★ Wed C&C (No Theme) Thread, Ed. 145, Jan/19/2011 ★

cnb · Jan 19, 2011

Hm, I can't really make much of this, sorry.

There's the "symmetry" between female statue and young woman visitor, but the girl is just barely in the frame, making this point a bit hard to see.

My biggest nit though is that ceiling light that clashes with the classic statue and marble of the museum and the overall warm tones of the shot. There's not much you could've done about that, except maybe shoot at f2 to try and blur it. But I suspect this was a grab shot at smaller aperture to keep everything in focus.

Cheers
Christa
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cnb · Jan 19, 2011

UncleLJ said:
an old movie, set in Victorian England. I am waiting for Jack the Ripper or Sherlock Holmes to appear out of the shadows.

Nice comment ;-)

What doesn't quite make the image work for me is that upside-down bench with some cables (?) in the foreground. It's a shame, because the rest is really nice: good b&w tones, nice textures, and that bit of shine in the cobbles fading away in a gentle curve.

Cheers
Christa

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cnb · Jan 19, 2011

BjornBudd said:
I hate to be blunt as this a personal opinion:

such a big copyright signature kills the shot for me. As good as it is.

At this websizes who is going to steal images and for what?

I'm afraid I have to agree with Joao here: I was thinking "ooh, nice colours and DOF and composition" - and then my eye was hit by the watermark. I know there's a reason for watermarks, but it's hard not to be distracted by one when it's big and placed in a prominent place in an image you're trying to c&c...

Cheers
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cnb · Jan 19, 2011

It works for me: the symmetrical composition is "softened" by the diagonal shadows, and the warm tones are not what you'd typically expect from a snow shot. I'm trying to figure out if it's ever so slightly tilted to the right, but it may just be an illusion.

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LouHolland · Jan 19, 2011

Hi,

I think that this image is one of the best I've seen from you. But it can shine more by a bit of colour treathment and a bit of contrast, that last will help the light very much. The blue is a bit flat and to much pastel against the other colours. But there is an other idea that came to my mind... convert it to B&W and change the format to 2:3", it seems the perfect image for that.

So I made an example, which will be removed within 5 day's, tell me your impression and made one yourself p.e.

Lou

two benches

Mr.NoFlash said:

cnb · Jan 19, 2011

Hehe, nice find!

I can't find much more to say, except that a polarizer would take care of those reflections. I could see this looking really good in a series on fleamarkets. Do you have any more?

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cnb · Jan 19, 2011

Lou, of the three I actually prefer the first. I like how the branch does not cut the image in a perfect diagonal from corner to corner: this way, the eye stays in the frame and admires the blooms.

Your "Japanese print" is good (and I'm awed at the PP!), but I think it'd be really good without those horizontal black bars of the fence in the background.

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Mr.NoFlash · Jan 19, 2011

thanks, I just looked 15 minutes at the 2 photos

LouHolland said:
But it can shine more by a bit of colour treathment and a bit of contrast,

Yes, especially more contrast. this was an unprocessed photo.

LouHolland said:
that last will help the light very much. The blue is a bit flat and to much pastel against the other colours.

But there is an other idea that came to my mind... convert it to B&W and change the format to 2:3", it seems the perfect image for that

I think the black/dark areas in your version is a bit to black, but thanks for the idea

LouHolland said:
So I made an example, which will be removed within 5 day's,

you can keep it forever if you want

LouHolland · Jan 19, 2011

Mr.NoFlash said:
LouHolland said:

But it can shine more by a bit of colour treathment and a bit of contrast,

Click to expand...

Yes, especially more contrast. this was an unprocessed photo.

Mr.NoFlash said:

that last will help the light very much. The blue is a bit flat and to much pastel against the other colours.

But there is an other idea that came to my mind... convert it to B&W and change the format to 2:3", it seems the perfect image for that

Click to expand...

I think the black/dark areas in your version is a bit to black, but thanks for the idea

Yes that's what it is, not a better, just an other idea. That's what this thread is for, thanks for giving it a thought.

Mr.NoFlash said:
Mr.NoFlash said:

So I made an example, which will be removed within 5 day's,

Click to expand...

you can keep it forever if you want

No, it will be removed as promised. Thanks for the offer.

Lou

UncleLJ · Jan 19, 2011

Individually, I like all three. I am not just saying that.. as I looked at them I thought they were all unique, and represented very different thoughts.

In the end, I do like the Japanese print the best, I find the dark lines striking against the soft white flowers.
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UncleLJ · Jan 19, 2011

Lou and Christa.

Lou, as you noticed in my other posting, it was rather difficult to get away from the blown highlights, but managed it on this one. The curse of around here, either dull and flat (the majority of the winter) or full blown sun on bright white snow...AARRGG!

Christa, yes, I know its centered, and the pics that weren't, just lacked something. I think there is just enough stuff in the picture to make it work. As for the "tilting to the right", it's a bit of an illusion, the ground slopes down, off to the right.

BTW, I hiked about 100 feet, in the snow, wearing my snowshoes, to find that spot, then climbed over an embankment, to get up to the little clearing. Was sinking to my knees, even with the snowshoes.
Again, Thanks to both of you for your comments.
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LouHolland · Jan 19, 2011

The floor is shared and the ceiling is splitting the coming and the going and behind his bonzai a silverback is thinking how difficult this kind of existing will be in the forest and it's true, he is looking at the apes who ruins his planet as well and only because we're thinking that we can make the difference.

This image don't need criticism, it is criticism. Created by ourselfs, but we refuse to listen because that's seems to difficult for us, we find it just convenient to deal with our short term memory. Well we are very near to the border of 9 billion people, behind that there is no food anymore to feed everyone and as we are exponential it's just number work to meet our future global problems.

Just a tought.

Good shot
Lou

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Claus A said:
Great Apes

(an old snap at the station, with my Olympus C 8080 WZ)

Thanks for looking & commenting,

Regards,

Claus.

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Zindanfel · Jan 19, 2011

cnb said:
I'm not quite sure the severe central divider works here.

While it does not work perfectly here, still the idea is interesting; it is a challenge to the viewer: "Dare you venture further?" (into the frame).

In this photo, the back distance does not deliver on the risk a viewer takes to investigate, because that area is overly intricate and ambiguous. However, you could work this device to fashion compelling images in future.

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Timskis6 · Jan 19, 2011

fiorano2 said:
Great image, I like the wide angle and strong lines.

The only suggestion I would have is to have a higher shooting point so that you look down on it a little more. And possibly to have the natural line starting left and ending right for example.

Thanks Fiorano - in this image, what would you consider the natural line? I'm unfamiliar with that term.

Cheers,
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Zindanfel · Jan 19, 2011

cnb said:
...a polarizer would take care of those reflections. I could see this looking really good in a series on fleamarkets.

Thank you. I hadn't thought of putting a polarizer on my F40; I'm such a snap-shooter; my tendency is to react to "shots" I see, rather than plan/organize them.

cnb said:
Do you have any more?

Yeah, I often shoot in thrift shops, and post pics occasionally. Here are a few recent:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=37278490

Zin

sadwitch · Jan 19, 2011

Its nice and tranquil but I'm not too fond of the dustbin there but i know thats unavoidable. Also the blurred stalk of grass could be cloned out.

I was thinking olympus pale and light art filter may be good for this pic.

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sadwitch · Jan 19, 2011

Thanks for all the suggestions. I do agree the colours are a tad overpowering and the WB is tricky as the whole place was lighted by yellow tungsten lights hence the very warm look.

If i were to use tungsten WB there'll be some place that will look too bluish.

If view of that i think maybe a BW conversion may be a little better to avoid the WB issues

My shutter speed was rather low too to stop movement in the person. But may also be due to my handshake as i'm shooting EFL 90mm at 1/40s. How i wish there were IS in E330.

Once again thanks for looking and appreciate the comments

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sadwitch · Jan 19, 2011

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sadwitch · Jan 19, 2011

I like the treatment... but just like christa mention, i feel the blurred stick is kind of taking up too much space in the front. Maybe a heavy vignette might soften the OOF object.
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sadwitch · Jan 19, 2011

Don't think i fancy the PP. The first image is still the nicest. An i think it'll be even better in the blurred flowers in the front are cropped out.
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