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Just came across this useful info...

Full list of cameras by Sony for CES 2011:

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Cybershot DSC-W510: 12MP, 2.7 in. screen, sweep panorama function

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Cybershot DSC-W530: upgrades to a 14MP sensor

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Cybershot DSC-W560: adds SteadyShot and 720p HD video

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Cybershot DSC-W570: adds 16MP, 5x zoom (25mm on the wide side)

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Cybershot DSC-WX9: high end model, 16MP Exmor R CMOS, 3 in. LCD, 1080i video, 3D, 10fps, background defocus feature, HDMI

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Cybershot DSC-WX10: top of the line, f/2.4 lens, manual WB, very high speed AF

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Cybershot DSC-H70: 16MP CCD sensor, 3 in. LCD, 720p HD video, sweep panorama

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Cybershot DSC-HX7: 16MP Exmor R CMOS sensor, 3 in. LCD, 1080i video 3D, HDR, 10 fps

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Cybershot DSC-T110, DSC-TX10 – very small point and shoot camera, no other details available

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MrClick said:
Cybershot DSC-H70: 16MP CCD sensor, 3 in. LCD, 720p HD video, sweep panorama
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I assume this would be the succesor to the H55.
MrClick said:
Cybershot DSC-HX7: 16MP Exmor R CMOS sensor, 3 in. LCD, 1080i video 3D, HDR, 10 fps
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And this would be the succesor for HX5.

The HX1 is from march 2009, so it should be about time for a HX2. I wonder if they ended the line of superzooms. Would be a shame, since I always found it to be very good versatile cameras.
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Jens looking at the past history of the Superzoom series, we had a new model every year .... no new model in 2010 ........ i think my earlyer thoughs are becoming true.

end of the Superzoom models as Sony seems to have decided to take a different road.

my guess the market figures have said there is more interest in the small pocket camera's like the HX5 ect..

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I'm affraid that you are right

I've never seen any sales figures, but I just always thought that the superzooms was very popular, and the other brands seems to continue producing superzooms.

It's definately the line of cameras that I have recommended the most times. Just in my close family there are H2, H5, H9 and 3 x HX1. And on top of that I've recommended them many many times on different forums etc.

And now my niece is thinking about upgrading her W-series, because she would like more zoom. Actually she wants to keep her W-series, for everyday shooting, to have a small camera, but then also have a camera with better zoom. So it would be obvious to recommend a HX1. The 10x zoom H-series is not really interesting in this regard, since it dosn't have to be pocketable. She has a W-series to put in the pocket. And on the other hand a NEX with the 18-200 is much more expensive, and would be overkill for her needs.

So I'll probably recommend her to get a HX1, if they are still avaiable when she's going to get it.

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  1. Pixel density
  2. NR and loss of detail
both results of more MP's in tiny sensors, Sony was clever in keeping the MP's down for a while.

NOW 16 MP hmmmmmmmmmm what pixel density would that give more then 50,

how on earth are they going to compensate that in a jpeg engine.
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Marti58 said:
  1. Pixel density
  2. NR and loss of detail
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You bet. I'm essentially appalled at what I've seen from the new 14-megapixel Exmor R sensor.
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both results of more MP's in tiny sensors, Sony was clever in keeping the MP's down for a while.
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I recently, finally, picked up an HX1 a week or so ago. I expected a 14-megapixel replacement, which I wouldn't be interested in at all.
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NOW 16 MP hmmmmmmmmmm what pixel density would that give more then 50, how on earth are they going to compensate that in a jpeg engine.
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With utterly ASTONISHING amounts of noise-reduction processing, which should wipe out the utter pittance of detail that the current 14-megapixel sensors can manage.

All in all, I think the general state of 14-megapixel sensors of this size has been absolutely awful. 12-megapixel sensors were bad enough -- the 14-megapixel sensors are awful. Now comes 16-megapixels for the ignorant masses, and the manufacturers have finally, completely tossed any sense of "image quaity" out the window.

I suppose you can get one of the larger-sensor, 10-megapixel cameras from other companies who provide that alternative for enthusiasts, but I don't expect we'll see anything like that from Sony. I suppose the NEX series is their alternative, and I suppose there's nothing wrong with that. Except for how they don't really have a "pocketable" version.

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Interesting to note the HX1 does not support SD cards and other companies have 24x or 30 or 35x zoom superzooms but not Sony. I'm happy with my HX1 though. Sonyalpharumors claimed a replacement for the HX1 was coming but based on this thread's info there's not one coming.
 
Looks like the Cybershot DSC-HX7 model number was posted twice-there can't be 2 models called the HX7.

Sony Thailand already put up page for the W530:
http://www.sony.co.th/product/dsc-w530?site=hp_en_TH_i

Suprised to see the WX10 will have a f2.4 lens-Sony should of had it with a f2 lens instead (similar to older models like the 2001 S75).
 
I just want to stir the hornets nest here.

When are we going to quit whining about the MP race? It has been going on for years. The new high MP cameras take better pictures than their low MP predecessors. Simply print a picture and see for yourself. We need to quit zooming to 100% for pixel peeping! The engineers know this. The marketeers know this and the public is oblivious to the discussion. For better IQ, just buy a larger sensor, larger lens, larger body, heavier camera and forget the MP/sq-cm numbers . A fair number of DPR threads by knowledgeable folks have been saying this for years. In good lighting, the high MP camera beats the low MP camera. In poor lighting, it is probably a wash. Who would buy a low MP camera in 2011?
So "sock it to me" (within DPR bounds of course)
Bert
 
Well, I think pixel density is an important enough issue and it seems so does, at least some folks at, DPReview.

They started providing pixel density numbers on the camera database more than a year ago.

As for viewing them on a monitor... I'm not sure what 1080p represents. But a 1280x1024 computer display yields only about 1.3 MP. That's a lot of data lost from 14 to 16 MP. I can easily agree that 14 and 16 MP images would look about the same.

If you look at the output of a Sony R1 (3.2MP/cm²) and compare them against the output of an HX1 (33MP/cm²) you can't help but agree that something gives the R1 a definite edge. And thats comparing on the same monitor.

Dave
 
the same amount of MP's is giving better results on a bigger sensor, should not be a surprise it works the other way around as well.

if it wouldn't matter, then why are the results of the NEX LX3/LX5 are so much better, check the pixel density numbers.

the law of physics will apply.

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Personally, I'd be ready for a replacement of my TX1, and am in love with the small form factor of the TX series (and T series, for that matter). However, my biggest hope is for a replacement of the TX5 with a new gen model - waterproof/shockproof, super-small, and maybe with some improvements (better jpeg engines lately might potentially improve the output, and the very small hope that Sony might see fit to restore the TX1's superior infolithium battery rather than the TX5's non-info version, as well as the even-smaller hope that Sony might see fit to restore Picture Settings to set user levels of contrast, saturation, and sharpness.

Maybe that's what the TX10 will be...but it also could be a followup to the TX1, which wouldn't be waterproof...that'd be a shame for me. I want a TX1 with the TX5's waterproof shell and Sony's latest work on JPEG engines which shows a huge improvement in their large-sensor line.

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Marti58 said:
the same amount of MP's is giving better results on a bigger sensor, should not be a surprise it works the other way around as well.

if it wouldn't matter, then why are the results of the NEX LX3/LX5 are so much better, check the pixel density numbers.

the law of physics will apply.
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Larger sensor=better IQ (more light gathered). At least this is what I gleaned from the threads I originally mentioned.
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Bert
 
Marti58 said:
so you say we dont see it ? enough prove is around tiny sensors more MP's lost image quality.
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Only when examining at 100% pixel peeping. Typically when viewed on 2.4MP monitor, 6MP, 10MP, 14MP, 16MP, 24MP all look alike. If printed large (16x20) the High MP look better (or no worse if shot in really poor light)
Bert
 
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