Billx08
Forum Pro
First, you're way off base suggesting that Kim or anyone else should avoid threads started by those sharing a contentious history. By that rule, S.O.'s previous enemies (Lloydy, Slides, Paul and others) wouldn't be permitted in her current threads. S.O. (IIRC) like others has said that she wouldn't reply to certain people. If she did that there would be no problem, and as Kim pointed out below, his reply didn't criticize S.O. Instead it praised her. If she takes offense at that, yes there's a problem. Can you see that?Bill,But I guess that it was more about criticizing Kim than saying anything pertinent or useful. Now, will you show some restraint, or will you continue to stir the pot.
You need to up the anti in common sense. We all know that Silent and Kim have savage history between them....that's a fact.
So, for Kim to even come into a thread by Silent was a big no-no and threading on thin ice. His mere presence was going to stir the pot straight off the bat. Can't you even see that?
No, S.O. isn't entirely to blame. There are several others that aid and abet her. Can you guess who they are? I don't think that you'd have to exercise your loaf very much to know who I'm referring to. Unlike Kim, S.O. Lloydy, you and myself, they don't seem to ever contribute much other than leaping in to insult and attack. Another thing you seem to have missed is that while some exchanges depart from perfect etiquette, most of the "criticism" from one side is technical in nature, pointing out blown highlights, missed focus, etc. The criticism from the other side usually consists of mild insults at best, quite juvenile, but occasionally flaring up to 11 on the meter. An example of the former is a recent thread started by Lloydy showing (once again) that a Fuji P&S produced better results than a very good Nikon DSLR using an expensive lens. His images appeared to support this, but upon looking closely, I noticed that the DSLR image wasn't focused properly. Lloydy didn't acknowledge this and at this point I think that the thread was over for all practical purposes, but to his credit, he didn't reply as others on his side so often do, with insults and attacks intentionally trying to create trouble. ('Ooh, moderators, have you seen what someone is writing about you on their blog? Look at this, and this and this.') Unless you can see that things like this represent more serious problems, I'll think that your criticisms aren't, as Rupert's minions say, fair and balanced.So to criticize her images (weather he was correct or not) was obviously going to add fuel to the fire and be a big pot stirrer. To pin all the blame on Silent is totally unfair. Sometimes you have to use your loaf a little.
No. She should have shown what a true oracle would divine and divulge, silence!On this occasion, I don't think Kim did and what he got was sticking out a mile. Actually, it was quite mellow. So what did your honestly expect from Silent in reply to Kim's post giving their history...... a kiss on the cheek?
We all know too well (or we should) that the HS10 can't compare with DSLRs for detail even though other Fujis can, such as the S100fs. But with the HS10's limitations it's always good to avoid using it less than optimally. Don't forget that any reply to S.O. or to anyone else isn't really a reply to just that person. The reply can be seen by anyone, and if they care about improving their own photography, and if the reply contains useful information, the forum isn't better served by putting people on a "Do Not Reply" list. How many dozens or hundreds of times have people here (most often from the same side) suggested using the [Ignore] button? I'd say that the ones complaining the loudest aren't following their own advice.As for asking for her to show restraint....in fairness, I think she did, considering the savage history that's involved. Bottom line.....I think she gave Kim a good answer to his critique. If he is expecting savage detail, he may have to look in the DSLR forum and maybe not expect it on a cheapie bridge cam. Actually to be fair, she even put me in my box with that one too.
Now for some useful criticism, dump that LX5 for a Fuji and get a real camera. <g>