3020 or 4000

CliffL · Nov 8, 2002

Yep,

Looking at BuyDig as well. I am still goin to have some fun tomorrow and see what the local guys can do on price. If I can get out the door with the camera plus a charger and extra 128 card for $500, then I will probably go for it. I don't mind paying a little bit of a premium to buy locally, but of course I don't want to get fleeced either.

If that doesn't pan out, then I will probably buy the camera from BuyDig, and extras from . . .

Thanks again,

Cliff

Mike Lewis · Nov 9, 2002

With a 128Mb SM card and it at Normal at 4MP how many pictures will it hold on 1 card?

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Kolja Tatic · Nov 9, 2002

on the C-4000Z LCD info:
tif - 11
jpg - SHQ - 48
jpg - HQ - 130

Mike Lewis said:
With a 128Mb SM card and it at Normal at 4MP how many pictures will
it hold on 1 card?

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Lucy · Nov 9, 2002

If you'd like to see what my C3020Z can do...check out my gallery. I'm very pleased with mine. Also, I have had great success buying online by checking out prices and then also checking out the sellers at http://www.resellerratings.com Good luck!

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Helen · Nov 9, 2002

David said:
someone else? nobody here know the differences between 3020 and 4000?

Here are a few differences "off the top of my head". These cameras look very similar, but:

The one thing the 3020 has which the 4000 hasn't is the topplate LCD for displaying some settings with the monitor off.

Otherwise, the 4000 has:

The extra megapixel of resolution
The external flash socket

Super macro mode (get to 2cm instead of normal macro's 20cm, but remember you stay at full wideangle and have no internal flash in this special mode). Normal macro is still the unchanged, full spec type of the 3020.

Better (in my opinion) LCD monitor - marginally lower resolution at 114,000 pixels versus 123,000 pixels on the C3020, but the 114,000 unit has a better, less reflective cover and most importantly can be used at all sorts of viewing angles, whereas if you don't look at the 3020's from exactly the right viewpoint, it blacks or whites out alarmingly.
4000 has histograms in taking and playback settings - none on 3020.

4000 has pixel mapping to map out stuck pixels rather than having to send the camera to Olympus for this.
4000 has a colour saturation control.

4000 has 4 "My Mode" settings versus 1 on the 3020 (the setting whereby you can have all your favourite setup preloaded).
4000 has startup pictures (hardly useful, just amusing).
4000 has "virtual dial" operation which is new. Reviewers seem to like that.
4000 has a 1/1000 top shutter speed versus 1/800.

There's probably a few more and I hope I didn't imagine any of the above - I don't think so! I have briefly owned a 3020 and am thinking seriously about getting a 4000. Hope that helps.

Helen

DavidU · Nov 9, 2002

Hello Helen,

wow thanks a lot for this! So choice is sure... c4000... but I dont understand why Olympus removed this top-side monochrom. lcd... its very useful I think.

Thanks,
David

Helen said:
David said:

someone else? nobody here know the differences between 3020 and 4000?

Click to expand...

Here are a few differences "off the top of my head". These cameras
look very similar, but:

The one thing the 3020 has which the 4000 hasn't is the topplate
LCD for displaying some settings with the monitor off.

Otherwise, the 4000 has:

The extra megapixel of resolution
The external flash socket
Super macro mode (get to 2cm instead of normal macro's 20cm, but
remember you stay at full wideangle and have no internal flash in
this special mode). Normal macro is still the unchanged, full spec
type of the 3020.
Better (in my opinion) LCD monitor - marginally lower resolution at
114,000 pixels versus 123,000 pixels on the C3020, but the 114,000
unit has a better, less reflective cover and most importantly can
be used at all sorts of viewing angles, whereas if you don't look
at the 3020's from exactly the right viewpoint, it blacks or whites
out alarmingly.
4000 has histograms in taking and playback settings - none on 3020.
4000 has pixel mapping to map out stuck pixels rather than having
to send the camera to Olympus for this.
4000 has a colour saturation control.
4000 has 4 "My Mode" settings versus 1 on the 3020 (the setting
whereby you can have all your favourite setup preloaded).
4000 has startup pictures (hardly useful, just amusing).
4000 has "virtual dial" operation which is new. Reviewers seem to
like that.
4000 has a 1/1000 top shutter speed versus 1/800.

There's probably a few more and I hope I didn't imagine any of the
above - I don't think so! I have briefly owned a 3020 and am
thinking seriously about getting a 4000. Hope that helps.

Helen

fenlander · Nov 9, 2002

On my C4000, these readings are always wrong! The Oly seems to make a very conservative estimate of the capacity of a blank card and revise it upward as pictures are taken.

I use 64Mb cards in SHQ. With a blank card, the camera always tells me I have 24 shots. I almost never get less than 35. As a rule of thumb I reckon a 64Mb card = a 35mm film, in terms of capacity.

fenlander

Kolja Tatic said:
on the C-4000Z LCD info:
tif - 11
jpg - SHQ - 48
jpg - HQ - 130

Juli Valley · Nov 9, 2002

Be sure to get a model that has an external plugin for a flash. The Cxx40s have it. The Cx000 may have it. Double check the Olympus site.

Juli Valley · Nov 9, 2002

Be sure if you order online, that you check out the reliability of the seller at
http://www.resellerratings.com/ The lowest price may not be a reputable store.

Juli Valley · Nov 9, 2002

Buydig is a reputable firm. I have bought from them. Check out the other site at http://www.resellerratings.com/

John Angelos · Nov 9, 2002

These numbers in the previous thread are what the LCD displays .. but in reality I get 75 pictures in SHQ all the time!

Kolja Tatic said:
Mike Lewis said:

With a 128Mb SM card and it at Normal at 4MP how many pictures will
it hold on 1 card?

--
Mike L.

http://www.pbase.com/ferrari355/galleries

Click to expand...

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C-2020, C-4000, Titanium Digital Optics 2x Telephoto, NiMH+1900, Dazzle USB Film Reader, AMD XP 2700+

CliffL · Nov 9, 2002

Thanks Juli, I am sure they are reputable. However, I could not wait and whent and did it! A trip to Best Buy, they had it in stock; and yes they did throw in an extra charger w/batteries ($40).

I am taking some test pictures as we speak. I am somewhat of a novice when it comes to photography, and a newby in digital. I can see a learning curve here, but everything looks ok . . . so far.

Cliff

Lucy · Nov 10, 2002

...Now the fun (and learning) begins....you will love it!
--
Lucy
Olympus C3020Z
pbase supporter http://www.pbase.com/lucy

DavidU · Nov 10, 2002

So, tomorrow will be my day

I'm going for c4000... hope I won't be wrong as with my last cam Sony P1...

Thank you all for help!

David

Helen said:
David said:

someone else? nobody here know the differences between 3020 and 4000?

Click to expand...

Here are a few differences "off the top of my head". These cameras
look very similar, but:

The one thing the 3020 has which the 4000 hasn't is the topplate
LCD for displaying some settings with the monitor off.

Otherwise, the 4000 has:

The extra megapixel of resolution
The external flash socket
Super macro mode (get to 2cm instead of normal macro's 20cm, but
remember you stay at full wideangle and have no internal flash in
this special mode). Normal macro is still the unchanged, full spec
type of the 3020.
Better (in my opinion) LCD monitor - marginally lower resolution at
114,000 pixels versus 123,000 pixels on the C3020, but the 114,000
unit has a better, less reflective cover and most importantly can
be used at all sorts of viewing angles, whereas if you don't look
at the 3020's from exactly the right viewpoint, it blacks or whites
out alarmingly.
4000 has histograms in taking and playback settings - none on 3020.
4000 has pixel mapping to map out stuck pixels rather than having
to send the camera to Olympus for this.
4000 has a colour saturation control.
4000 has 4 "My Mode" settings versus 1 on the 3020 (the setting
whereby you can have all your favourite setup preloaded).
4000 has startup pictures (hardly useful, just amusing).
4000 has "virtual dial" operation which is new. Reviewers seem to
like that.
4000 has a 1/1000 top shutter speed versus 1/800.

There's probably a few more and I hope I didn't imagine any of the
above - I don't think so! I have briefly owned a 3020 and am
thinking seriously about getting a 4000. Hope that helps.

Helen

CliffL · Nov 10, 2002

Thanks Lucy,

Even out of the box the C4000 is performing well. The white balance is surprisingly good, especially indoors with low light. . . impressive AF lock with no AF assist!

Most of my test shots have been indoors, low light, all settings to "auto." All I can say is this camera is surprising me more and more. The one thing I did find however, is that if I increase the "red" on the white balance, colors come out a little more natural. For example, on "auto" white balance my daughters purple sweater comes out blue. However I can easily fix this by setting WB a couple notches to the red.

Outdoor shots through the trees produces no purple fringing whatsoever. Awesome!

Anywhoo, if I can figure out how to post on pbase, I will send some of my shots. They are not great, but they do hint towards the capability of this cam.

Thanks again,
Cliff

DavidU · Nov 11, 2002

So now is c4000 in my hands

) so I'm testing it out...few first pics looing coool

David

David said:
Thank you all for help!

David

Helen said:

David said:

someone else? nobody here know the differences between 3020 and 4000?

Click to expand...

Here are a few differences "off the top of my head". These cameras
look very similar, but:

The one thing the 3020 has which the 4000 hasn't is the topplate
LCD for displaying some settings with the monitor off.

Otherwise, the 4000 has:

The extra megapixel of resolution
The external flash socket
Super macro mode (get to 2cm instead of normal macro's 20cm, but
remember you stay at full wideangle and have no internal flash in
this special mode). Normal macro is still the unchanged, full spec
type of the 3020.
Better (in my opinion) LCD monitor - marginally lower resolution at
114,000 pixels versus 123,000 pixels on the C3020, but the 114,000
unit has a better, less reflective cover and most importantly can
be used at all sorts of viewing angles, whereas if you don't look
at the 3020's from exactly the right viewpoint, it blacks or whites
out alarmingly.
4000 has histograms in taking and playback settings - none on 3020.
4000 has pixel mapping to map out stuck pixels rather than having
to send the camera to Olympus for this.
4000 has a colour saturation control.
4000 has 4 "My Mode" settings versus 1 on the 3020 (the setting
whereby you can have all your favourite setup preloaded).
4000 has startup pictures (hardly useful, just amusing).
4000 has "virtual dial" operation which is new. Reviewers seem to
like that.
4000 has a 1/1000 top shutter speed versus 1/800.

There's probably a few more and I hope I didn't imagine any of the
above - I don't think so! I have briefly owned a 3020 and am
thinking seriously about getting a 4000. Hope that helps.

Helen

Click to expand...

DavidU · Nov 11, 2002

To people who have c4000 or so... why I cant find some settings to have always ON battery indicator on LCD? Its there only for second or so

I have "INFO" set to ON but seems like it not affecting it.

Thanks for help!

David

David said:
Hello guys,
please should somebody experienced here help me with choosing
between 3020 and 4000? These cameras seems to be identical so my
question is simple... when I dont need 4MP resolution are there
some new or enhanced things on 4000? Or its only +1MP?

And also how perform these cams in sport and nigth shooting?

Thanks!
David

CliffL · Nov 11, 2002

DavidU · Nov 12, 2002

hello c4000 users

)) help us please...

Kolja Tatic · Nov 12, 2002

David,

I saw this also, but I can't change it... C-4000 haven't this feature...
What is your first impression?

Regards,
Kolja

David said:
To people who have c4000 or so... why I cant find some settings to
have always ON battery indicator on LCD? Its there only for second
or so

I have "INFO" set to ON but seems like it not affecting it.

Thanks for help!

David

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