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I have about a dozen Konica Autoreflex lenses from the 70's, which are fantastic lenses, that I am looking to find a digital camera to shoot with.

Do I understand correctly that if mounted on an adaptor, I am not setting the aperture on the lens, but turning a dial on the adaptor to guess what my aperture is?

If I do this, which seems to bother me a bit, will the camera meter suggest, or in AP mode, select a shutter speed and show me the suggested speed?

Is this any different if I were using an m4/3?

Thanks

Currently shooting a D200, D70 and N50. Have a 'F.'

Also shooting with Konica 35mm SLRS (T3 and FT-1) with numerous Hexanon Lenses. Printer: Canon i9900.
 
John Cerra2 said:
I have about a dozen Konica Autoreflex lenses from the 70's, which are fantastic lenses, that I am looking to find a digital camera to shoot with.
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Congrats, those are great lenses indeed.
John Cerra2 said:
Do I understand correctly that if mounted on an adaptor, I am not setting the aperture on the lens, but turning a dial on the adaptor to guess what my aperture is?
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Yes, the f-stop will be permanently engaged. The NEX will adjust the LCD brightness to compensate for lower light. You can also tell depth of field.
John Cerra2 said:
If I do this, which seems to bother me a bit, will the camera meter suggest, or in AP mode, select a shutter speed and show me the suggested speed?
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Yes, the NEX will tell you selected ISO and shutter speed in auto mode. If you control them manually, it will display the image based on your settings, and the f-stop you chose, including histogram, so you can adjust for highlight/lowlight clipping. It also has a manual focus view (button click with these lenses) showing a 7x or 14x magnification.
John Cerra2 said:
Is this any different if I were using an m4/3?
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No, only mirrorlenses can accept Konica AR lenses to my knowledge, but they all can. I assume that they all work in a similar fashion.
John Cerra2 said:
Thanks

Currently shooting a D200, D70 and N50. Have a 'F.'

Also shooting with Konica 35mm SLRS (T3 and FT-1) with numerous Hexanon Lenses. Printer: Canon i9900.
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Impressive, tell us your NEX experience
 
John Cerra2 said:
I have about a dozen Konica Autoreflex lenses from the 70's, which are fantastic lenses, that I am looking to find a digital camera to shoot with.

Do I understand correctly that if mounted on an adaptor, I am not setting the aperture on the lens, but turning a dial on the adaptor to guess what my aperture is?
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No, this is incorrect. You will select the aperture on your manual lens and your aperture will show up on the screen as "--". While shooting in aperture priority mode the camera is able to meter and adjust the shutter speed regardless of the aperture you have set on your lens. It works very well (IMHO).
John Cerra2 said:
If I do this, which seems to bother me a bit, will the camera meter suggest, or in AP mode, select a shutter speed and show me the suggested speed?
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Yes, it will display the shutter speed (and exposure compensation, if you've selected any).

I shoot my NEX-5 almost exclusively with my set of smc Pentax primes (30mm, 50mm, 120mm). Using manual lenses just has such a great feel to it. Especially on the NEX.
 
Olympus m4/3 cameras have IBIS that works great with old lenses. You can save 2-3 stops because of this.

I use and old Minolta MD 50mm F/1/4 lens and can use shutters speeds as low as 1/10th of a second.

Also, if you use aperture mode, you can use the built-in flash as a fill-in flash which really helps in many situations...even in sunlight (remove unwanted shadows and brighten faces). It works the same as any native lens, you just manually set the aperture on the lens.
John Cerra2 said:
John Cerra2 said:
Is this any different if I were using an m4/3?
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Everdog is correct, IBIS will give you (tested) around 2.5 stops of light (capable of stopping the shutter down) of either vertical or horizontal stabilization (not both)

The nex will only give you extra light through performing flawlessly to iso 1600, where the m43's only will realistically go up to about iso 400 without showing grain. While there's truth to the IBIS argument, it's also a common troll tactic used to scare people away from the nex (not really sure what is to be gained from this though other than fanboyism?)

here's a shot I did last night handheld at around 10PM at night in manual mode (check my flickr for exif data) @ iso 1600



another deviation between the two (more significant for some) is the nex has no EVF, so if you need an EVF to compose a shot, you may be more comfortable with an m43. If not, the nex's foldout LCD screen is quite good for composition and MF.

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-mark

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mark_mcd/
 
Everdog said:
Olympus m4/3 cameras have IBIS that works great with old lenses. You can save 2-3 stops because of this.
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Does this depend on lens focal length and manner the camera is held? I found I can get to fairly low shutter speeds with the Sony 16mm holding the camera at waist level. However, moving subjects in the picture can be blurry.
 
Mark_McD said:
Everdog is correct, IBIS will give you (tested) around 2.5 stops of light (capable of stopping the shutter down) of either vertical or horizontal stabilization (not both)

The nex will only give you extra light through performing flawlessly to iso 1600, where the m43's only will realistically go up to about iso 400 without showing grain.
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I have always read a 1 stop difference. There is no way it it 2.
Mark_McD said:
While there's truth to the IBIS argument, it's also a common troll tactic used to scare people away from the nex (not really sure what is to be gained from this though other than fanboyism?)
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Where did that come from? The NEX does not have IBIS and other cameras do. It is something people should consider because it a very useful/helpful feature.
Most Sony cameras come with it which is why I switched from Canon to Sony.

Seriously, it sound like fanboyism claim that comparing features is a "common troll tactic". LOL, just reading that claim makes me laugh. :)
Mark_McD said:
another deviation between the two (more significant for some) is the nex has no EVF, so if you need an EVF to compose a shot, you may be more comfortable with an m43. If not, the nex's foldout LCD screen is quite good for composition and MF.
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All true. The PENs with IBIS do not have a fold out LCD and the EVF costs extra.
 
Just Having Fun said:
Mark_McD said:
Everdog is correct, IBIS will give you (tested) around 2.5 stops of light (capable of stopping the shutter down) of either vertical or horizontal stabilization (not both)

The nex will only give you extra light through performing flawlessly to iso 1600, where the m43's only will realistically go up to about iso 400 without showing grain.
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I have always read a 1 stop difference. There is no way it it 2.
Just Having Fun said:
While there's truth to the IBIS argument, it's also a common troll tactic used to scare people away from the nex (not really sure what is to be gained from this though other than fanboyism?)
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Where did that come from? The NEX does not have IBIS and other cameras do. It is something people should consider because it a very useful/helpful feature.
Most Sony cameras come with it which is why I switched from Canon to Sony.

Seriously, it sound like fanboyism claim that comparing features is a "common troll tactic". LOL, just reading that claim makes me laugh. :)
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It's a moot point, as IBIS is used to shoot in lower light situations without suffering camera shake, just the same by comparison the high ISO performance of the nex accomplishes this by allowing you to use higher ISO speed without suffering image degradation. The purpose in mentioning it is to suggest that the nex lacks capability as a result of it, which it does not.

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-mark

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mark_mcd/
 
The biggest difference for me in choosing NEX for manual lenses was the crop factor. 1.5x of NEX is a little easier to deal with, especially at the wider end.
 
Yes, the quality at higher iSO's certainly can substitute for the lack of in body stabilization.

I have admit I thought stabilization is a gimmick, but it has save me numerous times on my D200.
Currently shooting a D200, D70 and N50. Have a 'F.'

Also shooting with Konica 35mm SLRS (T3 and FT-1) with numerous Hexanon Lenses. Printer: Canon i9900.
 
OK, I just ordered one.

Can't wait for the fun to begin.
Currently shooting a D200, D70 and N50. Have a 'F.'

Also shooting with Konica 35mm SLRS (T3 and FT-1) with numerous Hexanon Lenses. Printer: Canon i9900.
 
Concrats with your new camera! as an owner of the Nex5 and an A700 I can tell that the Nex5 is the most fun to use! The A700 is a great "serious"camera!
 
congrats! it's an excellent camera. first time grabbing one it felt very natural for me to use. once you update the firmware, it's even better too (with the customizable softkeys!)

I'll be interested in seeing your shots with it.

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-mark

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mark_mcd/
 
Congratulations!

The more you'll use this beast, the more you'll like it!

A truly capable camera.

Looking forward to your first shots!
 


Currently shooting a D200, D70 and N50. Have a 'F.'

Also shooting with Konica 35mm SLRS (T3 and FT-1) with numerous Hexanon Lenses. Printer: Canon i9900.
 
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