apple don't talk much to Adobe as they want you to use their photo software. I'm not sure if it's true but it explains a lot.
 
Thats not just Adobe products, its pretty much everything, you can get certain dSLRs cheaper, lens are pretty much always cheaper, same goes for notebooks, and you can go on and on..

Reason behind this is, that "big companies" thinks that EU can pay for this, cause they are wealthy enough.

Thats reason why in my country Sony A900 costs 200% of what it cost in US (just example, doesnt apply for D700 or 5DMK2, they are still more expensive here, just not that much more).
photoad said:
At the moment I am in 'Live discussion' with an Adobe operator. I have asked the question

"wondering why an electronic download and subscription cost £91.29 in the UK but only $85.00 (£52.03) in the US?"

hmmm been waiting for a few minutes now, and still no reply. I know what I think the reason is. Adobe claim that it is the added cost of support in the UK. But as I recall the last time I tried to get help with a Adobe product the support came from somewhere far away.

I also recall that the technical assistance was totally useless and the solution came from Apple who resolved the problem. The problem in that instance was 100% Adobe.

I'll let you know when the answer comes
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Subscription pricing is very common for business software pricing. We pay MS an annual subscription price for our software. If we don't pay then we lose the right to use the software.

My company sales enterprise software and we offer a subscription pricing model, we not get a lot of our sales via subscription. Costs less money up front for the customer and provides a constant price. Our products require a license file that is unique to each customer environment and when they buy subscription the license is good for one year. If the customer decides not to renew the product will cease to function.

Adobe's model is a little unique in offering a subscription model to individual customers. Will be interesting to see if they find the model successful. Adobe is pretty sophisticated in activating their products, I would assume the product will cease to function if you don't pay a renewal fee.
 
I don't know about Photoshop, but when I "upgraded" a machine to Vista (I use the term upgrade very loosely where Vista is concerned). I had to buy a new version Elements. The same when I upgraded to Windows 7 I needed a new version of Elements.

I have also had this with several other products from different companies that look at OS upgrades as revenue opportunities to force you to pay for an upgrade. Understandable when major coding is needed, but in most cases simple tweaks would get the products to run on OS upgrades.

Funny part is MS is generally not a problem, I can run old versions of Office with no problems on the latest Win 7 64.
 
things are worth what people are willing to pay for them ..big buissiness knows this and has no moral qualms in exploiting it thats why things cost diffferent prices in different parts of the world ......".Never give a sucker an even break "

its also the reason why i have no qualms about getting pirate copys of CD's DVD's and computer software ..... if they are happy to rip ME off I'm happy to rip them off too ... "do onto others as they try to do onto you " ;)
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. Ironically, many of the states with the highest taxes are the ones most in debt.! Don't forget, US taxes are due this year on April 18th, not the 15th as usual.

Texas, no income tax, 27 billion in debt, and dead last in everything.
 
photoad said:
At the moment I am in 'Live discussion' with an Adobe operator. I have asked the question

"wondering why an electronic download and subscription cost £91.29 in the UK but only $85.00 (£52.03) in the US?"
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Prices differ for the SAME product around the world all the time.

This is due to the 'consumer-price index' and economic structures of any particular local area, trade region, or even continent.

A complex mix of localized trade rules, taxes, import tariffs, regulations, etc come into play here. That's why things like electronic goods, cars, furniture, and all kinds of stuff are a different price in the UK, USA, Australia, India, Israel, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, China, Sweden, or wherever.

IF you think that Adobe products should cost exactly the SAME in every country your are completely mistaken. It's never been that way, and probably never will be...unless we create a 100% global economy with exactly the same demographic parameters applying right across the entire planet.

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