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My Review of the F550EXR

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jimr said:
Personally, I like many others do not like the Panny color reproduction. Owned the wonderful GF-1. Could not get the color reproduction I like.

The TL500 also has the superb pivoting AMOLED 3" screen....
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The Sammy's screen is beautiful and gives the shooting experience some great pleasure. I owned an NX10 and the screen was awesome.

The Panny color never bothered me. You need to shoot raw to get the most in IQ like dynamic range ect. out of the Panny's anyway. So the jpeg color could be bypassed. In raw, it is down to what convertores you use. Example, if you look at the EP1 and GF1 raw tests on DPR, the color is identical using ACR for both cameras. So if the GF1 is not pleasing in raw using ACR, then so is the EP1.
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Stephen
 
Stephen 06 said:
Patrick..how dare you question my credibility or suggest that I am stiring up any trouble.
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How dare I question your credibility? You must be kidding! Normally I don't waste my time with online arguments but I suspect others might be interested in my answer so they don't waste any more time in threads such as this. You asked how dare I question your credibility? Here it is...

You posted two similar threads here in Fujifilm Forum... you complained about two different new cameras in the span of a couple of days with very similar complaints and no photos to back up your complaints... you didn't really 'listen' to any of the advice offered... and, until last night after I confronted you about you ignoring everyone's requests to post some example photos, you seemed to refuse to post photos showing your complaints so people could help you.

I have seen this before in this forum as well as others... someone new comes in and starts making complaints about a brand new camera but doesn't seem to be listening to anyone's responses, seems reluctant to explain their problems effectively enough, and seems to be reluctant to post any sample photos. They just make noise ranting about the same thing over and over. So, I decided to do a quick search of your recent posts over the past few months only to find that there is this very distinct pattern with you...

Your posting history clearly shows you have visited at least nine forums complaining about newly purchased cameras in the past few months! The complaints seem to be almost identical in every forum... focus probs, color probs, slow... and your wording in every forum is almost identical.... “I take pictures mostly of my pets, I have tried several cameras.... I am very disappointed with [camera x]...” or “I am new to photography and purchased the [camera x] but just returned it because of...” And, you tend to jump from one forum to another without posting photos showing your problems. You tend to just complain and jump to the next forum and next camera. This is a type of trolling known as 'hit and run'.

According to your suspiciously similar posts just in the past few months, you have bought and complained about 18 cameras with almost the exact same complaints/posts! Again, the wording in these posts, across NINE forms, is suspiciously similar. Here are the cameras... Canon SX120, Canon SX130, Canon SX230HS, Canon G12, Nikon L110, Nikon L120, Nikon S9100, Nikon P300, Nikon P7000, Pentax X90, Olympus XZ1, Panasonic LX5, Panasonic ZS10, Panasonic FZ100, Casio ZR100, Ricoh P10, Fuji HS20EXR, and Fuji 550EXR. NONE of these cameras can fill your needs of taking photos of your pets? Really????

So, how dare I question your credibility? You have no credibility in my opinion. Your posting history proves that. Your posting history actually paints a picture of a typical forum troll.

I will waste no more time with your posts and hopefully others will now take a few moments to explore your posting history and see the same. People like you are a nuisance to online forums.

Patrick
 
Jeannie46 said:
I compared it to the LX5 because that is the only camera that I found with quick auto focus in any light and very good video, but I wanted a second camera to take outdoors with more zoom...I still hope this will be the camera for that.
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Jeannie

I've seen some add on lens dohicky's for the LX5 that claim to give a 2x or 3.5x boost to the zoom.

I have no idea how well they work but screwing on a lens on to a camera you already know/like may be better than finding a whole new camera?

Here's a cheap one:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EASG58/
 
I don't know how this message wedged itself here in this slot in the threaded view 'tree'... I was in flat view and wanted to add the message to the bottom of the thread. Oh well... can't do anything about where it is placed now! Sorry if the placing of this reply has caused some confusion.

Patrick : )
 
True the Samsung's a great deal but there's not much reach if you want a longer zoom. It's not long enough to give you a shallow dof you can get with the Oly. Plus I have the Samsung TL350 and let me just say that interface is just horrible totally unintuitive.. plus the camera tends to freeze up every once in a while for no reason. The TL500 uses the same and has similar issues I think. The dials on the camera for some reason don't work accurately either. I'd totally get another Samsung in a few years when they have more experience making cameras.
jimr said:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1001&thread=35892829

and

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/674231-REG/Samsung_EC_TL500ZBPBUS_TL500_Digital_Point_and.html
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Hmm, it appears that the camera used a high ISO. Also, it may have had trouble focusing because it was too dark. Perhaps you should let more light in the house?
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The room is one that faces south, with a big bay window and plenty of light.

But I did notice, that the camera goes automatically to ISO of 800...this morning I put the camera on "P' and changed the ISO down to 100 and took the exact same pictures at 100, 200, and 400 and they all came out very dark.

The last one I took was back to the 800 and it came out so so...I will post all of them tonight, when I get home. At the same time, I shot the same picture standing in the same spot from my Canon G12 and it came out great.
Will post them tonight for your thoughts
 
I have NEVER had my TL500 freeze up. The interface is fine. The dials are accurate.
The TL350 is not the TL500....Incorrect assumptions you have made..

You will not get shallow DOF from small sensor cameras except through software manipulation...something Sony has done well.
SayJaiBow said:
True the Samsung's a great deal but there's not much reach if you want a longer zoom. It's not long enough to give you a shallow dof you can get with the Oly.
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The Oly will not give you much shallower DOF as it also uses a small sensor.
SayJaiBow said:
Plus I have the Samsung TL350 and let me just say that interface is just horrible totally unintuitive.
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Not the case with the TL500 although some combinations of choices are not available...but otherwise the interface is easy to work with on the TL500
SayJaiBow said:
.. plus the camera tends to freeze up every once in a while for no reason.
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Not the case with the TL500.
SayJaiBow said:
The TL500 uses the same and has similar issues I think.
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Not true.
SayJaiBow said:
The dials on the camera for some reason don't work accurately either.
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Not true for the TL500.
SayJaiBow said:
jimr said:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1001&thread=35892829

and

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/674231-REG/Samsung_EC_TL500ZBPBUS_TL500_Digital_Point_and.html
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One other thing I would suggest is to shoot at M size instead of L size, and to make sure that image quality is set to Fine, not Normal.

EXR cameras produce much better quality images at Medium size than Large size.
Maybe it will produce brighter images as well (?).
 
One thing for sure my TL350 is one POS. Freezes even after the latest firmware update and the menu's are atrocious! I looked at the TL500's menu and it doesn't look much better. I hate it that when you change a setting that it has this animation that happens and isn't snappy at all. I have sworn off all Samsung cameras for a while. As for shallow depth of focus no small sensored camera will give you much of that but the XZ-1 has more than all the others no wonky software tricks needed to achieve it like the Sonys.
jimr said:
I have NEVER had my TL500 freeze up. The interface is fine. The dials are accurate.
The TL350 is not the TL500....Incorrect assumptions you have made..

You will not get shallow DOF from small sensor cameras except through software manipulation...something Sony has done well.
SayJaiBow said:
True the Samsung's a great deal but there's not much reach if you want a longer zoom. It's not long enough to give you a shallow dof you can get with the Oly.
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The Oly will not give you much shallower DOF as it also uses a small sensor.
jimr said:
Plus I have the Samsung TL350 and let me just say that interface is just horrible totally unintuitive.
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Not the case with the TL500 although some combinations of choices are not available...but otherwise the interface is easy to work with on the TL500
jimr said:
.. plus the camera tends to freeze up every once in a while for no reason.
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Not the case with the TL500.
jimr said:
The TL500 uses the same and has similar issues I think.
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Not true.
jimr said:
The dials on the camera for some reason don't work accurately either.
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Not true for the TL500.
jimr said:
jimr said:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1001&thread=35892829

and

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/674231-REG/Samsung_EC_TL500ZBPBUS_TL500_Digital_Point_and.html
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SayJaiBow said:
I hate it that when you change a setting that it has this animation that happens and isn't snappy at all.
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No animation on the TL500...Snappy change...Youi don't know the TL500 ...clearly and are making assumptions based upon another Samsung camera.
SayJaiBow said:
I have sworn off all Samsung cameras for a while.
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Perhaps that is your problem...
SayJaiBow said:
As for shallow depth of focus no small sensored camera will give you much of that but the XZ-1 has more than all the others..
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Totally untrue! A small sensor camera that has a longer focal length reach than the XZ-1 can produce shallower DOF at the same F stop a at the same distance from the subject.

Canon G12 for example....
SayJaiBow said:
no wonky software tricks needed to achieve it like the Sonys.
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That wonky software trick works beautifully. I wish my TL500 had that capability.
 
jimr said:
jimr said:
One thing for sure my TL350 is one POS. Freezes even after the latest firmware update and the menu's are atrocious! I looked at the TL500's menu and it doesn't look much better. I hate it that when you change a setting that it has this animation that happens and isn't snappy at all. I have sworn off all Samsung cameras for a while. As for shallow depth of focus no small sensored camera will give you much of that but the XZ-1 has more than all the others no wonky software tricks needed to achieve it like the Sonys.
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Kinda surprising to read. I've had the TL350 for over 6 months now and really like it. Haven't had too bad of a freezing problem yet, and haven't update the firmware.....yet. It's still the original firmware.
 
expressivecanvas said:
How dare I question your credibility? You must be kidding! Normally I don't waste my time with online arguments but I suspect others might be interested in my answer so they don't waste any more time in threads such as this. You asked how dare I question your credibility? Here it is...
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Patrick :D
 
jimr said:
No animation on the TL500...Snappy change...Youi don't know the TL500 ...clearly and are making assumptions based upon another Samsung camera.
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I've seen the TL500's menu and when you change the settings there is a scrolling of the icons that's animated. It's not snappy to me. Sony's menu is MUCH better.
jimr said:
jimr said:
I have sworn off all Samsung cameras for a while.
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Perhaps that is your problem...
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My choice
jimr said:
jimr said:
As for shallow depth of focus no small sensored camera will give you much of that but the XZ-1 has more than all the others..
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Totally untrue! A small sensor camera that has a longer focal length reach than the XZ-1 can produce shallower DOF at the same F stop a at the same distance from the subject.

Canon G12 for example....
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Have you compared the two? I haven't but if you say the G12 can give shallower depth of focus then you can show me.
jimr said:
jimr said:
no wonky software tricks needed to achieve it like the Sonys.
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That wonky software trick works beautifully. I wish my TL500 had that capability.
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I think it sucks because it doesn't do it naturally. The results are uneven if you think it works beautifully then your standard for beautiful is pretty low. LOL
 
SayJaiBow said:
jimr said:
No animation on the TL500...Snappy change...Youi don't know the TL500 ...clearly and are making assumptions based upon another Samsung camera.
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I've seen the TL500's menu and when you change the settings there is a scrolling of the icons that's animated.
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Check the dictionary...Disney and Pixar would love your definition of animation...
"scrolling'...

It's not snappy to me. Sony's menu is MUCH better.
SayJaiBow said:
SayJaiBow said:
SayJaiBow said:
I have sworn off all Samsung cameras for a while.
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Perhaps that is your problem...
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My choice
SayJaiBow said:
SayJaiBow said:
As for shallow depth of focus no small sensored camera will give you much of that but the XZ-1 has more than all the others..
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Totally untrue! A small sensor camera that has a longer focal length reach than the XZ-1 can produce shallower DOF at the same F stop a at the same distance from the subject.

Canon G12 for example....
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Have you compared the two? I haven't but if you say the G12 can give shallower depth of focus then you can show me.
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You clearly do not understand the basics of how DOF varies. Study.
You do not need samples just an understanding of what effects DOF.
Pick up a book on photography...
F stop. Distance. Focal length...(with the same sensor size)
SayJaiBow said:
SayJaiBow said:
SayJaiBow said:
no wonky software tricks needed to achieve it like the Sonys.
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That wonky software trick works beautifully. I wish my TL500 had that capability.
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I think it sucks because it doesn't do it naturally. The results are uneven if you think it works beautifully then your standard for beautiful is pretty low. LOL
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LOL....
 
Your TL500 menu still sucks man sorry.. I know cuz I've seen it and I also have the same kind of menu on my TL350. It's slow at least to me who is used to other more intuitive interfaces from other makes... it's all in all pretty bad.
jimr said:
SayJaiBow said:
jimr said:
No animation on the TL500...Snappy change...Youi don't know the TL500 ...clearly and are making assumptions based upon another Samsung camera.
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I've seen the TL500's menu and when you change the settings there is a scrolling of the icons that's animated.
Click to expand...
Check the dictionary...Disney and Pixar would love your definition of animation...
"scrolling'...
jimr said:
jimr said:
jimr said:
I have sworn off all Samsung cameras for a while.
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Perhaps that is your problem...
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My choice
jimr said:
jimr said:
As for shallow depth of focus no small sensored camera will give you much of that but the XZ-1 has more than all the others..
Click to expand...
Totally untrue! A small sensor camera that has a longer focal length reach than the XZ-1 can produce shallower DOF at the same F stop a at the same distance from the subject.

Canon G12 for example....
Click to expand...
Have you compared the two? I haven't but if you say the G12 can give shallower depth of focus then you can show me.
Click to expand...
You clearly do not understand the basics of how DOF varies. Study.
You do not need samples just an understanding of what effects DOF.
Pick up a book on photography...
F stop. Distance. Focal length...(with the same sensor size)
jimr said:
jimr said:
jimr said:
no wonky software tricks needed to achieve it like the Sonys.
Click to expand...
That wonky software trick works beautifully. I wish my TL500 had that capability.
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I think it sucks because it doesn't do it naturally. The results are uneven if you think it works beautifully then your standard for beautiful is pretty low. LOL
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LOL....
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Jeannie46 said:
Thank for giving me some good advice...I will take the same picture with a lower ISO and see if that helps...I didn't realize it but the camera automatically set itself at 800.
Will post my results later

P.S. There was also some mention of zoom, I didn't use the zoom on these pictures, I was standing close but not too close to them.
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There is definitely some zoom there, the first picture was taken at 25mm which equates to 150mm and the second at 21mm which equates to 120mm.

At those zoom levels you get out of focus areas in front of and behind the point of focus at F5.6 as well as blur issues if the shutter speed is not high enough. The flash set the shutter speed to 1 sixtieth of a second which is probably not enough to offset shake at the magnification you were using, unless you are very steady.

Definitely try again at a wider setting and crop in a bit on the computer as there are plenty of pixels to spare.
 
How delightful to see this ugly overblown struggle hijack a supposed discussion of a new Fuji camera. It may come as a shock to the combatants that some people could not possibly care less -- about the issues, the technicalities or the insults.

You want to rant and rail about another brand or model? DPR's got a forum for you. I'm sure they'd love to hear all about it.

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Tim, FZ18, F20
 
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