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What if the D3s is Nikon's answer to the 5DM2?
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I think there is a very good chance that before the summer is over, there will be replacements for the D700 and D300. You know that I we know that.
I think it is fair to say that these cameras will certainly have HD 1080 and in the case of the D700 replacement, be FF. Your wishes will be granted !
As the D700 is a couple of years old and is to be replaced so soon, your rantings in this thread will then seem a bit silly, won't they?
Agreed, for stills and high iso if you need only 12 MP.
I know.
Wait till someone does raw.
I'm hoping it's Nikon.
I imagine you use primes for 5D2 landscapes, maybe Nikon lenses? But do you see any CA or color fringing with the 5D2 and canon lenses? I do and I would guess it's the 21 MP size.
I have strong opinions and radical views that often prove out, like my prediction that Nikon would release no FF in 2010.
I think the assumption here is, if you don't follow the good old boy line, then your opinions are an attack on the good old boy status quo. ie: the D700/D3s is the best camera in the world (because dslr video doesn't matter).
No, but cars drive me nuts, way way overpriced, way too much plastic and not an honest dealer among them. Of course I'm talking about cars under 50k.
I don't know that I know that, it's not what I'm predicting. A D700 replacement getting 1080 video and what, 12 MP again, that's weird and not likely. How can a so called D800 come out with superior video to the D3s and likely superior MP and be half the price? Impossible. Likewise, how can a D800 come out with 1080 video and only 12 MP? Impossible, and dumb. You are being influenced by the D7000 because it has 1080, it's not a portent for anything, it's not FF. Nikon is in a pickle.
It has to have high MP too, and be moderately priced, that camera is not coming this year, no way. A D700s is more likely, and D3X with 1080 video is more likely but that will cost 8 or 9k and will not be this summer.
I hope you are right, but you're not.
This is just nonsense !
The D7000 replaced the D90, and in doing so offered more MP and HD 1080 than the D300s that supposedly was above it !!
Why should'nt there be a similar upgrade for FF?
According to your logic, the D7000 would not exist. You are making no sense at all. Calm down, stop embarrassing yourself..
So please explain how Nikon goes from first D3 (very expensive) to D700 (exact same FF IQ but much cheaper) to D3s (adds 720 video slight tweak up in iso and very expensive) to D800 FF (far superior AF 1080 video, superior high MP, equal iso IQ to D3s and half the price). You can't, not gonna happen.This is just nonsense !
The D7000 replaced the D90, and in doing so offered more MP and HD 1080 than the D300s that supposedly was above it !!
Why should'nt there be a similar upgrade for FF?
According to your logic, the D7000 would not exist. You are making no sense at all. Calm down, stop embarrassing yourself..
I think you answered your own question.
Nikon launched the D700 offering D3 IQ at half the price.
They launched the D7000, replacing the D90 but also offering better IQ and HD over the D300- a model range above.
They will do the same with D800.
D4 will create space above D800.
It's not hard to imagine.
So just stop it. Stop it now. Calm down. Take a Valium or something.
Nikon launched the D700 offering D3 IQ at half the price.
They launched the D7000, replacing the D90 but also offering better IQ and HD over the D300- a model range above.
They will do the same with D800.
D4 will create space above D800.
It's not hard to imagine.
So just stop it. Stop it now. Calm down. Take a Valium or something.
Okay, I'll buy that.I think you answered your own question.
Nikon launched the D700 offering D3 IQ at half the price.
They launched the D7000, replacing the D90 but also offering better IQ and HD over the D300- a model range above.
They will do the same with D800.
D4 will create space above D800.
It's not hard to imagine.
So just stop it. Stop it now. Calm down. Take a Valium or something.
But something tells me, after this long a wait, something unexpected is coming, like...
The shock of the D3X price, like...
the fact that a whole year went by with no new FF from Nikon, like...
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Luke Kaven
Veteran Member
The D7000 gives evidence that the current sensor technology will support it.
It's not very hard to do 1080 video -- all you need is a 14MP or greater sensor. The 12MP sensor was not enough to produce a full HD through deciimation.
I'm pretty sure Nikon is not going to bet another generation of cameras on 12MP sensors. I'd stake anything on every new camera doing 1080 HD. Remember, the D3s sensor is a Nikon sensor. They have the technology to come up with FF sensors that aren't already available through Sony, and with some tricks built-in too.
ne beginner
Senior Member
... You've been trying to make this point on more than few threads now, and it does sound like video is so important to you that you minimize other features, features much more aligned with what a still camera primarily does. The only way you can compare, let alone argue that a 5D superior to a D700, or even belongs on the same page as any version of the D3, is to place video as a more essential feature than AF, overall performance, and even build.
You're kind of like a snow boarder 30 years ago, criticizing the worlds most prestigious ski slopes solely based on how they are groomed for snow boarding. Maybe you're a visionary.
But the world of still photography, as it sits today, things like AF, performance, and build, are more important to the vast majority of people using DSLR's than video.
bikinchris
Forum Pro
I told you a long time back that I hope you get the camera you want. And of course, you will, just not on the timetable you want. But you will probably find out soon. In fact in about 2 weeks you will have an announcement, if what I hear is correct.
But you keep telling us that we are wrong to like what does the job for us.
-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida
I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
But you keep telling us that we are wrong to like what does the job for us.
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-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida
I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
bikinchris
Forum Pro
You both know that the D3S has nothing to do with the 5D MKII. In fact the D3 and D3S are what is saving the world for Nikon in the pro ranks as well as allowing longtime Nikon photographers to come back to Nikon, which was something that wasn't happening before.
-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida
I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
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-> > "Oh, and since we're on the subject of advice, you may want to be a little leery of some of the advice you see on this, or any other, message board. If someone is giving you advice ......make a determination about how much weight you'll give that advice. You may find that sometimes there are 'serial-posters' on the internet that should read more and type less."
-Brian Blanco, Sarasota Florida
I include myself in that quote
Chris, Broussard, LA
SethG
Senior Member
The best guesses from the Nikon pundits (e.g., Thom H) is that the next-gen prosumer cameras from Nikon will have higher res than 12mp. Probably 16-18. Maybe more.
Nikon's been pretty consistent with their release schedule, and they're not "waiting to see" what Canon will do. If Canon came out with a super-killer-awesome game-changing camera, it would take Nikon a year or two to respond, unless they had something in the pipeline already. The reverse is also true.
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Nikon's been pretty consistent with their release schedule, and they're not "waiting to see" what Canon will do. If Canon came out with a super-killer-awesome game-changing camera, it would take Nikon a year or two to respond, unless they had something in the pipeline already. The reverse is also true.
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ssmumich00
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seriously. . .So just stop it. Stop it now. Calm down. Take a Valium or something.
No I didnt but good catch
That's good advice.It also contains what could be the one and only photo. I really think this is what the 'ignore' button is all about unless one really likes this type of thread
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Thierry
I don't agree, especially right now. The majority want and indeed expect, high MP, high iso, 1080 video, FF and moderate price. It is also true that Nikon is very late to that game and may never catch up, especially in regards to price. You are all dreaming if you think a Nikon FF with high MP 1080 HD and high iso is coming at a D700 or even a D3s price, this is a pipe dream, a Nikon like that will be in the stratosphere regarding price. Get real. Mark my word. An 18, 21 or 24 MP FF Nikon with 1080 video cannot be priced less than the D3s, impossible.
Try staying on topic and stop stalking, how's that for advice.No I didnt but good catch
That's good advice.It also contains what could be the one and only photo. I really think this is what the 'ignore' button is all about unless one really likes this type of thread
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Thierry
Not true, I'm saying that you think my desire for a 5DM2 spec and price is somehow denigrating the D700/D3s and you are wrong if you think that. Nikon FF is leaving 12 MP behind, that's a reality. When remains to be seen, so does price. The D3s is the best high iso 12 MP camera in the world, it is not higher res or a larger file size than the 5DM2 and it's video is smaller size too. These are facts.
PK24X36NOW
Senior Member
Then I'd say Nikon whipped Canon's butt.
Aside from video, the D3s is in a totally different (and much better) class as compared with the EOS 5D Mk II.Compromised? Like the EOS 5D Mk II with its antiquated autofocus, slow frame rate, and unimpressive build quality?
Too expensive? Like the EOS 1DS Mk III?
Maybe we should be asking where Canon's answer is to the D3S. Where is Canon's FF dSLR that can shoot 14-Bit RAW images at 9 fps with no-excuses image quality all the way through ISO 6400?? You can do that with a 2007 model year Nikon D3. Things are tough all over, I guess.
Try not posting flame posts and people won't find any in your history. How's that for advice.Try staying on topic and stop stalking, how's that for advice.No I didnt but good catch
That's good advice.It also contains what could be the one and only photo. I really think this is what the 'ignore' button is all about unless one really likes this type of thread
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Thierry
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