No kidding...the D3100 is so good, that the D700 might be due for

photonerdcom said:

Thats awesome, the next time I need to take down a power ranger bad guy, I'll call you up to bring your d700 with super powers and you can save the day.
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I'm afraid I am too much of a professional to call you a douche as someone else here mentioned, but no one said the D700 had super powers, just that it is a much more powerful tool than the 3100. Apples and oranges...

Can we let it die now? The 3100 is very good yes, but no where near the D700 in terms of performance across the board. Amen.

...that made some people think you were saying it could replace the D700.

I have both as well, and love my D3100. I slapped a Tamron 18-270mm on it (after returning the Nikon 18-200 I purchased first) and that lens lives on the camera. I take it almost everywhere I go (just in case...) It will never replace my D700 but makes a great, light, decent quality camera.
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people on this forum are arrogant as fuçk, just read half the post from the first to this one and you cant possibly tell me that... its so annoying.. but anyways..

im pretty sure the OP was just being sarcastic (silly, over exaggerating, joking) with his statement, because in case you didnt know, technology moves forward at a very rapid pace, and id LOVE for you to prove me wrong if you disagree, if you do agree, then just stfu, bc within this year i bet the aps-c cameras will be replacing the quality of the D700. you people take things way to seriously.. sheesh.

Chromobotia Macracanthus said:

And the 3100 is good. But if you read back your thread and all your replies this is not what you are implying. You are almost saying it's so close to the D700 that the D700 better watch out, which is nonsense!

No one is being a douche on here I am afraid; the cameras are in different leagues, and yes the 3100 is not bad!

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I wasn't calling the OP a douche.. i was calling everyone that gets offended and immediately rags on him for sharing something he liked (his new camera) and thought was insightful (that his new camera beats out his old D200, and that the quality of even the entry level ones is coming along so fast that soon the D700 will have a run for its money...)

professional or not "macracanthus", your on an internet forum, lol, and i do not care who i insult on the interwebs, id even insult your mama.

D700 is a more powerful tool, OP never said it wasnt. dumb åss people i swear.

Chromobotia Macracanthus said:

photonerdcom said:

Thats awesome, the next time I need to take down a power ranger bad guy, I'll call you up to bring your d700 with super powers and you can save the day.
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I'm afraid I am too much of a professional to call you a douche as someone else here mentioned, but no one said the D700 had super powers, just that it is a much more powerful tool than the 3100. Apples and oranges...

Can we let it die now? The 3100 is very good yes, but no where near the D700 in terms of performance across the board. Amen.

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No it also depends on exposure time.
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Wrong.

But it depends on total exposure (aperture and exposure time), as explained in the part of my post which you cut off

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Wrong yourself.

Aperture wont influence noise. Exposure time will.

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No, there is a specific context, ie.e long exposure time, where exposure impacts a specific form of noise on its own regardless of other factors. This is irrelevant for most photography and certainly for the context of the picture shown. And even then total exposure matters.

But I have to correct my previous post. In the context of this thread, that of a pic taken with flash with negligible contribution from other light source only aperture and the flash power matters. Exposure time is irrelevant as long as it is longer than 1/250 sec i.e. not forcing the flash in FP mode.

For general photography and 99% of situations encountered signal over noise comes is dictated by total exposure, hence the concept of "exposing to the right".

Don't hesitate to ask question if you don't know what any of the above means or do not understand why it is as explained above.

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Wow, sounds a little harsh there Nike-a-nanny. People would rather have their 70-200's stored somewhere in a body cavity you say. Oh how awful that sounds. You didn't just pick up one of these D700 killers btw, did ya?

I suppose one could use one of these 70-200's in low light couldn't they? With the VR gizmo allowing handholding in less than ideal light? It's not just for soccer games down at the local gym where half of the lamps are blown is it?

Besides, you wouldn't have to carry one of these around everywhere! Oh what a revelation!



Oops, forgot about the AWB again! Sorry about the poor quality, I'm stuck with one of the bargain brand lenses for the time being, none of that VR or point and shoot gold here.

Heck, all cameras should be able to do a quality ISO3200 by this time next year some are predicting. And with plenty of pixels to spare let's hope! Oh man, I can't wait!

Nikonan said:

dont even bother to explain yourself bro, half the people on these forums are douche bags that well never get any point from anything, and would rather have a 70-200 shoved up their ass than make a nice comment about someones post.

I for one whole heartedly agree with you, great little camera all the way. people dont know wtf slow flash is apparently. and you actually would see the noise, especially in the background, but it dont even matter, point is to get a correctly exposed photograph in the first place, that shows the true flaws if any, imo.

photonerdcom said:

Look, I'm not throwing away my D700 or nice lenses.

The D3100 was purchased to be a point and shoot - and it's light. I don't like "real" point and shoots, because they all suck! I'll take a cheap dslr anyday over that.

All I was saying, is that for being cheap...it's pretty darn good.

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What about that viewfinder bro?

Or you will all end up with Canons . hehehehe.
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gwynngee said:

Or you will all end up with Canons . hehehehe.
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Heck, a year from now brand won't even matter! It'll simply be a matter of which one has the best rebate going on their 18oz 24-200/2.8 VR!