Would it be possible for other companies to make e-mount lenses? The Sony 18-200 mm is just too expensive, so I would hope for cheaper third party lenses. Is that a vain hope? I know you can buy adaptors etc, but my wish would be for a lens with working AF and IS, that is, e-mount.
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E-mount lenses from other companies?
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UnOmE-nEx5
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Probably won't see that happen for awhile if ever.
BTW anyone know when Sony is supposed to release new lenses?
BTW anyone know when Sony is supposed to release new lenses?
draganflyer
Senior Member
possible? yes. Likely? no.
Regardless of whether someone started from scratch with a new lens design, or modified an existing design already in inventory, the R&D costs would be hard to justify, especially when the easy solution is to design and manufacture an adaptor.
the e-mount system is far too new, and the market segment far too small for anything like that to happen in the foreseeable future, I would think.
Looking back a bunch of years, it took a long time before other manufacturers ( like Sigma, etc.) tackled the task with the like of Nikon, Canon, Pentax etc. which had a significantly larger market base at that time than the Nex has now.
Of course you can already adapt many lenses to the nex, with the loss of any control in camera. You can find cheaper zooms, they will work, but as I've said over and over again...you get what you pay for.
The 18-200 isn't cheap, but currently and for the foreseeable future, it's the best option you have for a decent zoom for the Nex. It gives you what you're after without any additional bits and pieces, and you have to pay for that....
Personally, I'd just bite the bullet, buy the lens you want and take pictures. if and when something better comes along....that's where EBay is your friend...
Regardless of whether someone started from scratch with a new lens design, or modified an existing design already in inventory, the R&D costs would be hard to justify, especially when the easy solution is to design and manufacture an adaptor.
the e-mount system is far too new, and the market segment far too small for anything like that to happen in the foreseeable future, I would think.
Looking back a bunch of years, it took a long time before other manufacturers ( like Sigma, etc.) tackled the task with the like of Nikon, Canon, Pentax etc. which had a significantly larger market base at that time than the Nex has now.
Of course you can already adapt many lenses to the nex, with the loss of any control in camera. You can find cheaper zooms, they will work, but as I've said over and over again...you get what you pay for.
The 18-200 isn't cheap, but currently and for the foreseeable future, it's the best option you have for a decent zoom for the Nex. It gives you what you're after without any additional bits and pieces, and you have to pay for that....
Personally, I'd just bite the bullet, buy the lens you want and take pictures. if and when something better comes along....that's where EBay is your friend...
headofdestiny
Veteran Member
I think it will happen in the next few years. At Photokina, Sony was sure to make the point that they would share mount specs with other manufacturers.
Kiril Karaatanasov
Senior Member
Very likely IMHO.
Traditional market base as in dslr simply does not matter. Nex, m43 and nx sell in such quantities that probably 6 month sales eclipse by wide margin the combined sales fo film SLRs for 3 years.
We are talking mass market today. Prices of nex and m43 already compete with compacts like travel zooms.
So 3rd parties either need to hop on the train or will soon be marginal manufacturers of professional optics for limited dslr market.
Traditional market base as in dslr simply does not matter. Nex, m43 and nx sell in such quantities that probably 6 month sales eclipse by wide margin the combined sales fo film SLRs for 3 years.
We are talking mass market today. Prices of nex and m43 already compete with compacts like travel zooms.
So 3rd parties either need to hop on the train or will soon be marginal manufacturers of professional optics for limited dslr market.
Just like Sigma and Tamron do now for Sony, Pentax, Nikon and Canon, they will someday make CDAF lenses for multiple mounts.
The question is how large will they go. If Nikon does use a smaller than m43rds sensor, then an APS sized lens would make little sense. Sigma and Tamron may go with a smaller m43rds sized lens for just the 2 smaller mounts...or make the larger APS sized lens for the 2 bigger mounts (and leave Nikon out).
What ever happens, they will want the largest user base possible.
The question is how large will they go. If Nikon does use a smaller than m43rds sensor, then an APS sized lens would make little sense. Sigma and Tamron may go with a smaller m43rds sized lens for just the 2 smaller mounts...or make the larger APS sized lens for the 2 bigger mounts (and leave Nikon out).
What ever happens, they will want the largest user base possible.
Kiril Karaatanasov
Senior Member
Why would they? smaller then m43 does not require interchangeable lens. You cannot get shallow DOF. There are excellent compact 5x zooms for smaller then m43 sensors.
Minolta A200 comes to mind as exemplary compact with slightly smaller then m43 sensor. (Nikon had some not so successful attempts too in that segment)
S95 of HX5 would be modern examples of the same.
GodSpeaks
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Sony has released the specs for the E mount in an effort to spur development of additional E mount lenses.
So I think it very possible we will see lenses from Sigma or Tokina or Tamron in the future, maybe even Cosina. But how long before anything appears, it's impossible to tell.
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So I think it very possible we will see lenses from Sigma or Tokina or Tamron in the future, maybe even Cosina. But how long before anything appears, it's impossible to tell.
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Just Having Fun
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I think that Micro Four Thirds 25mm F/.95 lens has a shallower DoF than any current NEX lens. You also get a longer reach with a smaller sensor.
Also, from the President of Nikon:
The Nikon forum has been buzzing about this for months. There are some possible photos of the new Nikon mirorless camera floating around too.
Although manual operation, an adapted 35mm (about same field of view as 25mm on m43) f1.4 on NEX gives DOF 4.49m-5.64 for an object situated at 5 meters, which is about the same as the 4.47m-5.68m DOF you get with that 25mm F/.95 on m43.
But I agree that for long tele it makes much more sense to use m43 than NEX since the lens will be smaller. May not be true if you need low-light though, since the current NEX sensor is so much better. Dynamic range is also a consideration. I would think that eventually m43 is going to have better sensors so it may catchup depending if by that point NEX sensor has also improved.
focuspulling
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Makes no sense.
Kiril Karaatanasov
Senior Member
Well in all honesty I have not seen any wildlife photographers or sports photographers rave about m43 or even 43 for that matter.
AFAIK there is only couple decent tele lenses for 43rds and they costs a fortune. Multiple arguments come to mind why tele-shotting is inappropriate with smaller sensor.
ILC AF is very far from adequate for tele applications
ILCs are small and any decent 200mm+ lens is very big (including the 43rds options). No point to save on camera size.
Tele shooting often needs high iso and high DR both suffer significantly on smaller sensors
Size savings beyond 100mm are insignificant
As odd as it seems the only good wildlife camera Sony has is the A900 with its humongous 35mm sensor
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