peter leempoel
Member
Does any 717 owner have experience with making prints at home ? I read about the good results of Canon i550 with very cheap separate colorink patrons.
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Printing at home ?
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Yehuda Katz
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Printing in a lab is MUCH cheaper, better in terms of quality, and above all - it's waterproof! I processed today in a Fuji lab, about 200 photos in one hour.
If there is no SPECIAL reason, I would suggest that you don'tprint yourself your images.
Regards, Yehuda
I'm pretty much quit printing at home, unless it's something I need now or just want to check something.
I burn my photos to a CDR and take to Sam's. They use the Fuji Frontier machine and the service is very inexpensive. I pay .20 for a 4x6 print.
Most of the time I get them back the same day-- it would probably take me longer to print them myself. The quality is much better and no worries about buying ink and paper.
Linda
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I burn my photos to a CDR and take to Sam's. They use the Fuji Frontier machine and the service is very inexpensive. I pay .20 for a 4x6 print.
Most of the time I get them back the same day-- it would probably take me longer to print them myself. The quality is much better and no worries about buying ink and paper.
Linda
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I wouldn't say that you will be able to print a full roll of 24-36 images each time or that you'd want to. Costs are a bit more but time is the thing.
I do print at home on my Canon S900 though. Mainly for the picture trees,refridgerator, frames, etc.... but not for albums.
The only point I disagree with the others on is quality. The prints from my S900 are very, very, very nice. No one would ever know they are from a printer unless they put a magnifier to them. That debate can go on in the printer forum.
Go for it if you can. Just read through the printer forum and understand that the learning curve can be steep. Qimage Pro is the best printing software for a number of reasons.
Take the time to calibrate your Lab Prints to match your screen. Next work with Qimage to profile it's output to match the lab prints. The nicest feature about Qimage is that it creates a profile for the image, it doesnt' change the actual image. I have my PC set up so that I can print them on a Fuji Lab Machine at Wallmart or whatever and on my S900 with the brightness, colors, hues, etc...matching darn near perfect. The only difference is in the luster/feel of the paper. I like Epson High Gloss, but that's just me.
tim
I do print at home on my Canon S900 though. Mainly for the picture trees,refridgerator, frames, etc.... but not for albums.
The only point I disagree with the others on is quality. The prints from my S900 are very, very, very nice. No one would ever know they are from a printer unless they put a magnifier to them. That debate can go on in the printer forum.
Go for it if you can. Just read through the printer forum and understand that the learning curve can be steep. Qimage Pro is the best printing software for a number of reasons.
Take the time to calibrate your Lab Prints to match your screen. Next work with Qimage to profile it's output to match the lab prints. The nicest feature about Qimage is that it creates a profile for the image, it doesnt' change the actual image. I have my PC set up so that I can print them on a Fuji Lab Machine at Wallmart or whatever and on my S900 with the brightness, colors, hues, etc...matching darn near perfect. The only difference is in the luster/feel of the paper. I like Epson High Gloss, but that's just me.
tim
tony gilmour
Senior Member
I use an epson1290 photo printer.
To get the best results I have found that the Epson papers work best, a fair bit of manipulation is required with colours if you use other brand papers, so If you want to print at home be prepared to muck around a bit with inks and papers until you get it right, and even then it can be frustrating.
Some manufacturers supply profiles for the printer when using other brand papers and inks, i find most of the time they just don't work so youre better off sticking with the simple profiles supplied with the printer and just manipulate the colours if you have to.
After printing over 2,000 prints the epson inks and papers give the best results for their printers.
I have used numerous brands and settled on the semi-gloss 250 gms from epson.
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To get the best results I have found that the Epson papers work best, a fair bit of manipulation is required with colours if you use other brand papers, so If you want to print at home be prepared to muck around a bit with inks and papers until you get it right, and even then it can be frustrating.
Some manufacturers supply profiles for the printer when using other brand papers and inks, i find most of the time they just don't work so youre better off sticking with the simple profiles supplied with the printer and just manipulate the colours if you have to.
After printing over 2,000 prints the epson inks and papers give the best results for their printers.
I have used numerous brands and settled on the semi-gloss 250 gms from epson.
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You only live once ,and always suck the lemon.
don't loose your head,or your sense of humour, and never take anybody too seriously, especially yourself and those that try to walk over you.
santa
Senior Member
The Epson 2200 creates prints that are "waterproof" (can't tell about to what degree but they don't bleed after submersion and rubbing". i get better quality since I control it completely but your mileage may very and depends on your expertise.
JohnK
Veteran Member
Yes, I print 12"x16" x 160 DPI prints from a 707, using an Epson Stylus Photo 1200. To me, they look stunning. The 1200 is not a current model, goes on eBay for about 150. The current model is the Photo 1280, which has a 100. rebate from epson currently in effect, with the rebate the best price seems to be around 325-350
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Dean Baird
Leading Member
Everyone has different goals and needs for making prints. If you want to print everything you shoot, I would certainly recommend lab printing. Especially if you only need 4x6's. You can do fast, many, cheap this way.
Personally, I'm not a fan of 4x6's. Nor am I fan of putting all my keepers on paper. I post all my keepers to online albums. The really nice pics--the ones I want to print--deserve better than an index card print. So I like to put them on 8.5x11's. I use ye olde Adobe PhotoDeluxe for simple simple processing and a Canon S800 with Canon Photo Paper Pro. No Qimage, no blue hoods, no mintor-print matching. But wow; I love the prints and everyone I seem to show them to can't believe their digital/home prints. No doubt they're just being nice.
Tempting as it is to worry about printer DPI's, we are no where near challenging inkjets with today's digital cameras. Injets may throw 1200x2400 dpi, but full page digital camera shots are about 240 - 300 dpi. When you get that Kodak 14n, you'll start getting pics to match your inkjet's resolution.
I like being able to print what I want when I want. And If I want to put together a nice multi-image collection together for a multi-image frame, I can control the scale for each image.
If you do print from an inkjet, you really do have to get the good paper. It makes all the difference.
Dean Baird
Personally, I'm not a fan of 4x6's. Nor am I fan of putting all my keepers on paper. I post all my keepers to online albums. The really nice pics--the ones I want to print--deserve better than an index card print. So I like to put them on 8.5x11's. I use ye olde Adobe PhotoDeluxe for simple simple processing and a Canon S800 with Canon Photo Paper Pro. No Qimage, no blue hoods, no mintor-print matching. But wow; I love the prints and everyone I seem to show them to can't believe their digital/home prints. No doubt they're just being nice.
Tempting as it is to worry about printer DPI's, we are no where near challenging inkjets with today's digital cameras. Injets may throw 1200x2400 dpi, but full page digital camera shots are about 240 - 300 dpi. When you get that Kodak 14n, you'll start getting pics to match your inkjet's resolution.
I like being able to print what I want when I want. And If I want to put together a nice multi-image collection together for a multi-image frame, I can control the scale for each image.
If you do print from an inkjet, you really do have to get the good paper. It makes all the difference.
Dean Baird
I was using the Epson High Glossy (Premium) photopaper with excellent results on my HP Printer (which uses pigmented ink).
I found a link that said that Epson paper is only good for 6-7 years. To me it's not worth it, so................
I have all my stuff printed through Costco. They process it as if it is a 35mm film picture.
It is Cheaper than anyone else I can find and the results are excellent.
I will do my own printing if I am testing how a layout looks, etc. but that's about it.
D.
DeeDee G.
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I found a link that said that Epson paper is only good for 6-7 years. To me it's not worth it, so................
I have all my stuff printed through Costco. They process it as if it is a 35mm film picture.
It is Cheaper than anyone else I can find and the results are excellent.
I will do my own printing if I am testing how a layout looks, etc. but that's about it.
D.
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Bharat J. Sutaria
Forum Enthusiast
Peter,
The best part of digital photography is "you have your own dark room". This experience is not complete until you print your own pictures.
There are several advantages when you print your own pictures. I have sold over 3000 pictures, using my home printers. It is not that complicated once you figure it out.
The advantages are:
(1) Except for 4 x 6 size, you save a bundle printing on your own.
(2) If you do not like the print, change the color, hue, brightness, contrast etc. in PS and print again.
(3) Todays printer, especially HP 7XXX series would produce equal or better quality print than many outside sources.
(4) You do not have to leave your house for delivery and pick-up.
(5) The printer forum members are as eager and as helpful as Sony forum if you have any question.
(6) The best part of printing at home is: You are not stuck with commercially available print size of 4x6, 5x7, 8x10 etc.etc. You have a complete freedom, when you print at home, to select a custom size that is best suited for the given photo. I have printed and sold pictures sized 2x8, 3x7 to name a few. They sold like hot potato.
Visit the printer column. Once you get hang of "Having it your way" , there is no going back.
By the way, I like HP printers better than any other brand. They are very reliable and produces very good quality pictures.
I hope, this helps,
Bharat J. Sutaria
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mac west
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Tim I just downloaded the Q image pro trial loaded my profiles for monitor and printer and the results are awsome the colors and sharpness thanks.
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I agree except with your choice of hardware epson for me.
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boldent2000
Active member
I must say that I'm a proud owner of the Canon S9000. It prints 13 X 19, and the prints match the picture to a Tee. I read the colors will last 25 years. Also, I've learned its cheaper, more fun, and gives me more bragging rights, to make my own frames. This Christmas you probably can guess what some of my presents will be.
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peter leempoel
Member
Thanks to all of you for your advices. I will try the lab prints here in the Netherlands and will compare with homeprints on a good printer. I will let you know the results. Gr.Peter
bolden,
I also have an S9000 and the prints that come out of it are amazing.
Question for you: what do you mean by making your own frames?
John
LanceD
Senior Member
For a small qty, I print at home: quick and accurate color the way I want it to be b/c my printer is carefull calibrated to give me the exact color I see on the screen. I have the epson 785EXP
I did print from some online, wal-mart, and cosco, the result is OK. Can't compare to my own print. Most of the prints I got back from them is too dark. However, for a large number, you better off let the lab print it, much quicker.
Lance
Happiness is not just to enjoy what you have but to want what you got.
I did print from some online, wal-mart, and cosco, the result is OK. Can't compare to my own print. Most of the prints I got back from them is too dark. However, for a large number, you better off let the lab print it, much quicker.
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Lance
Happiness is not just to enjoy what you have but to want what you got.
ephotoworld
Member
Are you sure about the colorfastness? I believe the Canon S9000 and S900 use the same ink cartridges. Seems like all inkjets suffer some form of fading. I prefer Costco for my prints.
See:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=3523608
There are a lot of other threads that talk about the fading problem.
Herb
See:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=3523608
There are a lot of other threads that talk about the fading problem.
Herb
Koz
Member
Can you use the highest res. images (2.? meg. images) strait from the camara, when using Costco printing with a CDR?
Koz
Koz
boldent2000
Active member
Sorry I was away for a few days. I read it in one of the PC magizines that the canon s9000 color will last up to 25 years if its taken proper care of. Here's a url http://www.usa.canon.com/html/conCprProductDetail.jsp?modelid=6616&item=6657§ion=10214
I've had some very good luck making frames at home. Lowes hardware sales 8 foot sections of picture frames ( oak, pine, cherry and many others). You have to cut to fit, but its worth it. Lowes will also cut the glass to fit what ever size you want. The cost of the wood depends on how much detail and type of wood you want. I bought an 8' piece for $7. 40 today ( it was on sale). To have the glass cut cost $5.00.
I use paintshop and adobe to make my matting. The pictures are beautiful
I've had some very good luck making frames at home. Lowes hardware sales 8 foot sections of picture frames ( oak, pine, cherry and many others). You have to cut to fit, but its worth it. Lowes will also cut the glass to fit what ever size you want. The cost of the wood depends on how much detail and type of wood you want. I bought an 8' piece for $7. 40 today ( it was on sale). To have the glass cut cost $5.00.
I use paintshop and adobe to make my matting. The pictures are beautiful
LanceD
Senior Member
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