What if the D3s is Nikon's answer to the 5DM2?

Maybe he's talking about all of the people who don't own cameras and have no interest in photography. Who knows what they are waiting for.
Because so many more people are expecting 21 MP FF and 1080 HD video as the standard for $2,300? Does anyone have any idea how many Nikon people bought a 5DM2 because Nikon has nothing like it? Does anyone have any idea how many people are waiting for a Nikon 5DM2 spec and price and buying nothing until it shows? It has to be hundreds of thousands, if not millions.
Oh my god. Your hyperbole is lame. Because if you think hundreds of thousands or millions of people are waiting for any particular camera no matter how wonderful, you are insane.

--

-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida

I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
 
Sounds like you are on the wrong forum. This is on the verge of trolling for you.

Besides if what you say is true then that means that Nikon has already lost the entire pro market but strangely D3s are still difficult to find for many people.

All I can say is that video will never be the primary determining factor for me when purchasing a DSLR. I got the D3s in spite of the fact that it has video and not because of it. That long line of people waiting for D3s could have switched over to Canon a year ago if you are to be believed but they are still on waitlist for the D3s because you are comparing apples and oranges. Like I'm going sell ALL of my excellent Nikon glass and jump to Canon because they have better video? Yeah right I'm sure.
You're suggesting that Nikon's responded with a 12 mp, 720 p video, pro-grade build and performance, full size top-of-the-line body, to a 21 mp, 1080p video, "pro-sumer" grade Canon body?
They tried, they failed.
I don't know the first thing about video, so maybe I'm missing something, but I can't find any way to compare these two.
You are missing something, in the hands of pros, the 5DM2 is not only a pro camera it's the pro camera of choice of many pro photographers and is one of the greatest dslrs ever made. I've shot the D3, D700, D3X, D3s and 7D but primarily use the 5DM2 because of the large file size and the FF 1080 video. Nikon does not have a FF 1080 camera at any price, that makes the 5DM2 unique in the world and a top pro camera. To say imagined build and AF limitations and price make it prosumer is ridiculous and incorrect, sorry. To say it is the pro 35mm dslr of choice among major film and tv productions is correct and irrefutable.
 
Nailed it!
But what if the D3s was Nikon's answer to the 5DM2?
Then I'd say Nikon whipped Canon's butt. ;) Aside from video, the D3s is in a totally different (and much better) class as compared with the EOS 5D Mk II.
I just don't see how the next FF from Nikon can be win win, it's either going to be a compromised camera or way too expensive.
Compromised? Like the EOS 5D Mk II with its antiquated autofocus, slow frame rate, and unimpressive build quality?

Too expensive? Like the EOS 1DS Mk III?

Maybe we should be asking where Canon's answer is to the D3S. Where is Canon's FF dSLR that can shoot 14-Bit RAW images at 9 fps with no-excuses image quality all the way through ISO 6400?? You can do that with a 2007 model year Nikon D3. Things are tough all over, I guess. :)
 
ROFLMAO!
I have a buddy who's a wedding photographer, shooting with the 5D. Video is NOT IMPORTANT to him at all, and he hasn't upgraded to the MkII because, other than resolution, it doesn't have enough to make him want to trade up. He keeps asking me when the MkIII is due, and I tell him "I shoot Nikon. How the &$&^% would I know??"
--
  • Seth -
 
I purchased a D3s and have used the video on it at an event maybe twice. It is simply a gimmick and fun to play with occasionally.

Now it can be used for stealth recording since many don't know of this capability, otherwise it is a toy feature and a none factor when purchasing a pro DSLR. I would have purchased the D3s without it as well, it is not a deal maker or breaker for most people.
listen, Im not going to use the video function in my pro cam, but It is a useful feature, I use alot on my p&S and I sometimes just bring it and no vid cam, but think about this, u are at LAX you snap a picture of Kanye West he proceeds to attack you and destroy your equipment, he says he tripped and fell on your stuff, whats better evidence in court stills or a video? its like this dont bring a knife to a gunfight, next gen nikon pro cams all need vid and 20+ MP, all of you saying they dont are people who arent buying a new camera so they arent catering to you, you arent the adopters of new technology, but you shout and scream about how we already have too many MP, well thats nice for you dont by a new cameras therefore to the camera makers your opinions are irrelevant
 
Let us know when you post your Nikon gear here after you make the jump to Sony or Canon. And yes I can afford whatever it is that you have.
video is here to stay, if you dont have it or more MP as a company you are behind. as for consumer not pro cams being a priority I feel the pro cams are a halo product that drives sales of the rest of the line, Im hoping for a 24 mp D800 with video and I will replace my D3 then..unless I can get a new D3x for $5500 (what its really worth) if Nikon doesn't get on the ball Sony or Canon will surpass them... I dont "need" more MP but I "Want" more MP and video, thats what drives camera sales
 
4 posts left and this will end. For now.

--

-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida

I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
 
Does anyone have any idea how many Nikon people bought a 5DM2 because Nikon has nothing like it?
Does anyone have any idea how many Canon people bought a D700 because Canon has nothing like it?
 
4 posts left and this will end. For now.

--

-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida

I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
--
-------------------

Best
Shaun
http://shaun.zenfolio.com/
 
It's not about toys for me, or even JUST having the tech, it's often a matter of putting food on the table, and lately, even having a table. I managed okay because my competition is MF people but lately, budgets and desires have given rise to 35mm with FF, high MP and 1080 video use. Yes, it's tough out there in this industry right now.
Still you should probably be glad that there seem to be many people like Diderot who "like to buy new cameras and spend money" - The many enthusiasts who buy "pro" cameras mean that the prices are probably much lower than they would be if they were bought only by professional photographers.
 
Does anyone have any idea how many Nikon people bought a 5DM2 because Nikon has nothing like it?
Does anyone have any idea how many Canon people bought a D700 because Canon has nothing like it?
The camera companies don't tell us exact numbers. Probably on purpose. Polling this place is not very reliable, since we don't have access to most of the camera using world. But it does seem that the D700 was a very big succes as far as that type of camera goes.

I would say it was about 5 to 3% of Nikon's sales and the D300S was another 3 to 5%. Which probably suprized Nikon. Whereas the "lower cameras" like the D5000 and such were about 90 to 93% of all DSLR sales. The D3S and D3X are about 1 to 2% of total sales figures.

The Coolpix models far outsell the DSLR lines in numbers, but probably not in money made. The lens sales are a profit center for Nikon, which is why it puzzles me that they don't make sure they have enough lens production to keep the pipeline going in that area. They should have a catalog equal to if not better than the ones during the glory days of Nikon supremecy.

Same goes for Canon. The 1D series sales numbers are tiny in the total sales figures. The vast majority of sales is the Rebel line and camera like the 60D somewhat less. The 5D cameras are about the same as the D700 percentage-wise, maybe a little more.

Of course, if you read here a lot, you would think the most important camera in the world is the pro line of cameras. Kind of like going to a darg racing track and asking about car sales in general. You won't get a real answer that makes sense from us either.

Since this is the last post, maybe you could start a new thread if you have more questions.

--

-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida

I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
 

Keyboard shortcuts

Back
Top