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Samuel Pyrtle said:
Does the SD9's ability to render detail down to the pixel level
ALSO make it more susceptible to camera shake and movement (wind,
etc). In other words, would a non-Foveon camera take a pic of a
ABSOLUTELY still object and a pic of that same object with the
SLIGHTEST (and I do mean slightest) movement - and the 2 pics looks
very much the same - due to the bayer sensor not rendering detail
to the pixel level anyway.

Whereas a Foveon Camera (SD9 for now) will show a CRISP pic with
ABSOLUTELY no movement and a 'softer' image with even the SLIGHTEST
movement?
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I think it is true with any macro. Of what I read for macrophotography, when you are taking images that is at least 1:1 and larger, a tripod is almost a required equipment. If that is not possible then at least somehow steady the camera. Many will even suggest a remote or using the timer just to prevent shutter shake. My experience with the F707 on this is even using a tripod I always get more sharp images when I use the built in timer for the shutter instead of hand press.
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Just something we have been wondering about - because this camera
really seems to reflect the slightest wind movement, or operator
movement.
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Try taking the same shots with your other camera and see for yourself if this is true. Of course, assuming your other camera doesnt have image stablization. I know the F707 is not. ;p

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jc
Sony F707
http://www.reefkeepers.org/gallery/f707
http://www.reeftec.com/gallery
 
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Hello Everyone!

It was a busy week for me - work wise. And I was not able to take
many pics at all this week. I had hoped to get out during my lunch
hour - as that is the only time I can snap photos during the week
in the daytime - but I had too much going on and didn't take any
lunch breaks! =(
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Hi Sam

My main concern with the SD9 is its quality at night and higher ISOs.
Could you please attempt some high ISO shots and/or long shutter
speed shots? like a night shot with 30 second exposure?
Perhaps 30 seconds at each of 100, 200 and 400 ISO?
  • Frank
 
Sam,

Thanks for the additions in your photo gallery! I enjoyed them, and as usual there are some excellent details to be seen here and there! I can see the JPG posterization problem on some of your samples. I hope Sigma will fix this with a future software update.

I was happy to know that Sigma USA will take care of the dust in your camera! This is a relief! When you do send it in, then I really hope it will not take too long time before you get back your camera.

Cheers :-)
Geir Rune
 
Is that possible?! It only works with 15sec at ISO100.. right?!
Frank Wang said:
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Hello Everyone!

It was a busy week for me - work wise. And I was not able to take
many pics at all this week. I had hoped to get out during my lunch
hour - as that is the only time I can snap photos during the week
in the daytime - but I had too much going on and didn't take any
lunch breaks! =(
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Hi Sam

My main concern with the SD9 is its quality at night and higher ISOs.
Could you please attempt some high ISO shots and/or long shutter
speed shots? like a night shot with 30 second exposure?
Perhaps 30 seconds at each of 100, 200 and 400 ISO?
  • Frank
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--
Carl Rytterfalk
http://www.pbase.com/rytterfalk
Today Epson 850z - tomorrow Foveon!
 
Jeffrey-at-home said:
jeff-at-work said:
Sorry to trouble you Sam. I know you posted a link before but I
have read every link and still cannot find it!. Where can I
download the software for the raw files? (Anyone else have a link?)
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Here you go Roger. This is the site where I put my pics - and the
software is Windows compatible only. It's a long story, but even
though the Mac software is on the CD, you have to upload it from a
Mac to the server, not from a windows machine. Sam is also windows
and I'll bet the software he uploaded was the Windows version (i.e.
the "Setup" icon), not the Mac version (the "Install" icon), which
can't be seen when you are looking at the CD in windows.
http://reality.sgiweb.org/maxw/tmp/jeffrey/foveon-upload/
--
At-home-in-Osaka
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--
Roger
 
Well -

Even though it was cool (about 65 degrees) and VERY windy and dreary - we decided to head out and take a few more shots....

We never saw the sun - so these new pics were post processed to bump up the exposure... Some shots are at ISO 100 and some are at ISO 200.

We have added about 13 new images in all - and may add one or two more later tonight....

That wind was whipping us around - we were shooting mostly on the coast - or near-by - and it was blowing a good 20-25 knots.... Hard to keep the camera still - tripod or not... =)

I hope you enjoy them....

And the bumping up of the exposure - does that equate to using a higher ISO? Or is it more complicated than that?

Any questions, please let me know - and, as always, if you would like to have the RAW file posted on any of them, we will be happy to oblige.

=)
Sam & Tony

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Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
 
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Well -

Even though it was cool (about 65 degrees) and VERY windy and
dreary - we decided to head out and take a few more shots....

We never saw the sun - so these new pics were post processed to
bump up the exposure... Some shots are at ISO 100 and some are at
ISO 200.

We have added about 13 new images in all - and may add one or two
more later tonight....

That wind was whipping us around - we were shooting mostly on the
coast - or near-by - and it was blowing a good 20-25 knots....
Hard to keep the camera still - tripod or not... =)

I hope you enjoy them....

And the bumping up of the exposure - does that equate to using a
higher ISO? Or is it more complicated than that?

Any questions, please let me know - and, as always, if you would
like to have the RAW file posted on any of them, we will be happy
to oblige.

=)
Sam & Tony

--
Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
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Really great Tony,

The camera seems to be working very well for you. Keep them coming.
--
Regards,
Gavin
Canon Pro90IS, B-300 Canon Pro 70
 
Gavin McKinlay said:
Really great Tony,

The camera seems to be working very well for you. Keep them coming.
--
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You mean you can tell which are mine and which are his????

And you like his better!

LOL!

Just kidding -

Although he does like to pretend he is the better photographer....

=)

Thanks for the comments Gavin - I will be sure to tell Tony - he is busy sitting at his desk playing Never Winter Nights...

We will post some more soon!

-Sam

--
Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
 
Sam, this is great! I'm having a show time over here!

Oh well, I could really need a much BIGGER monitor though, and it should view at least 2268x1512 pixels :-))

Cheers,
Geir Rune
 
Samuel Pyrtle said:
We never saw the sun - so these new pics were post processed to
bump up the exposure... Some shots are at ISO 100 and some are at
ISO 200.
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Great shots, Sam.

It seems your camera setting was stuck on f/5.6 for most of the shots. I dont know if I should blame it on the lack of sun or your Sony F707. But For now I'll blame it on the lack of sun. ;p

I cannot wait to see some of those f/16 and much higher real landscape setting shots.

--
jc
Sony F707
http://www.reefkeepers.org/gallery/f707
http://www.reeftec.com/gallery
 
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Gavin McKinlay said:
Really great Tony,

The camera seems to be working very well for you. Keep them coming.
--
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You mean you can tell which are mine and which are his????

And you like his better!

LOL!

Just kidding -

Although he does like to pretend he is the better photographer....
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I don't know why I thought Tony took those pics Sam. If it was you they are still great!
Samuel Pyrtle said:
=)

Thanks for the comments Gavin - I will be sure to tell Tony - he is
busy sitting at his desk playing Never Winter Nights...

We will post some more soon!

-Sam

--
Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
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--
Regards,
Gavin
Canon Pro90IS, B-300 Canon Pro 70
 
Jimmy Chen said:
Great shots, Sam.

It seems your camera setting was stuck on f/5.6 for most of the
shots. I dont know if I should blame it on the lack of sun or your
Sony F707. But For now I'll blame it on the lack of sun. ;p

I cannot wait to see some of those f/16 and much higher real
landscape setting shots.
Click to expand...
We took a lot of the pics in P mode - or Auto mode - to allow the camera to help make the decision - since it was sooo overcast -

And then we did S mode - shutter priority - to try to keep the shutter speed up high enough to keep from showing too much camera shake, wind motion, etc -

--
Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
 
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Jimmy Chen said:
Great shots, Sam.

It seems your camera setting was stuck on f/5.6 for most of the
shots. I dont know if I should blame it on the lack of sun or your
Sony F707. But For now I'll blame it on the lack of sun. ;p

I cannot wait to see some of those f/16 and much higher real
landscape setting shots.
Click to expand...
We took a lot of the pics in P mode - or Auto mode - to allow the
camera to help make the decision - since it was sooo overcast -

And then we did S mode - shutter priority - to try to keep the
shutter speed up high enough to keep from showing too much camera
shake, wind motion, etc -
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Part 2 -

I typed more - but it didn't show - how strange -

Anyway - I was saying that we did try to boost the underexposed shots from Shutter priority mode - and they looked better - but a little noisy.

Maybe I should try to run them through NEAT IMAGE or something similar.

And I am planning on taking Tuesday off - it is Tony's birthday, and we wanted to maybe go into the Everglades and do some landscape shots and some animal shots, etc.

I just hope the weather will cooperate!

=)
Sam
--
Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
 
The weather Tuesday is going to be great! Thanks for these great shots and have a fun day off! We'll be eagerly waiting! ;-)

Tim(in Tampa)
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Jimmy Chen said:
Great shots, Sam.

It seems your camera setting was stuck on f/5.6 for most of the
shots. I dont know if I should blame it on the lack of sun or your
Sony F707. But For now I'll blame it on the lack of sun. ;p

I cannot wait to see some of those f/16 and much higher real
landscape setting shots.
Click to expand...
We took a lot of the pics in P mode - or Auto mode - to allow the
camera to help make the decision - since it was sooo overcast -

And then we did S mode - shutter priority - to try to keep the
shutter speed up high enough to keep from showing too much camera
shake, wind motion, etc -
Click to expand...
Part 2 -

I typed more - but it didn't show - how strange -

Anyway - I was saying that we did try to boost the underexposed
shots from Shutter priority mode - and they looked better - but a
little noisy.

Maybe I should try to run them through NEAT IMAGE or something
similar.

And I am planning on taking Tuesday off - it is Tony's birthday,
and we wanted to maybe go into the Everglades and do some landscape
shots and some animal shots, etc.

I just hope the weather will cooperate!

=)
Sam
--
Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
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timl2k3 said:
Tim(in Tampa)
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Samuel Pyrtle said:
Jimmy Chen said:
Great shots, Sam.

It seems your camera setting was stuck on f/5.6 for most of the
shots. I dont know if I should blame it on the lack of sun or your
Sony F707. But For now I'll blame it on the lack of sun. ;p

I cannot wait to see some of those f/16 and much higher real
landscape setting shots.
Click to expand...
We took a lot of the pics in P mode - or Auto mode - to allow the
camera to help make the decision - since it was sooo overcast -

And then we did S mode - shutter priority - to try to keep the
shutter speed up high enough to keep from showing too much camera
shake, wind motion, etc -
Click to expand...
Part 2 -

I typed more - but it didn't show - how strange -

Anyway - I was saying that we did try to boost the underexposed
shots from Shutter priority mode - and they looked better - but a
little noisy.

Maybe I should try to run them through NEAT IMAGE or something
similar.

And I am planning on taking Tuesday off - it is Tony's birthday,
and we wanted to maybe go into the Everglades and do some landscape
shots and some animal shots, etc.

I just hope the weather will cooperate!

=)
Sam
--
Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
Click to expand...
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Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
 
Here is the link for 9 more RAW files - Thanks to Gavin for asking for these...

We did max out at the Univ of Miami site - so please download these if you think you will want them - they might be gone after a few days in order to make room for newer ones....

Here's the link again -

http://www.bio.miami.edu/iiirm/

You will find RAW files for:

Cannonball Flower
Autumn Leaves
Cycad Cone
Ibis on Banks
Ibis on Banks2
Ibis on Flats
Lady mallards
Mallard
Raccoon

They are uploading now - so keep checking back to the link - they should all be there shortly...

=)
Sam

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Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
 
Samuel Pyrtle said:
You will find RAW files for:

Cannonball Flower
Autumn Leaves
Cycad Cone
Ibis on Banks
Ibis on Banks2
Ibis on Flats
Lady mallards
Mallard
Raccoon
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"Ibis on the Banks" is not on the site -we ran out of room.

"Ibis on the Banks 2" is on the site.

We will try to get 'Ibis on the Banks" on the next upload.

Get these while you can - we will leave them for about 4-5 days -

Thanks
Sam & Tony
=)

--
Sam Pyrtle
F707 Owner & Lover
Sigma SD9 Owner & Lover
[email protected]

http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=11179 (Sony Shots)
http://www.pbase.com/keysh2oboy/root (Sigma SD9 Shots)
 
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